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Aug. 15, 2011
hayden
Men's 60
21 posts
What would you do
While pitching this weekend I took a shot off the leg just missing the family jewels. I know that is part of the game and itís no problem. My question is what would you do if you hit the pitcher? Do nothing or apologize to the pitcher. I hit one up the middle that hit the pitcher and I went out of my way to apologize.
Aug. 15, 2011
LP
282 posts
almost no one tries to hit the pitcher , but hits up the middle happen. i've had one guy that i know of go up the middle to hurt me took him twice but he knocked me out of the game. but your right thats part of the game it just happens. i my self hit up the middle from time to time i have never hurt anyone, i do say i'm sorry if i hit them, for i didnt mean to. i also dont hit the ball as hard like a lot of players do.
Aug. 15, 2011
Omar Khayyam
994 posts
hayden, I would do what you did. I never intentionally try to hit a pitcher. In fact, I don't very often hit up the middle, but do go to right when the pitch or situation calls for it. The few times I have hit a pitcher have always been due to my poor bat control in that I was trying to go to right. Therefore, I always apologize to the pitcher for my failings. Blaming a pitcher for pitching it "outside and low", as some do, is pitiful.
Aug. 15, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I would see if he is alright, just like I would if a guy runs into a fence, if any fielder gets hit by a bad hop, if a guy running pulls up with an injury, or if someone gets hurt in any number of ways.

But to apologize, for what? Trying to get a hit? That he missed the ball? Seriously, what exactly did you do wrong that you would be sorry for?

Omar, remember that the pitcher also had a "failing". He missed a ball RIGHT at him.
Aug. 15, 2011
Omar Khayyam
994 posts
Gary, you forget that I am such a "power hitter" with my special senior bat, that he had no chance! :=)
Aug. 15, 2011
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2647 posts
I also, at times, hit near the middle. I've never hit at the pitcher, I just try to hit it just out of his reach. If I happen to hit it too close to him I usually give him a "sorry" when I reach first. If he responds, ok. If he doesn't that's ok also.
Gary, the apology is for my lack of bat control, as Omar said.
Aug. 15, 2011
crusher
Men's 70
389 posts
I do not try to hit up the middle. I pitched for 15 yr in young league befor senior ball. There was one pitch if I screwed up my feet just started back to 2nd base, it was about belt high and just outside to a right hand hitter, 50/50 chance it was coming straight back to me. Not the batters fault. That is about the only time I hit the pitcher is that pitch, I always try to hit an open gap which will not be near a pitcher.
Aug. 15, 2011
hayden
Men's 60
21 posts
I don't try to go up the middle but sometimes it does. I know if it should hit the pitcher I will let him know I was sorry it wasn't my intent. I was just wondering if someone hit the pitcher and said nothing was it their intent to hit the pitcher
Aug. 15, 2011
ChiPrimeMarty
Men's 55
65 posts
I have never deliberately tried to hit the ball directly in line with the pitcher because some pitchers are good glove men and the object is to hit the ball where they ain't. However, a lot of my hits are up the middle in the 6-1 or 4-1 hole. The center field gap is an inviting target, especially when the outfielders are spread far apart. One time I loaded up with the intent to split those outfielders and took a cut that would have easily cleared the fence if the trajectory had any elevation. It didn't, and went right between the pitcher's legs just below the jewels before he had a chance to react. It didn't touch him and I apologized as I was on my way to first, but he and his teammates were having none of it. For the next couple innings they shot the middle but did no damage to our pitcher -- me.
Aug. 16, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Still very strange to me. Do you guys apologize to the pitcher if the ball is cleanly caught and you are out? Or do you apologize to your teammates for your "lack of bat control" in that case?

How many of you guys were apologizing for hitting the middle 30 years ago?
Aug. 16, 2011
Robo2
222 posts
I always apologized, no matter what age and I am 59 now. As a pitcher, I can almost tell if a ball is coming back at me. If it is low and away be prepared.
Aug. 16, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
I rarely go up the middle, but when I do I also apologize if it comes close. But, by the same token, does he apologize when he snags one and turns a double play with it?? Haven't seen that yet.
Aug. 16, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Robo, so you were apologizing back when we were using Harwoods and 38-ounce Bombats?

Webbie, that is exactly the point. It is PART of the game.

Does anyone apologize when they hit a bad hop that hits the SS in the head? When you hit a foul ball near a fence and the LF runs into it? When you hit a ball in a gap and two OFs run into each other? In some way the batter "caused" all of those.

I know they are the closest to the plate, but why is the line only drawn with the pitcher?
Aug. 16, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
oooops-I must be wrong-Gary19 actually agreed with me!!!!

Just kidding, Gary.
Aug. 16, 2011
stick8
1282 posts
I agree with gary19. I see no reason to apologize to a pitcher for attempting to get a base hit thru the middle. If a pitcher gives me a dirty look or glares at me for hitting the middle during a tournament game then in my opinion he shouldn't be pitching.
Aug. 16, 2011
ChiPrimeMarty
Men's 55
65 posts
Apologizing to the pitcher may not be "necessary" for the reasons some have stated, but it is a simple sportsmanlike gesture that could help prevent animosity from escalating to where opposing players start going after pitchers intentionally.

Perhaps the best prevention is to have a pitcher who fields his position well and turns shots up the middle into outs and double plays. The flipside of that is when it becomes evident that the pitcher is not a good glove man and shooting the middle is a sure way to get a hit. This has long been part of the game and an important part of team defense.

Even so, there is a difference between going for hits and having total disregard for the safety of the pitcher. It's a mental attitude that crosses the line from taking advantage of a weak link in the defense to intentional intimidation and not caring if someone gets hurt.

As with all things, a little perspective is in order. Winning a softball game should not be a matter of life or death.
Aug. 16, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
CPT ,yep.my take is,if i go middle i will say something to the pitcher regardless if,i hit him,miss him closely or he snags me,it goes like this,sorry pitch wasn't trying to do that,or great play pitch,with a sorry i wasn't trying to do that.to me it is just a sportsman type action,i did it when i was young and got a pitcher,and do it now,just me,thats all.....
Aug. 16, 2011
terryspears
Men's 55
38 posts
I play softball because I enjoy it. It is not how I make a living. I like playing with my friends in the Senior Softball Community, and should I hurt one of them it bothers me, and I would, at the very least, appologize.
Aug. 16, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Batters are certainly free to say whatever they want, but for pitchers to expect an apology or get upset in the absence of one is just absurd.
Aug. 16, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
where in this thread did anyone say that the pitcher expects the apology to be given.it is all what they do, if they happen to hit at a pitcher,nothing else.not one says you must apologize to the pitcher,so why are you trying to twist it to suit your means.we all know if we face you and drill you, we say or do nothing,b/c thats the way you want it......
Aug. 16, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Wow, pup! PMSing?

Not to mention you are NOT depicting what I have been saying at all. I NEVER said to say "nothing". I have always said, including in this thread, to ask if the guy is okay, just as you might if any player gets hurt for any reason.

But an apology, I have never expected one, and am always caught off-guard when I get one. Just not how I learned to play the game.
Aug. 16, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Retaliation, i.e. protecting your pitcher
is fundamental to how the game among men
is played.
From little league to the pros.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I got guys on my team who will send a missile
or two at any pitcher whose team sends them
at us.
Then, it's over.
Just the way the game is played.
And any pitcher knows what's coming
when the other pitcher gets buzzed.

Aug. 16, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
Come on Einstein-that stuff is for professional pitchers protecting their hitters. And, they don't retaliate if a curve ball gets away, just when it is obvious and intentional. It has been rare for me over the years to see guys intentionally go after the pitcher. If it is obviously intentional that's one thing and is subject to an umpire's call by rule. But do you retaliate when it was obviously a poor piece of hitting? You just cannot take that part of the field away from the hitter. We have only 90 degrees to start with. Take away 25 degrees and you have cut your hitting area to a divided 65 degrees.
Aug. 16, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
I'm a pitcher, now and never realized
what it was like till I started.
You buzz the tower.
You get buzzed.
Just the way it goes.
And the key Mark, it works.
Aug. 16, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
I just cannot see the mentality in the AMATEUR senior game of trying to hit a pitcher with this bat/ball combo. Is it EVER really necessary to retaliate at the risk of seriously injuring-or worse-an opposing pitcher? If you hit a person just right, you don't even have to hit it hard to kill a man. We all know the risk and accept it, but to intentionally try? Really??? Could you live with it if you knew in your heart you were retaliating and did injure someone seriously?
Aug. 16, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
How about being men, and not old guy wannabees, and if you feel the need to retaliate going after the perpetrator and not some innocent bystander?

You have a teammate who is going after one of my players and I am going after him, not some innocent teammate of his.

And by the way, hitting the ball up the middle for a basehit is NOT going after the pitcher. It is playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
Aug. 16, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
I referred to INTENTIONALLY trying to hit the pitcher, not hitting up the middle the way the game is played.
Aug. 16, 2011
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
Most hitters work off how the the infield sets up, even with a five man infield you can find a hole to hit in. As for the middle, I only go there to protect my pitcher.
Aug. 16, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Sometimes, guys,
I don't know if we're playing in the same game
given some of the comments.
I believe that some guys would never think of hitting the middle intentionally
but I'd say, these guys don't pitch
or have any friends who do.

It's normal and common.
Don't hit the ball at my guy
and we won't hit it at yours.
It's really quite simple.

You want to protect your pitcher.
Keep the ball off of mine.

When I'm pitching and one of my guys
buzzes their pitcher after one or two balls through the middle on me
I'm grateful and feel protected.
Even more so with hotter equipment.
And they get the message.

And it doesn't matter if it's accidental
or not.



Aug. 16, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Joe, if some guy sucker punches you or one of your friends in a bar are you going after that guy, or instead sucker punch one of his friends who didn't have anything to do with what happened?
Aug. 16, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Whatever works, G.
How you doing?
Still pitching?
Aug. 16, 2011
hayden
Men's 60
21 posts
I don't try to go up the middle but sometimes it does. I know if it should hit the pitcher I will let him know I was sorry it wasn't my intent. I was just wondering if someone hit the pitcher and said nothing was it their intent to hit the pitcher
Aug. 16, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
and/or he doesn't really give a hoot.
Either way, opposing pitcher be ready.
Aug. 16, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
Well I been a pitcher most of my softball days. If someone went middle before these bats today, I'd have no problem. I could react. I was hit more in 1/2 of a season in the composite bat era then I was in the previous 24 years. If I thought someone came at me intentionaly, They'd be eating something other than food.
Aug. 16, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
well i feel if you retaliate,at a pitcher b/c you think someone has hit at you,your a coward.take it up with the batter who hit at you.i feel if you can't/won't do that get off the mound and quit crying,and yes i pitch all the time for the kids,and have no prol with them.

the only time i have been hit has been my own fault,walk into one from a lefty,as when i pitched an semi-inside pitch i broke for first to cover,2 steps later a ball got me in the thigh....oh well.the other was many years(late 80's) ago and shouldn't of been playing,walk up to watch my brother-in-law play and he said to get my stuff cause they were short,i had a few drinks in me and should of knew better,as they stuck me on the mound.got one in the ankle that night.my only 2 instances of getting basically drilled,all others were taken care of........
Aug. 17, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Will I see if he is okay, just like I would if an outfielder runs into a fence? Of course!

Would I apologize? For what? Trying to get a hit and win a game? Don't be silly.
Aug. 17, 2011
Tate22
Men's 55
259 posts
Hitting up the middle to get a hit is entirely different from "buzzing the tower". Until the rules take away the Webbie25's 25 degrees in the middle of the field it's part of the game. I've also yet to hear a pitcher swear off throwing the low, short, outside pitch. Sorry, I'm not pulling that pitch so I can ground out to the shortstop.

Anyone intentionally hitting at the pitcher to retaliate needs to be tossed from a game. Talking smack like "middle's open" is also bush and should immediately be confronted. Umps need to take immediate charge if that starts happening in a game and toss the big mouths advocating a middle war.

Apologies aren't necessary, but an expression of concern to anyone injured or assuring a pitcher that a near miss was not intentional is good sportsmanship.

Finally, voluntarily wearing protective equipment mitigates the risk, end of story. In Southern CA, many of us know a pitcher from one of the Top Gun teams who is done for the year after taking a shot to the gut that resulted in emergency surgery and removal of his spleen. BTW, it was a crappy ball/hot bat situation in Camp Pendleton. Point, the risk is there even with the worst equipment, it's part of the game. Let's accept that, protect ourselves as each sees fit, and quit advocating that trying to get a hit up the middle is wrong.
Aug. 17, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
In Manasas this past weekend, not only was a player thrrown out of the game in the 50 or 55 Major division for chirping & then hitting the ball at the pitchers direction, he was thrown from the tourney. His team was in the winners bracket final & they had no more than needed players to finish the game. They not only forfieted that game, but they next one in the losers bracket as well. His team was finished because of his selfishness.
Aug. 17, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
tate22,pricer yep great idea,if it is on purpose then toss them.....
Aug. 17, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
hey tate what equipment is gonna stop the gut shot,unless the pitcher goes out there with complete catchers gear,is that what you suggest.monday in league our 3b took a 1 hop shot to the chest and was completely ok,oh it was with the 52 ball,even a bad 44 ball will do damage.he just was PO that he missed the ball tho,old guy in a young guys league.
Aug. 17, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
The mistake the guy made Jeff
was "chirping".
Nothing need be said.
Aug. 17, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Safety cannot be made a concern over having
lively bats and balls.

The game can be made safer if in fact
that is really what you want
which is not a given given all the self interest
and miss direction involved of our discussions.

The game always was and needs to be
somewhat dangerous in order to retain
the essential character of the game.
The player always must assume the risk.
Always did before all the lawyers and manufacturing money/lobby got involved.
Aug. 17, 2011
southernson
259 posts
Einstein,
I agree with you...if the other pitcher gets buzzed, well, you better believe I'm gonna be much more alert when you take the mound the next inning....

Truth is, that shot is coming....it's part of the game...

Repetitive purposeful shots? I've not seen a lot of that in Senior Softball, only when I play with the young guys...
Aug. 17, 2011
stick8
1282 posts
Couldn't intent or intentionally be interpreted in different ways? If a batter has 2 strikes I'm pretty sure pitchers have an idea the next ball may be coming thru the middle or a tleast they should. One can make a good case that batter is intentionally hitting the middle. It's the desired outcome that's in question. If the "intent" is to get the ball thru the infield for a hit then that's part of the game. If the "intent" is to drill the pitcher on his body that's not part of the game.
Aug. 17, 2011
Tate22
Men's 55
259 posts
@ Stick8 - I think there is a definite distinction between hitting the middle and taking a shot at a pitcher. Your example in no way should be considered intent to harm and is part of the game. I've been in the infield and outfield when you've sent some missles up the middle. (in your case I prefer outfield, they've slowed down a bit by them lol) Never for a second did I think you were hitting at our pitcher.

I don't think many in our game would hit a shot at a pitcher to do harm. For one thing, he has a glove just ready to record an F-1 in the book. I do think, however, that there are tell tale signs if someone is going after a pitcher, usually big mouth bluster. If an ump hears that, he should step in and take action. If not tossing the jerk(s), maybe issuing a warning to both benches like in MLB. If the ump thinks things have escalated that far, then action is required. At that point, you would know that a shot up the middle is an out and an ejection.

@Mad Dog - there are some lightweight umpire chest protectors that would work. For me, a mask and shin guards are enough for now.
Aug. 17, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
southernson-I haven't seen it in senior ball either.
Stick8-thank you-you said it better than I did when I tried earlier. Intentionally hitting a pitcher-never.
Aug. 17, 2011
stick8
1282 posts
Tate22 I don't hit the ball that hard do I? lol I have to rely on a punch and judy placement rather than power. I'm curious, where did we play aginst each other? What team were you with? Since I've played senior softball I have yet to witness a player deliberately trying to drill a ball at a pitcher trying to hit his body. I hope I never do.
Aug. 18, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
tate22,ok....i have a worth pitching helmet and a pair of hockey shin guards(knee to ankle coverage) i bought a couple years back now,and still haven't used them(hardly pitch in senior ball,just against the kids),yeah i know i'm taking a chance,just can't get used to them.
Aug. 18, 2011
Duke
Men's 60
709 posts
Hey Guys,

This is my take on the subject. I will hit the ball wherever I can to get a hit. If that means up the middle, then so be it. I am not trying to hit anyone in the infield. I am trying to get on base. I have hit probably 3-4 pitchers, an infielder once or twice, and a couple of teammates on my team running the bases. LOL! The players batting in front of me were informed exactly where I was going to hit the ball, depending on how I was defensed. After being hit, they now pay more attention. I apologized to each and everyone that I hit. I rarely apologize for hitting a ball close to someone. I aim as far away from any fielder on the field. I beleive that is everyone's goal.

As a pitcher most of the time in this game, I have available to me all sorts of safety equipment: shin guards, face guard, cup, and chest protector. The only one that I own is shin guards, and I do not use those that often. In my old age, I will be utilizing the cup in the future. I see no use for the other equipment, just a hindrance for me. If I cannot defend my position, then I will play elsewhere. I have been hit in the shins twice in my first 40 years of playing softball. I have been hit at least 6 times in the shins in my first 11 years of senior ball. Each time hurts just as bad as the last time. I have had guys apologize for hitting me or getting too close to me. That is good sportsmanship and I appreciate that, but I am more disappointed that I did not catch that one. I want guys to try and get a hit up the middle, in hopes of flaging it down and retiring the batter. I like playing defense. Depending on my pitch, I try to move around and get in the way of where I think the batter might hit the ball. I want the ball, so please hit me the ball. If you are some 300 pound monster, I will pitch you inside and I do not want your ball, especially with the Ultra II. LOL! I just tell my 3B and SS to be ready.

JMHO!

Andy Smith,
60 Major Plus/55 Major
Aug. 18, 2011
Tate22
Men's 55
259 posts
Stick8, Vegas Worlds in 2008, I played for and managed Evolution in 50 Major. I believe you were playing for an outfit from Michigan. Those line drives you hit are hardly punch and judy! I agree with you, I haven't witnessed deliberate shots at pitchers, but I get tired of the notion that hitting to the middle of the field is wrong and intended to hurt pitchers.
Aug. 18, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
tate22,yep ya get within 10' of a pitcher now a days and they get all butt hurt about,if i get even that close it is an automatic sorry pitch from me,just to let them know,it wasn't intentional,or ya hear "oh i guess middles open now "comments from that team or pitcher.
like you have said it has always been open,and most of us who grew up playing baseball were taught to hit back up the middle "hit it where it came from".
i wish there was a tried and true method of protecting the pitcher,as this is only a rec game and everyone needs to be able to go home in one piece,just don't know what to say without getting into a peeing contest.
Aug. 18, 2011
stick8
1282 posts
Tate22 I now remember your team. At the time I was with Gekle Builders and yes we were out of Michigan. Correct me if I'm wrong but that year we barely beat you in the prelims but you put a pretty good (you know what) whupping on us in the tournament!.
Aug. 18, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
Duke-great post, absolutely. I believe most of the major and major plus pitchers I have faced feel the same and I have faced some that look like a marine drill instructor staring you down daring you to hit it up the middle. It's guys like you that prove to me the screen is not only not needed in Senior tournament ball, but not wanted by competitive pitchers.
Aug. 18, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
i'm with you webbie,no screen..and i do have a chip on my shoulder where i want you to try and get it by me,also.i do find by pitching bp from behind a screen i do get lazy during games sometimes,just need to be careful about that.its not the ball hit at me,but the ones off to the side i think i could got over to field and just watch them go by....oh well....
Aug. 18, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
I agree that a screen is not the best idea
for senior ball as there are other
simpler more effortless ways to protect a pitcher
but they are MUCH better than going to significantly restricted flight equipment.
You know my views by now.
Lively bats and balls
or more specifically a good bat/ball combo
is essential to our game.
If we have to have screens, the
great majority would go along with them.
Aug. 18, 2011
Pricer
Men's 50
622 posts
Let me the first to say, the first association to go with a screen for the pitcher will have seen the last of me playing ball in that association. If it becomes mandatory in all seniors, golf or hockey all summer long will take it's place.
Aug. 18, 2011
gary c
411 posts
YOU ARE SO WRONG ABOUT THE SCREEN.
Aug. 18, 2011
gary c
411 posts
YOU WOULD PUT A SCREEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INFIELD TO SAVE YOUR SACRED BAT.
YOU HAVE PROVED YOUR JUST A JOHNNY COME LATELY PLAYER YOU COULD NOT HAVE GROWN UP PLAYING THE GAME AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING SO STUPID.
Aug. 18, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
How is this comment not disparaging, SSUSA,
in intent and content
and it characterizes Gary C and his posts
yet you continue to support him
in direct opposition to your standards
of conduct for this site.
Not only does this appear wrong
it begs the question why.

Why DO you continue to support him
in contradiction to your own standards
for inappropriate behavior on this site?
Aug. 18, 2011
gary c
411 posts
Joey you argue when the staff puts a rule in front of your face and tell them they are wrong but I say anybody who would put a screen up in the middle of the field
is stupid and I am the bad guy.
Aug. 18, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
How is this comment not disparaging, SSUSA,
in intent and content
and it characterizes Gary C and his posts
yet you continue to support him
in direct opposition to your standards
of conduct for this site.
Not only does this appear wrong
it begs the question why.

Why DO you continue to support him
in contradiction to your own standards
for inappropriate behavior on this site?
Aug. 18, 2011
gary c
411 posts
I say an idea is stupid and you want me thrown off the site.
Rev.Joe you stop preaching and attacking when we don't agree with you and you won't hear from me.
Aug. 19, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Gary C is the responsibility of SSUSA and them alone
to deal with.
Not me or any of us.
He lives to disparage and color the landscape
at and only at the behest of SSUSA.
He reflect only on them as he violates THEIR standard
for disparaging content, over and over again.
It makes you as why.
Aug. 19, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
"ask why' oops
Aug. 19, 2011
obagain
Men's 50
56 posts
In league tuesday I switched from a 28 oz bat to a 26 oz and of course the pitcher throws a low outside pitch that I hit right at his feet since I was not used to the weight of the bat.
It is an auto out so i immediatly ask if he is ok but he is too mad at the ump and me to hear it, a ream mate told me he thought I was running to 1st instead of checking on him.
We talked after the inning, I didnt apologise but I did let him know I didnt hit him on purpose.
He asked where he could pitch so I wouldnt hit him again and I told him anything but low outside.
Next AB he throws me a inside pitch I hit down the 3b line.
The next AB he throws the first way high and the next 2 are low outside called strikes, at that point I am going to hit the next strike even if it is low outside, if he knows I will hit him with that pitch and he uses that to try and get a K out of me then whatever happens is on him, I am not trying to hurt anyone but I am not giving myself up and giving them the out to protect him either.
Aug. 19, 2011
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
I'm a pitcher, Bob
and I don't have a problem with your approach at all.
I do know guys who will keep the ball off the pitcher at all times
but not everyone believes in that approach or possesses the bat control
to pull it off without killing their OBP.
But, you better tell your pitcher to be ready for action
when he steps on the mound and no crying or whining, either.
Aug. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
tell me bob.i buzz a pitcher last nite in league b/c of the same pitch,i got lucky and hit it about 4' over his head,this was at twilight and seeing a ball at that time of nite is bad.he didn't react till the ball was almost at second.hey we are hitting sunday 5 pm,might have a sale,guy broke his red miken,(ed the guy who was there memorial day when you came over).he might be looking for a new senior bat,its either you or i send him to guru for a combat.LOL.....
Aug. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
total BS if you go after a pitcher b/c you got buzzed for throwing an low and outside pitch,you threw it there you take consequences like a man.i throw pitches there all the time looking for outs,and DO NOT bitch anytime they are hit back at me,quit crying and be a man and play the game........
Aug. 19, 2011
obagain
Men's 50
56 posts
I can come out sunday, I will have a few new reeboks with me. :)
Aug. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
otay we will be on field 2(bottom fields).i'm gonna get there by 4 and gonna hit some 52's off a tee for a little testing.
Aug. 19, 2011
obagain
Men's 50
56 posts
I will be there at 4 then.
Aug. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
otay,if ya got any 52's bring them,looking for more utrip ones,the worth hot dots.if ya wanna get rid of them i can trade ya out for some bp balls i have.
Aug. 19, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1974 posts
otay???? Buh-wheat???? Nice post mad dog
Aug. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3932 posts
yep my son when he was just starting to talk,for some reason couldn't get "OK" out and would say otay,and yes we did use the buh-wheat on him.i got to be a habit we have continued....
Aug. 19, 2011
Q19
Men's 55
48 posts
Just my two cents. If you don't want to get smacked/spun (intentional/unintentional), find another position. Three years in Senior ball and 25+ years elsewhere, I've been hit square once and it was a good friend of mine who apologized all the way down the 1st base line. For me, I don't look for an apology and it doesn't matter to me whatsoever. My teammates might have a different take on it but oh well. I got smacked (back of the glove) twice in one game last year in Carson City & I thought my hand was broken. Just badly bruised I suppose cause I didn't make a trip to the doctor. One guy apologized and the other player was silent. Cool either way. I was just pissed cause I couldn't get my glove turned around fast enough and was pissed the second time cause it HURTED. I just like playing the game competetively hard and when the game ends, sportsmanship is displayed by handshake/fist smack/high five/butt slap/man hugs by the two teams. Its all good! It is what it is (always wanted to say that)!
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