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| Feb. 5, 2014 mnball 29 posts | Reebok Barrage update Alan, Have you had a chance to swing any of these new second batch bats yet ? When you do please post your findings. |
| Feb. 5, 2014 Pull My Finger 81 posts | What are the serial numbers of the second batch? How can I identify the difference between the first and second batch? |
| Feb. 5, 2014 ? 121 posts | Tri18 What is the assurance that you were delivered second batch Reebok Barrage Senior bats? |
| Feb. 5, 2014 softballnuts 81 posts | I bought a 27oz Reebok Barrage Senior bat and I like it. Since I bought it last year, I can only assume that it is a first batch model bat. I want to buy a second batch bat but I WANT TO BE SURE I'm getting what I'm paying for. Words and promises just don't make me feel very comfortable with a purchase at this time. There must be some proof of the batch the bat was manufactured. How can the customer really know what they are getting? I am not asking for proof in writing, but that would be nice. TRUST, BUT VERIFY!!! |
| Feb. 5, 2014 garyheifner 649 posts | QUESTION: Since the 2nd batch is a changed formula, it is a different bat. Does that mean it has to be retested and approved by SSUSA and added to the 2014 list of approved bats????? If it does, it must have some type of code or serial number in order to test legality. If the 2nd batch is declared illegal, the TDs need to be able to identify them at tournaments. |
| Feb. 6, 2014 Az Iz 66 posts | Tri18 By reading your responses on this thread I can only come to one conclusion. That conclusion is that since you can't tell the difference between first and second batch bats, you can't be 100% sure those are second batch bats in your inventory. |
| Feb. 6, 2014 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Allen, looks like everyone wants you to go test it... What ever the story is.. I like to see the bats that are new on the market get a couple of hundred swings on them.. if they last 200 swings It would perk up my interest if it performs.. |
| Feb. 7, 2014 0 70 posts | How many and what "Tweaks" can a bat have before it's considered an altered or changed bat? |
| Feb. 7, 2014 cyborg45 Men's 75 194 posts | Since this is a changed formula, my concern is the new batch would not be as hot as the first batch. The first batch 2 piece Miken, which I have unfortunately, has taken forever to break in. The newer batch is much hotter out of the wrapper. Sometimes when the tweaking takes place from one batch to another, there can be good and not so good results. I will be interested to see what the players who have hit both batches of Reeboks have to say. |
| Feb. 7, 2014 garyheifner 649 posts | cyborg45 I was not aware of the 1st and 2nd batch of the 2 piece. I didn't like my 1st one (end load) and some time later I bought another (end load) and really like it. Should I buy another, is there a way to tell if I am getting the 1st or 2nd batch model before I take the wrapper off. |
| Feb. 8, 2014 Lefty Men's 75 721 posts | I'm glad I swing a 28oz. Don't have to worry about a first or secont batch. |
| Feb. 8, 2014 Clean Up 68 posts | Is anybody else out there that selling 2nd batch reebok barrage bats? |
| Feb. 8, 2014 cyborg45 Men's 75 194 posts | Gary, The only way I would guess to know the difference would be in the time frame of purchase. I purchased mine in June of last summer. I would guess that anything purchased later in the year, December or so, would be the new formula, according to posts on this board. If you noticed a difference between your first purchase and the second, then you probably have the new and improved batch. Once Miken gets the process down, they will probably stick with it. |
| Feb. 9, 2014 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | The Barrage is an excellent bat in my opinion. I have been swinging one since October. I have them in stock and would be happy to assist you with either Barrage or Melee. Will be in Puerto Rico for next 10 days then in Bullhead City, then Phoenix. Ed Andrews Andrews Companies ea@andrewsdev.com (970) 729-3145 |
| Feb. 9, 2014 Clean Up 68 posts | surf88 Are you selling the 2nd batch reebok barrage senior bats? How can you tell the difference? I don't want a 1st batch bat. |
| Feb. 11, 2014 Snot Nose Kid 67 posts | I am getting confused..... Dave at Senior Softball Bat Reviews in early January was told he would get a money refund for his broken Senior Barrage. Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG9gdZGj1MU So is Reebok giving money refunds on broken bats or sending 2nd batch bats as replacement bats? Why would the 26 and 27oz. bats be more prone to break than the 28oz. and up bats? |
| Feb. 12, 2014 Clean Up 68 posts | Now that your testing the Reebok Barrage 2nd batch bat. I would like to know the approximate number of hits the bat had before it showed the first crack. |
| Feb. 12, 2014 PeteC Men's 60 5 posts | Alan, How many hits do you have on you current Ambush? Is it still your first Ambush? If not, how many hits did you have on any previous Ambush bats? Pete |
| Feb. 12, 2014 Bubble Gum 122 posts | Tri18 What is the (Most overall sales) most popular bat weight? 28oz? |
| Feb. 12, 2014 hemi racer Men's 65 237 posts | My first Ambush(26oz.EL) had at least 230+ hits on it when a small crack developed. I could have cried, that was one hot bat. Come to think about it I did cry. Went to a 27oz. EL which seems to be the most popular here in S.C. for senior players. |
| Feb. 12, 2014 garyheifner 649 posts | Even though my posts may not always reflect it, I am a pretty smart IQ guy. Looks to me as though you bat guys are NOT going to sell a lot of new bats until the 2nd batch versions have some kind markings to indicate 2nd batch. What is the old phrase, Let the Buyer Beware. I am not challenging the integrity of the posters on this topic, but it looks as though you might not know what the facdtory is actually shipping you??????? You guys might want to drop a hint to the bat companies. |
| Feb. 14, 2014 Softballer48 Men's 65 30 posts | Alan: First let me say THANK YOU for all your time on the phone discussing bats. The Reissued Barrage you sent me is performing OUTSTANDING; at my age (66) it took close to 75 cuts and then it opened right up. It's hitting just as far as my Melee without a mark on it; and you were correct also in the fact that swinging the Barrage compared to an end-load Melee is not much of adjustment. Again THANKS for your time............Mike |
| Feb. 14, 2014 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | Gentlemen, I'm surfing for a few days more. Reebok is not going to change their systems with regard to batch itemization. There were SOME broken bats. Not that many. They made the adjustments. Very fe of my guys had problems but Reebok made good on them. Heif, I am selling a lot of new bats because people know they are good bats and if they get a blemished bat, they are made whole for the most part. I'm one of the guys who bought up Barrage's and Melee's so let me know if I can be of help to you. I return to the mainland on the 21st. Ed Andrews (970) 729-3145 ea@andrewsdev.com |
| Feb. 15, 2014 Clean Up 68 posts | So how's the Reebok Barrage Senior bat test progressing? Have you cracked it yet? Update please! |
| Feb. 16, 2014 AZTOMC Men's 55 139 posts | I bought a 27oz Barrage a couple of weeks ago. Put less than 100 swings on it and it broke on my first swing of a tournament yesterday. Can I get my bat replaced? |
| Feb. 17, 2014 Lefty Men's 75 721 posts | Hopefully that was one of the firsr batch. My 28oz. arrives this Wed. Good luck on getting another one. |
| Feb. 17, 2014 Home Plate 35 posts | Tri18 Does Combat, Miken and other bat companies have a way of identifying which batch their bats are made from? Serial numbers or something? How do Reebok engineers know which batch their bats are made? |
| Feb. 18, 2014 0 70 posts | After reading all the above posts. I think I will order a Reebok Melee Legend Senior bat. It has a history. That way I know what I'm getting is what I'm paying for! |
| Feb. 18, 2014 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | 0, why not go to Ebay and buy last years model? Cheaper and proven! IMO wait for all others to Guinea pig the bats! |
| Feb. 18, 2014 0 70 posts | Swing Your right! It would be hard to convince me that the Barrage is that much better than the Melee Legend. I realize the Barrage is 2 piece and the Legend is not. But is there is any real advantage of the Barrage over the Melee Legend? IF SO, WHAT IS IT? |
| Feb. 18, 2014 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | 0, the only two piece bat I ever swung that I felt flexed more than a one piece bat was the Connection.. other than that, I never felt the flex of a two piece bat. IMO, that being said, I bet there is little to no difference between Melee and the Barrage.. |
| Feb. 19, 2014 Lefty Men's 75 721 posts | Went hit with my 28oz. Barrage. I had 47 swings in and I believe this one will take at lease 100 or more to break in well. My hit with his 29oz. Sounded different than and came off the bat a little faster. 47 bps on my 28oz. Is not enough for me to judge. Every thing Dave V. Said about the legit is correct from the 30oz. I've been hitting. |
| Feb. 19, 2014 cyborg45 Men's 75 194 posts | This is what concerns me about a 2nd batch fix. The original Barrage, by many accounts was pretty hot out of the wrapper. It looks to me as if the 2nd batch is not as hot. Sometimes they stay that way. Only time will tell. When Miken tried to improve the durability of the red end load, it was a disaster. No amount of batting practice could fix it. I'll take performance everytime. |
| Feb. 20, 2014 Clean Up 68 posts | How about an progress update on the testing of the 2nd batch Reebok Barrage bat....The suspense is killing me! |
| Feb. 22, 2014 Lefty Men's 75 721 posts | Alan I have a 28oz. Barrage. How would you compare the Barrage to the balance Melee. How many swings would you think a avg. Size guy 65 would take to break it in. I have around 50 and plan on putting 50 more today. Starting to web a little. |
| Feb. 22, 2014 Lefty Men's 75 721 posts | I've got around 80 swings on the barrage and she is game ready. Flys out the infield fast and distance wise hits as well any other senior bat that I have. Don't know if she's broken in all the way yeath but she's game ready. |
| Feb. 23, 2014 softballnuts 81 posts | Lefty As far as I know the Reebok Barrage will not web up like the Melee Legend. Just hope it's webbing and not cracking. |
| Feb. 24, 2014 Lefty Men's 75 721 posts | Mine has a little webbing and hits great line drives and long balls. |
| Feb. 24, 2014 Softballer48 Men's 65 30 posts | Lefty: I have a 26oz 2nd Run Barrage I bought from Alan; and it openned-up at around 80 hits with very little noticable webbing. At about 100 hits it was as good if not better than my Melee. Would I buy another Barrage.....You bet I would!!!! Mike |
| Feb. 24, 2014 cyborg45 Men's 75 194 posts | Lefty and others who have hit both the Barrage and Legit. Which has more pop? |
| Feb. 24, 2014 injun 2 posts | Alan, I've been swinging a 28oz. end loaded Ambush the last couple of seasons and was wondering how the end load on the 28oz. Barrage compares to it? |
| Feb. 24, 2014 Adiktiv6 Men's 60 90 posts | Took swings this weekend(baseball field 354ft in the power alley). One of my hitting partners, (won't tell you his name but he goes by Dave Sumpter) brings out his brand new, zero swings on it....., 27oz Barrage (2nd run)! Right from the start he's killing it, hits about 5 right at the fence! BIG Smile on his face, lovin the bat.....right at 20 swings, (17 swings I think) he hits a nice shot but the bat sounds different.....why? Because that worthless (in my opinion) is now CRACKED! $200.00 bat for 20 swings = 10 bucks a swing....not worth it to me!! No webbing, just a couple of nice cracks....maybe he got sent a bad one...it happens! But, buyers be aware!! Then again, I was swinging a 28oz Barrage and it held up just fine....But, DAVE is a BEAST! A dik |
| Feb. 24, 2014 Adiktiv6 Men's 60 90 posts | The balls we used were ISA and ISSA Tattoo...44/375....24 old & 24 new Also, had another guy, Jimmy Z, crack his new out of the wrapper DeMarini ONE after about 50 swings! Just a good day to crack bats, I suppose! A dik |
| Feb. 24, 2014 Mario Men's 50 451 posts | Adiktiv, just crious, what was the temperature where you guys were hitting? |
| Feb. 24, 2014 Lefty Men's 75 721 posts | I bought a 30oz legit for daves video said it swong light. 30oz swings great for me. What I like about the legit is you can miss it and goes about 30 feet further. The legit breats end super fast compared to other senior bats. The 28oz barrage and the legit to me are two great bats. Feels like they are solid bats. I get jammed alot so the legit with the 14 1/2 inch barrel works for me. |
| Feb. 24, 2014 Adiktiv6 Men's 60 90 posts | Mario, it was in the 70s 70-72 degrees....great day to swing! |
| Feb. 24, 2014 softballnuts 81 posts | I have both the Reebok Melee Balanced and the Reebok Barrage first batch in the 27 ounce versions. From what I can tell, as far as distance both bats perform pretty much the same, no substantial difference. As far as feel the Barrage seems to swing slightly heavier. Also the Barrage seems to flex a little bit more. The durability of the bats at this time would probably be in favor of the Melee over the Barrage first batch. READ THE ABOVE POSTS. Second batch, who knows? I will need to put more hits on each bat to get a more accurate conclusion. |
| Feb. 25, 2014 Pull My Finger 81 posts | TO ALL Will somebody PLEASE POST when the 4th or 5th batch of Reebok Barrage Senior bats are on the market......By then all the problems should be fixed. Thanks |
| Feb. 26, 2014 Clean Up 68 posts | It seems the 2nd Batch Reebok Barrage test and results has gone about as silent as GSC bat company. |
| Feb. 26, 2014 HJ Men's 70 481 posts | Perhaps Alan has helped create his own problems. Both Alan and MM in prior posts have made it clear what the correct way is to break in a bat. If memory is correct, it involves 75 swings starting at 50% for 25, then 75% for 25 swings, etc. Perhaps is this regimen had been followed, the Barrage would have lasted more than 17 swings, perhaps not, but what is the message? |
| Feb. 26, 2014 Adiktiv6 Men's 60 90 posts | HJ, I lean towards the "perhaps not" ! As a heads-up here.....you don't have to accept the "gift card" Reebok will send you for a cracked bat return. Dave called and talked to one of the upper management fellas at Reebok and got a check for the cost of the Barrage. So, unless you want a new pair of shoes or some nice t-shirts (can't ever have enough of those, can we!) I suggest you make sure you talk to the right guy to get your hard earned money back ! Just a thought, tho. A dik |
| Feb. 26, 2014 PJ3P Men's 50 94 posts | Clean Up, as is often the case the last Barrage that was being tested was purchased by someone who wanted a bat that was game ready. Team 1 Sports will be playing for the 5th time this year on Saturday and we have been spending a lot of time hitting with our Mikens. Pat Team 1 Sports |
| Feb. 27, 2014 Adiktiv6 Men's 60 90 posts | PJ3P, you're kidding, right? all senior softball bats are "game ready" right out of the wrapper! it's the person or his swing that's not "game ready" ! I can't see why any senior softball player would have to pay or have someone else "break in" his SENIOR bat.....just plan re-dik-uless! Let me help you guys out on the Barrage bats....26oz, 27oz, piece of crappppp! 28oz holds up and has AWESOME pop (right out of the wrapper, no break in needed) So, for all you fellas who think 1 or 2oz is that big of a deal when swinging the bat, I suggest you 1. Pump some Iron! 2. Do bat speed drills!! 3. Keep you eye on the ball!!! MASS (heavier weighted bat) + SPEED (bat speed drills) = a harder and/or further hit ball!! I learned that watching "The Big Bang Theory"!! A dik |
| Feb. 27, 2014 curtiss Men's 50 32 posts | I got my Barrage this past Sat. went to try it out on Sunday Beautiful day 70 degrees and sun shining in California. I was hitting 44/375 balls and hitting my other bats first to get warmed up I swing 30oz DeMarini Stadiums that I hit very well. Alan suggested that I purchase a 29oz Barrage said it had more of an end load feel to it than the 30oz. I agree with the feel it does feel a bit more end loaded but possibly the flex of the handle has a bit more to do with it. I hit two balls with it and went to hit a third and I could hear a distinct rattle in the barrel like something inside the bat broke loose a piece of glue from the end cap maybe???? I reported the rattle to Alan and he responded it’s usually the case with one that flexes early. I responded with a question to him about what does flex have to do with a rattle and should I be worried about the durability of the bat? He replied that is your blessing. So I was wondering if anyone on this thread has had this happen to their bat and if it is defective is there a way to get it replaced or a refund? BTW hottest bat I have ever hit was hitting at a Baseball field 325+ fences and cleared the fence with ease several times! Also I agree with you A dik more mass through the hitting zone with speed equals harder hit balls sorry I didn’t learn it from the big bang theory I learned it from watching old clips of Babe Ruth I think he used to hit with a 54oz bat. Curtiss |
| Feb. 28, 2014 Full Monty 88 posts | Adiktiv6 Tell us about the bat speed drills you do? |
| Feb. 28, 2014 hemi racer Men's 65 237 posts | YES!, bat speed drills, That would be great and I'm all ears. |
| Feb. 28, 2014 BruceinGa Men's 70 3233 posts | Paco, are you talking about MM weighted bat drills? Here is a link: http://www.bigcat844.com/increasing_bat_speed.html |
| Feb. 28, 2014 hemi racer Men's 65 237 posts | Big Mike clued me in on his drill couple of years ago, which I use to this day, when I purchased some bats from him. Thought there might be other drills out there. |
| Feb. 28, 2014 ? 121 posts | Adiktiv6 What weight bat do you use? |
| Feb. 28, 2014 HJ Men's 70 481 posts | Adi, cut and paste the above link into your browser and your questions are answered. Spoiler alert: use 3 bats, your regular bat, 1 8 ounces heavier and 1 8 ounces lighter- no tee just air swings |
| March 1, 2014 curtiss Men's 50 32 posts | Any more Reebok Barrage updates whoe is hitting them what weights and do you like them? |
| March 1, 2014 Adiktiv6 Men's 60 90 posts | To The (?) Question : I use 30oz when swinging any Combat (all thou, I did swing a 28oz White Centarian (sp) in Vegas and I can say that this was (cracked both of the two I had) the HOTTEST Senior bat I've have the pleasure of swinging, so far!! Mikens and Reeboks 29oz works best for me!! As for the bat speed drills I use: Yes, the BigCat's drill is awesome.....just a few tweaks here and there (for me)! I warm up with taking slow swings with a sledge hammer to loosen up, then use Mike's program but use a heavier bat on the heavy swings and a lighter bat for the light swings! After that, and because I have some land I can hit on, I've marked off 300, 320, and 350ft. I have a tee set up and a target to aim for. I then I hit the ball off the tee towards the target keeping the same swing for the same direction every time! I do this to keep my power swing consistent! Other than that, I just keep my eye on the ball, swing at my pitch in my hitting zone and swing HARD every time! A dik |
| March 5, 2014 Clean Up 68 posts | STILL WAITING FOR THAT 2ND BATCH REEBOK BARRAGE BAT REVIEW........ |
| March 5, 2014 curtiss Men's 50 32 posts | Clean Up, Mine hits great just a little rattle Curtiss |
| March 6, 2014 Home Plate 35 posts | Sure, ALL the Barrage bats hit great..... The question is...... HOW MANY GREAT HITS DO YOU GET BEFORE IT BREAKS??? 30? 50? 75? 150? 325? ??? |
| March 6, 2014 Michigan Vet Men's 65 255 posts | Hit with my new 28 oz Barrage today at Woodlawn Hitting Club in St Pete Fl. 65 degrees and over cast. Using Evil batting practice balls. First 25 swings were OK had better pop than most bats out of wrapper. Second time took only 15 swings due to rain, but bat stared loosening up. Last 5 swings, hit fence and took one about 320. Will update next week after some more swings. |
