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Discussion: Hard time getting ahold of Team 1 sports re: broken Ambush

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Nov. 29, 2012
Big Mike
60 posts
Hard time getting ahold of Team 1 sports re: broken Ambush
Got a new Ambush. It cracked day before yesterday. Can't seem to get Alan to return messages....any ideas?
Nov. 29, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Try buying one from Alan, I'm sure he will call you right back? How long did it last?
Nov. 29, 2012
JDub
Men's 50
131 posts
To the best of my knowledge there is "No Warranty" on Senior Bats. However, Alan's Customer Service is Impeccable . . .

Alan just got back from Cozumel competing in the Ironman Triathlon. He's prolly playing catchup or maybe just Resting ! ? ! ?


Team 1 Sports
1635 Pleasant Drive
Juno Beach, FL 33408

Phone: 561-718-7504
Fax: 561-626-2364
tricoach18@att.net
Nov. 30, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Am curious, How did you break the bat in and about how many hits were on it when you broke it?
I have a 26, I use and like it a lot.

Nov. 30, 2012
Big Mike
60 posts
Mine is a 30 fl....approx 300 hits....broke it in slow....hit some at half speed, somemore at 3/4...then went all out...preformed GREAT....in fact it's broke in 2 places.....it's a shame...freakin bat is FREAKIN HOT!...well not now, but it was....:)
Nov. 30, 2012
Big Mike
60 posts
maybe I should say that this bat was used by a bunch of wounded warriors...they play able bodied teams and truthfully some of these guys have upper bodies that would make a weightlifter jealous.
Nov. 30, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
with 300 swings that's about the time that they would break um I had black Centa nariani it has the same barrel as an ambush it broke around 300 swings for me! so good luck with trying to get that replaced
Nov. 30, 2012
Paco13
353 posts
Big Mike, You got 300 swings and according to you by some big boys and U R Complaining. Dude U have issues next time get a USSSA bat. No love 4 U here. I have a 27EL and I love it mine has about 200 swings, however I am only 175 wet.

PR NINJA OUT

JESUS TE AMA
Nov. 30, 2012
Big Mike
60 posts
Hey paco...if you don't have something worthwhile to say, why did you say anything? Just because these guys are big doesn't mean they can hit hard. They are in wheelchairs for God's sake.

Hey swing...when we bought this bat we were told this was all new technology, and stronger and more durable that a Cent...Our Cent has over 1000 hits and it's just fine.

We have never had a bat break after just 300 hits. Hell, we have never had a bat break ever. Except some Mikens a few years back, but they turned out to be from a bad batch and we replaced by Miken.
Nov. 30, 2012
Paco13
353 posts
You never said anything about wheelchairs for that I apologize. I am a retired Naval Officer with 24 Years of service. Not all the wonded warrior teams are on wheelchair. I am very sensitive to it. The point here is that a senior bat for the most part don't last that long even with little people swinging it. Hopefully you get a new bat. I strongly suggest that you don't post anyhting here if you do. We all are going to want a replacement bat. AgAng my apology for the misunderstanding. Good luck.

PR NINJA OUT

JESUS TE AMA
Nov. 30, 2012
Big Mike
60 posts
Paco...thank you for your service.....29yrs, 9mos and 12 days....US Army
Nov. 30, 2012
rightrj1
Men's 55
180 posts
Big Mike,
I'll have to agree with you on this one, My Ambush lasted about 600 swing, took 500 to break-in once It got hot it cracked...My Black & White Cent, have well over 1200 swings lasting a little longer!!
Alan's a good guy he'll take care of you one way or the other!
Nov. 30, 2012
the answer
Men's 55
104 posts
I have 2 yellow combats for sale...350 apiece 28 oz fl and ba I can tell you my last yellow combat which I still have with a slight rattle. was used all summer and fall by my all age sunday teams as a team bat we even hit with it in the fall here in nj and it was under 40 a couple times..it lasted all the way till halfway thru the followwing spring..thats 2 1/2 seasonsa as a team bat with some young studs also swinging it..8 or 9 guys at least per game ..almost 100 games..hit bombs.well worth the price chapsteven4@aol.com
Nov. 30, 2012
wagon487
Men's 50
507 posts
this should be good, getting my popcorn ready....
Dec. 1, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
should read Not the Answer! There are as good or better bats for 168 dollars!
Dec. 2, 2012
the answer
Men's 55
104 posts
durability is the key to this bat..heard they were selling for 350 to 375 in ft meyers a few weeks back..I will get my price for someone who can think straight..if the bat is hot and outlast 2 cheaply made mikens..then its worth it
Dec. 2, 2012
the answer
Men's 55
104 posts
or reeboks and someone else broke an ambush today first day out..suit yourself
Dec. 3, 2012
LeeLee
86 posts
To The ANSWER

Really!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Luck On selling your bat but please quit trying to ram it down our throats.
Dec. 3, 2012
the answer
Men's 55
104 posts
thanks Lee..may I also mention a demarini practically brand new literally broke in half yesterday too..it was 59 degrees..not that cold
Dec. 3, 2012
softballnuts
78 posts

answer:

What makes you so sure that over priced bat your trying to sell won't break?

If you are sure, why not offer some sort of warranty of your own? 60 days? 90 days?

Or are you afraid that bat won't last more than three hits?








Dec. 3, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
the wrong Answer should be banned for selling overpriced BS! IMO
Dec. 5, 2012
RoyHobbs
14 posts
If anyone is interested in purchasing a new softball bat, I highly recommend utilizing Alan from Team 1 Sports. I called him earlier this week and informed him that I wanted to purchase a new senior softball bat; however, I wasn't sure if I wanted to purchase a 26 ounce, a 27 ounce or a 28 ounce senior softball bat. To my surprise, he indicated that he could meet me a local softball field that same day so I could try various weights and models to determine what worked best for my particular swing. Fortunately, I live in the same general area. Nevertheless, I was extremely impressed with his customer service. As a matter of fact, Alan even brought softballs and pitched them to me as I tried various weights. Needless to say, I was impressed by the Ambush and Reebok senior softball bats that I swung and purchased a bat that worked for my particular swing. However, I was just as impressed with his customer service. However, I must say (even though he is a home run hitting machine) I was not too impressed with his pitching abilities. : )
Jan. 6, 2013
4bags
9 posts
Roy,
I agree about Alan...he spent a long time with me and I love my new Ambush!
Jan. 9, 2013
surf88
Men's 60
845 posts
I have not had the pleasure of meeting Alan but I have spoken with him and sent two Ambush purchasers to him. I expect he is what others have said about him, a quality man with good intent.

I would like to share that I also help my customers to the best of my ability wherever and whenever I can. It is a caring and quality attitide that Alan and I (and I expect others as well) operate our businesses by.

Would like to wish everyone out there a safe and productive season ahead. Many good wishes and blessings to all.
Ed Andrews
batman@andrewsdev.com
(970) 729-3145
Jan. 9, 2013
mnmasters38
Men's 60
12 posts
I've worked with Alan for some time now and he has always got back to me and taken care of things. My first ambush 27oz bal had over 1100 swings before it broke, I used it as a demo bat and it was my fault it broke. Was trying to see how well it would hold up under different conditions, we had a cold streak in Sept or Oct about 45 degrees, we broke 4 of my demo ambush bats 3 of them had over 600 swings in them and 1 had over 1100. I think it's an excellant bat, but with all senior bats once they get broken in leave them in the bag for the big tournaments.
Gary Bennett
gary@xtreme.us.com
612-747-9315
Feb. 6, 2013
DevilDog84
1 posts
Hello
Mine is not broken however the end cap appears to be coming off, or so appears to be. On one side the end cap appears to be (for lack of better words )completely down, no space between the end of the bat and cap. On the other side there appears to be a growing space between the end cap and the end of the bat.
I worry about this since I had a Combat Anti Virus that had the same look before the end cap came completely off.

Think something this would be covered as I see that as more as a defect in manuf ?

It has less than a hundred swings on it. Wife will brain me with it if I ask for a new bat already.

THanks
Feb. 6, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
590 posts
DD84 - good luck with that...I don't know why Combat can't get that right.

Have two new Centenarians with me here in Thailand - 28FL = cap popped off in under 30 swings ///// 30FL = cap popped off about 85 swings.

And - we definitely are not playing in adverse weather or poor conditions of any kind here.

Brought 4 of Mike's Yellow bats here last year and 3 are still going strong (though two end caps are loose).

RIP - broke a Yellow RIP IT last Sunday.
Feb. 6, 2013
Tri18
565 posts
Devi dog,
If you are speaking of an Ambush with a loose end cap please get in touch with me and I will see about getting it reset. The Ambush has a slightly different end cap and we have had very good success with it. The total amount of end cap issues that have been reported to me are just 6. Five where the cap came loose and one that for some reason actually cracked! As with any manufactured product, there can be some issues here and there but our design has been much better than some of the Combat models of the past. If you have any needs or questions please get with me so I can take care of things for you.
Alan Tanner
Tricoach18@att.net
561-718-7504
Www.team1sports.us
Feb. 8, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
413 posts
4x4- Macenko previously advised how to home fix
an endcap. Suggested product is 3M Marine Adhesive Sealant, either fast cure or slow cure.
I prefer Fast Cure 5200. Fixed a yellow early last year and still in place.
Feb. 8, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
413 posts
4x4- Macenko previously advised how to home fix
an endcap. Suggested product is 3M Marine Adhesive Sealant, either fast cure or slow cure.
I prefer Fast Cure 5200. Fixed a yellow early last year and still in place.
Feb. 8, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
590 posts
Thanks HJ - yes Mike and I had gotten together before and found a Smooth On formula that worked...it did work but for $42 I got to fix one bat as the product hardened in the container and could not use afterward. The first batch of Smooth On worked for quite a lot of bats for me and my friends - the 2nd batch was the one that hardened up - same stuff, methods, and precautions - ????

I have used the 3M and it did not hold up. I found the Gorrila "Super Glue" impact tough formula has worked on a couple of Combats. One for over 1500 impacts (29FL MM 10"). Still working on the Centenarian 28FL.

It's the package that has two tubes in it although they are both the same stuff - total net weight 6 grams....Orange and Blue packaging.

So far have not found it in Thailand though - maybe the Fast Cure is here, I'll look.

Most of anything that's on US shelves is available here, just have to get use to where to look. Stores are just as big if not bigger and more modern but finding which one has what is needed takes time.........

If nothing else I'll have the next visitor from the US bring some along

Thanks
Feb. 8, 2013
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
The key to any end plug repair is having some patience. You want to use a 80 grit sandpaper and clean the end plug as well as the inside of the barrel. Kevin Schullstrom is the one who really worked it out to repair the bats. I just followed suit. One thing I do is put plenty of the glue inside of the barrel and a lot on the end plug. I am a firm believer in more than less when it comes to end plugs. It (might) add a little bit of weight to the bat but I really don't think it will be noticable. If anybody has any questions about the end plugs you can contact me at mike@bigcat844.com.. Hope this helps.

Mike Macenko
aka:Gorilla Boy
Feb. 8, 2013
Bubble Gum
63 posts
Gorilla Boy
I have done exactly what you have instructed to repair the loose end cap. In fact I have done it on more than one Combat model. On both the Black Centenarian and the Yellow Combat, I got the same result. Both times, because of air pressure the end caps would NOT stay seated all the way down. So when the glue cured the end cap had a gap from it's fully seated position. After I applied the glue I placed the bat on it's end cap for a few days, but the bats weight did not hold the end cap in the all the way down position. Did you do something to keep the end cap all the way down until the glue cured? Or did you put a small hole in the end cap to allow for air pressure?
Feb. 8, 2013
J R
175 posts
Used Marine Glue seals very well.Used exercise bands stretched from end cap to handle Takes 72 hrs to dry.Been in place for a year
Feb. 8, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
590 posts
Mike is right more is better.

Turn the bat to even it up inside and stand on the end cap straight up so everything that dries does right against the end cap. Be patient for a few days espeically in the cold weather climates. Make sure you pop the cap all the way in by whacking it on the knob when it is 1st stood straight up ( I used a rubber mallet - some glue will splash outward don't do this on your wifes good carpet). Some guys tape the end cap with a single piece of duct tape like the band on a liquor bottle cap.

The Centenarian I did in the US is doing OK as did the MM 10" I did here in Thailand.

Only trouble is I've got 4 bats here that need to the end cap refastened and enough sruff for two of them.........
Feb. 8, 2013
Gorilla Boy
Men's 50
168 posts
Once I put the cap in place, and yes it wants to come out because it is air tight, I get it as tight as it will go then I wipe off the excess glue with an alcohol solvent. Then I will take 3 10 inch pieces of duct tape and tape it over the end plug on 3 spots accross the end cap. This should keep the end cap in toight. It has worked for me. Stand it on its plug overnight. All you can do is try. I hope this helps.

Mike Macenko
aka:Gorilla Boy

It seems like somethings work better than other ones for certain people. I know that the glue Pete usesd works. I believe I got the ingrediant form Krueg. He kn ows the real good stuff but it so expensive. Hey Pete waht was the glue that Krueg suggested again? Thanks in advance....
Feb. 8, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Here are some 'glues' that have been mentioned for end cap problems all the way back to 2006 I think it was.


Flexan 80,
J B WELD,
Super Glue Anchor-tite waterproof EpoxyProduct #15206 [upper left hand corner of the package],
DEVCON 25 Epoxy Plus Adhesive,
3M marine adhesive sealant fast cure 4000uv,
Gorilla Grip Glue


With all of them be careful & read the directions.
Feb. 8, 2013
the wood
1071 posts
We've been buying Combats from Kevin Schullstrom for 6 years or so. Conservatively speaking, I would guess that we've bought 30-40 from him (as a team) and we've had a couple of ones w/ end cap issues but not many. He also recommended Marine Glue.
We have also had some 'duds' or less than lively ones... again, very few.
But when we did Kevin replaced them for us (one gray model and 2 White Centenarians). All of the replacements were what we've come to expect of Combat and Kevin, top notch.
Bob Woodroof
Feb. 8, 2013
?
75 posts

Does a bat have to be "air tight" to have high performance?


Feb. 8, 2013
4x4
Men's 65
590 posts
Mike - the one that works the best of all was the Smooth On Product <> there are 2 - the Smooth Cast 45D or the Smooth Cast 60D. 60D was supposed to be an upgrade - but that's the one that hardened up in the bottle - the 45D did not but unknown whether I just didn't seal the 60D as well.They were both the impact resistant. The trial sizes run about $27 + shipping but if preserved you could do 10+ maybe 20+ bats and never get a failure. I fixed a LOT of end caps for folks whether they got the bat from me or not and not one ever came loose. The ones I did for myself always held with the bat breaking 1st. I don't swing as hard as you or Curt or Kruegs but not unusual to break 10-13 every year which is why there's always 9-10 in my bag. One tourney can blow up 3.

There are two plastic bottles they send and you have to mix and use within 3-4 minutes so the preparation has to be done and the bat has to be positioned and ready.

Guys if you are doing this the preparation is really really important - you have to get ALL residual glue out of the groove and every area of the end cap. Do it by hand (tried a Dremel tool once - good bye bat). I used a razor to take the loose big stuff off. Then a file to get the rest off the end cap & leave a light cross hatch to help rebond. Then I had an awl set that had straight, curved, and 90 degree angles and picked everything out of the bat groove and the end plug groove. Then when cleaned and ready - then you can apply the glue. A little residual old glue will remain but will be about only 5%.

Then the bat went at an angle that allowed it to be turned while adding the glue - three hands is better than two. The end cap I'd dip right in the Smooth On up to the edge - then quickly push into the barrel while turning the bat to equalize the seal inside. Put the bat on the floor and pop it once hard with a good size rubber mallet and you'll hear it and feel it snap in. Check to see it's tight - clean quickly with de-natured alcohol and put the tape on and let her sit. With the Smooth On over night was enough but I'd sit is in the sun straight up for a day anyway. Wear throw away rubber gloves or be prepared to have some of that stuff attached to you for awhile.

I think we got the Smooth On info from a prominent member of the Midget Mafia Florida Division - which none of us could belong to due to an unfair height requirement. I think I called on Kruegs stuff didn't get any help from who I spoke with (Washington State?).
Feb. 9, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
3M 5200 works well!
Feb. 9, 2013
mnmasters38
Men's 60
12 posts
Tim is at the TOC this weekend, but he will take care of you. My first Ambush had over 1000 swings before it broke. I also had 3 demos out that broke after about 650 swings, they broke in about 40 degree weather.
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