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Discussion: No Water for Players in Arizona in 90 to 100 degrees

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Oct. 19, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
322 posts
No Water for Players in Arizona in 90 to 100 degrees
My Question is Why weren't there water supplied to each Dugout during the games? My Wife just got back from the World Championships and she was discussed as to how this group of Men ran its Tourney. Just imagine Senior playing on fields in 100 degree weather with no water being supplied. I feel a Stroke coming on.

Oh Bye the way, Winners just recevied Rings, or a chance to buy them, if they want them. What a Joke.
Oct. 19, 2011
Garocket
Men's 55
154 posts
This water thing bugs the heck out of me,
go by a 7-11 and get a $.99 water you can get a foam cover that will keep it cold and hang on the fence. Those coolers are never clean.
Some jerks will dip their hats down in the coolers to cool down.
I never drink from a team cooler, you never know how nasty they are.

I am sure they are not washed out very often
Oct. 19, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
I am hearing PT Barnum again.
Oct. 19, 2011
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
KEY:Winners receive
free rings per SSUSA.

Hey Gary, what negative comment is PT spewing this time?
Oct. 19, 2011
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Garocket has it right.........I've seen too many towels go into those coolers in years past. You should bring your own water.
Oct. 19, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3936 posts
what fields had no water,the ones i seen(ceaser chavez,papago,desert west) had a water fountain in the dugouts and the water was pretty cool.i do bring my own,tho and put a workout powder in it.
Oct. 19, 2011
SSUSA Staff
1258 posts
There are permanent, functioning water fountains in all dugouts at Cesar Chavez, Desert West, Papago and Rose Mofford. There are water jugs and cups in all dugouts at Mountain Vista and Thompson Peak Park. There are water fountains in all dugouts at Victory Lane for play this Friday. If this frivolous complaint is really about the water not being cold enough, please keep in mind this is Phoenix and temperatures have been running in the upper 90's and low 100's. There are more than enough retail outlets such as Circle K, 7/11, AM/PM and others that sell a broad assortment of drinks, and most of them even have ice for sale!

Oct. 19, 2011
400
Men's 50
77 posts
Canljack when did you become too old to take care of yourself? The responsibility falls on the player to make sure that "you" are covered for maintaining "your" body. If you rely on others to take care of you then you are a ticking time bomb. There are stores or convenience marts on every corner and $3.99 for a case of water or $3.50 for two quarts of Powerade are valuable "insurance" wouldn't you say? Is this really the issue or are you just looking for an avenue to complain?
Oct. 19, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
This site is for senior softball players. Complaining is a way of life.
Oct. 19, 2011
hitman
Men's 65
306 posts
Yes it is and since most of the complaining and non-agreeing is done by by someone who doesn't even go to the big tourneys.
Oct. 19, 2011
Dbax
Men's 60
1278 posts
Canijack, before popping off, please advise what complex your wife was playing at. The women playing at Mountain Vistas had water coolers with ice in them all weekend. The water was ice cold and replaced immediately when they got low. The Papago Complex also had water fountains in the dugouts providing ice cold water. I know Rose Mofford Complex has the same. What are you talking about?

Also, you're complaining about free rings for the winners??? Talk about a grumpy old man!

On another note, kudos to the City of Phoenix ground crew who kept Mountain Vista and Papago Complex in immaculate condition after each game.

And by the way, for everyone showing up this weekend, the weather right now is absolutely perfect.
Oct. 19, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Yea, cause the big tourneys are all there is.

Well, "winning" the right to buy your own rings is really silly, and ridiculous, and funny.
Oct. 19, 2011
Dbax
Men's 60
1278 posts
Gary the rings are free....you can upgrade them if you want. Very simple to understand.
Oct. 19, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
322 posts
Yes Gary," A Sucker born every minute"
and We who have won rings and I have a few, have had to pay for a couple(this Assoc.yes 2006 when the Mavericks won),and up grades yes.

Itís common courtesy to provide Cold water and ICE with cups. Not hot drinking fountains.
And like I said before the Women didn't have water in their Dugout. Plain and simple.

I'll be there this weekend with my own F in waster. If this Touney wasn't paid for I surely wouldn't be going.





Oct. 19, 2011
400
Men's 50
77 posts
OK canljack might want to put down that cough medicine because I think you meant to say that you'll bring your own F'n water. Tne next question that I have for you is: So if they provide water in the dugout then what will be the next thing that you find to find fault with? You are obviously playing this coming weekend so why not come in looking for the good competition, the good weather, the good friends and then leave with a good feeling with or without the championship. Good luck!

Enjoy the moment and help eveyone else enjoy theirs! Isn't that what this game is about?
Oct. 20, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Where did canjack say he isn't looking for those things? He was just looking for some water. Sheesh........

Why do so many on here want to gloss over improvements that can be made?

And the games are about winning, or they wouldn't keep score and standings. Individuals can get whatever they want out of it, there certainly can be other things as well, but there is a reason scores are kept.
Oct. 20, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1980 posts
Gary-you need to start your own association. The GPSSA (Gary's Perfect Senior Softball Association) could have everything you cherish in softball-no courtesy runners, no reentry rule, no DH, no time limits, no safety plate, no orange bags at first, unlimited home runs, back to the alloy bats and a 47/525 ball or an even less lively combo, no pitcher protective equipment, YOU could provide rings for tournament winners at your expense and maybe even give rings for second and third place in both divisions-assuming you go to 2 divisions, water in every dugout, 4 umpires for every game so they never miss a call, no mats, large brackets, and fewer tournaments yearly with only 1 tournament called the National Championships. OOOPS forgot metal spikes. I would bet that your message board on your website would be boring, with the game being so perfect.
It's easy to complain about what you have. If you hate SSUSA so much, why do you spend your time here blasting every bit of our game? Surely you have something better to do----or more constructive.
337 teams in Phoenix-and SSUSA continues to grow. They must be doing something right!
Oct. 20, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Webbie, so you are telling me you never played in a league or tournament where actual awards (trophies, plaques, rings) were provided by the organizers? C'mon now! How could that have been done for YEARS, but can't now?

I never said to put water in dugouts. I don't expect it, wouldn't trust it, I bring my own. NOT that difficult to do.

The rest of your post was just silly, and just a weeeeee bit exaggerated. But you already know that.
Oct. 20, 2011
steve65
Men's 65
175 posts
enjoyed seeing that Gary admitted that his wife is the athlete in the family!!!! from reading the posts she is also the thinker in the family!!!! sorry for the negativity but running so much took all the oxygen from my brain and now I cannot think straight!!! gary I hope you see the humor in the above comments---seriously I read all the complaining on the message boards and think that we as a group do not see the benefits--I did not play for over 40 years and three years ago when I started playing in a church league I could not run from home to first base. I kept at it despite the pain and now play the outfield and run for the guys that could not play without a CR. I furnish my own water and realize that if the tourneys furnished rings the entry fee would have to be much higher. Lets com eup with ideas to improve the game instead of blasting what others are trying to do to improve things. Have a nice day people!!
Oct. 20, 2011
kbl
Men's 60
529 posts
steve65....well said...thanks, ken
Oct. 20, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
steve, I have freely admitted that about her for 31 years now. :)

I have played in leagues and tournaments for 35 years, still do, where awards of some nature are furnished. How can they not be now? How did everyone else manage to fit it into their budget, without exhorbitant entry feed, but not Senior Softball? Again, I hear PT loud and clear.

Oct. 20, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
322 posts
I see that you boys like to take things and put your own spin on it. Well I have always brought my own water. I really don't trust our water systems. I don't drink from anything but a water bottle, even at Home. No rags in the water and ice. Kind of Nasty don't you think! I also treat my smart water with Propel, some guys might know about that.
These large world tourneys, should go out there way to make us comfortable, since the teams spin so much money away. JMO

I'm not complaining. But my wife is and I like to think that I was bringing it to their attention by way of this post. Why wasnít there water in their dugout? Answer -We missed that one..Case closed
Oct. 20, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2615 posts
Again canjack, just think of what Barnum said.
Oct. 20, 2011
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
Webbie, you missed a few or a few could have been better stated. For example: ASSociation should have had more impact; like capitalizing ASS in ASSociation.
Tournament date should be before mid-Sept. so as not to conflict with the off season. Pitching rubbers at all field should be raised so as to be above the dirt, not flush with it. The ASSociation owner should derive sole his income to support his family from his softball work only. Cracker Jacks should be provided to each entry so they all get a prize. That's why we attend isn't it?


canlack, what field was the water problem at? We had ice cold water at Papago this week thru yesterday. I bring my own, but prefer to refill my own bottle from a fountain, which was in our dugouts and cold at that!
Hats off to very good grounds crew at Papago, job well done.


In all my years, going back to the 60's, I've never gone to a tournament for the free prizes. And, now at my age, it's like getting a giganic prize being alive, getting to play at a top level, competing against old friends, and also playing againt new found friends. My prize is being blessed by being able to compete. I find it a blessing each tournament to meet and talk with someone new, this tournament it was Jim Carey, Softball Guru. It's about loving the sport, great competition, not trinkets. (if I do win the Worlds, knowing who I had to beat, send me a ring! It will be cherished)


Hats off to Omen, Guru, and Florida Legends. Good guys, great to compete against.


Oct. 20, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3936 posts
curveball what are the standing in the M+ out there.who is left......
Oct. 20, 2011
DoubleL10
Men's 65
832 posts
maddog, Omen won, Guru beat Florida for 2nd. We tried but lost to superior manpower.


Oct. 21, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3936 posts
larry,i seen you guys were short handed,way to hang in there....congrats....
Oct. 22, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
322 posts
MY BAD, I SHOULDN'T HAVE OPEN MY MOUTH BEFORE I GOT HERE. When my wife speaks I do try to listen, sometime I will Go OFF when she is upset. Sorry Again
There is plenty of Water and cups in the Dugouts. I was able to visit a couple of complexs and I must say that the Men and crews working the fields and comlexs are doing a great job. I'm out in Chandler, Not the greatest complex, but the fields are kept up betweeen games. What else could I ask for. Sorry for POPING off USA. With such a large event somethigs do happen. Oh bye the way, I am glad as hell that I came,
Lots of friends and ex team mates are here.

Bye the way Thanks Ricky Ware(LAF)for the Water(Mavericks don't die,They just Multiply I didn't have any with me when I got to your Complex were the 50s were at.

Corky of Miken Sports, Thanks Man, for taking care of that Bat bag the was torn up. A man of his word.

Have a Great Tourney Guys, And Good Luck.

Sorry no spell check!
Oct. 22, 2011
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
Kennard you are a man of humility, honor and integrity. We all go off now and then.
Have you ever seen Krispy Kreme go off? It aint pretty =)
Oct. 26, 2011
Wayne 37
203 posts
Played at Rose Mofford this weekend and all my dugouts had water coolers. Only played in three different dugouts. Two fountains had cold water. One was lukewarm. There were cold/lukewarm water fountains by the concession stands, also.

Did go to an obsolete field close to the ballpark to take BP. It had fountains with cold water sitting in the middle of both fields. Surprised the heck out me.
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