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| Nov. 23, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Thoughts for the upcoming SSUSA Rules Committee meeting! Jawood, When a major plus team played a major team they would split the difference on homerun rules- 0 for major, 12 for plus would be 6 in the game, followed by one-up/walks. The runs per inning would split the difference as well - 9 for plus, 5 for major would equal 7 runs per inning. You would end up with rules very close to the existing major rules today whenever a major team played a major plus team. The rest of the time they wouldn't be able to hit homeruns- my guess is they would begin to welcome playing the plus teams. And some upper level major teams would possibly be "enticed" into playing plus. |
| Nov. 18, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Thoughts for the upcoming SSUSA Rules Committee meeting! Make home runs in every division but major plus dead ball outs. See how many plus players want to play major or AAA then. |
| Nov. 18, 2012 Mango | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention If the screen is to protect the pitcher it is not logical that he can then be a fielder. |
| Nov. 18, 2012 Mango | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention If the screen is to protect the pitcher it is not logical that he can then be a fielder. |
| Nov. 18, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Thoughts for the upcoming SSUSA Rules Committee meeting! A133, I think what he means is if you add up the population of Tennessee and all its adjoining states (Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, N. Carolina, Virginia, and Kentucky)it comes out to 55.5 million, which is considerably higher than Florida (16 million), or California (36 million). How can you restrict California and Florida and not states like Tennessee? Not to mention the geography of the states. California is an extremely long state. For Southern California teams, players in parts of Nevada and Arizona are geographically more desirable than Nor Cal players. 3 to 4 hour drive time as opposed to 7-10 for Nor Cal players. Mango |
| Oct. 20, 2012 Mango | Topic: Bats Discussion: White Centenarian Short barrel I have purchased 4 of them. They were way hotter out of the wrapper than than either the yellow or gray combats of the past. They were sick. Within 20 swings they were as hot as my red ultra. I was thinking that if they had the same durability as the gray or yellow combat I would give up my red ultra forever. The first one broke around 60 swings. Had another one break about 75 swings. 3rd one broke under 100 swings. I still have the 4th one with around 50 swings on it...in my bag for games only. Another player on our team Bully broke his in under 100 swings as well. The bats are sick hot...but no durability. |
| Sept. 30, 2012 Mango | Topic: Associations Discussion: future of senior softball Tim, Swing Donl, I've seen you guys go back and forth on this issue for sometime. I’m going to make another suggestion. That, the propensity for there to be more teams ‘in the middle levels” of any given age group of senior softball is no more different than there being more people toward the average or middle in anything. Be it intelligence, height, ability to jump, run etc. In probability theory, the normal (or Gaussian) distribution is a continuous probability distribution that has a bell-shaped probability density function, known as the Gaussian function or informally as the Bell Curve: In the bell curve there are fewer outliers at either end of the x axis. There are fewer people 7 feet tall and 3 feet tall than there are people 5 feet tall. The further, or more extreme out you go to either end of the axis , the less people you will find there. This holds true to Senior Softball as well. There are fewer Plus and AA teams than AAA and Major. This is a Normal Distribution! This is also a function of the number of levels at each age group. If you were to add more levels (making it 6 instead of 4) by adding say, Super Major Plus, and A, you would find even less teams in those outliers than compared to the middle, following the bell shaped pattern. Conversely, if you were to reduce the number of levels to say, 3, you would find more balance in number of teams in each division. I’m not saying that needs to be done, just that you would find more balance in number of teams, and it is a function of the number of levels. Mango |
| Sept. 30, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: This is a first... Swing, not sure of your situation but maybe some of you have heard the true story of the “potato Pick-off”. In a minor league baseball game in the 80’s a catcher snuck a potato, peeled to look like a baseball, onto the field. With a runner on third base he pulled the potato out of his pocket and fired it wildly over the head of his third baseman. The runner on third came trotting home only to be tagged out by the catcher who was waiting for him with the real ball. After the umpires realized what had happened, they ruled the runner safe and the catcher was pulled from the game - by his manager (and I believe, released from the team the next day). Obviously, the catcher’s intention to deceive was taken into consideration. A little bit different than your situation but a pretty amusing story. |
| Aug. 8, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: This is a first... Dave and Fran, Thoughts and prayers are with you. Mango- Sommerville Softball |
| July 27, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP Hey Jawood, I'm not sure about how well that rule helps or hurts the plus division. It's probably too new to tell. Also just to set the record straight we actually have only 1 player outside our bordering state, and yes he is very good. But...he has only played in 2 tournaments with us ever. He played with us once in SPA a couple years ago and once this year in Reno. That rule hasn't "made" our team. How that rule helps other plus teams or major teams that want to move up probably remains to be seen. I'm not sure if you guys or other teams have had a chance to utilize it yet or not. You guys had a couple of bad breaks with injuries in Reno this year, but it was good playing you guys in the finals again this year. I liked the outcome better this year than last. Best of luck to you and your team. Mango |
| July 26, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP Hey Joe, Yes it was good seeing you in San Clemente a couple of weeks ago. And as far as the geographic make up of our team you are correct. When we played in the 45’s we were a team made up ENTIRELY of southern California players- we ALL lived within 70 miles of each other-though most every other team we met and defeated at the worlds (for 6 years) were multi- state teams. By the way, we never complained about multi state/no geographic restriction teams- those were the rules. We didn’t even care when a norcal team was flying in players from Washington and as far away as Valdosta Georgia to try and beat us. The rules allowed it. We just beat them with our local socal guys and our very limited sponsorship. When we joined the Mavericks they had 1 norcal guy –the only one of 18 players that didn’t live within 70 miles of us. Actually for one of those years we had 1 and a half players from Norcal(Sorry DuffJ). And California was an island so we had no exemptions or bordering states players. Recently, As Sommerville Softball, 2 of our socal boys moved to adjoining states. Fortunately for us California is no longer and island and those 2guys who have played with us for years and are from socal can still play with us. So yes Joe, you are right that 2 of our guys no longer live within 70 miles of us. Again great seeing you Joe, best of luck to you and your team. Mango |
| July 25, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP Tim Yikes! Ouch!! Ahhhhh… Sorry I/we wrecked senior softball. I’ve been reading your position on making the major plus division more suitable for your team to be able to play in for a while now. And I refrained from making any comments even though many of the things you and others have said about our team are not true-from our budget size, to our record, to where our players come from. Your comments demean our team, and make it sound like what we have done was easy. I assure you it was not. One of the most difficult parts was coming on a team that had been in existence for a long period of time without a lot of success at the Major Plus level and changing their attitude. When the attitude changed so did the level of success. But I couldn’t refrain from commenting when you made the statement about Mario- that his attitude- “wanting to play the best teams is what kills the upper division”. On prima fascia value alone that statement is ridiculously wrong-“players wanting to play up kills the upper level”? That doesn’t even make sense. But I can tell from Mario’s “attitude” that he is a big boy and doesn’t need my help. Congratulations to him and OKI for winning SPA worlds. I hope nobody makes them break up before the SSUSA worlds. If they did there would be less teams at the world, not more. Tim- I understand you are passionate about your viewpoint. I like passion. I also like facts. You have many facts wrong about who we are. I would be willing to share those facts with you over a friendly beer sometime. Best of luck to you and your team this season, at whatever level you play at- you have a lot of good players on that team. I wish you all the success you deserve. Mango Sommerville Softball |
| July 24, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP Tim, You say you want to grow the upper division. It sounds like ASA’s plan didn’t grow the upper division but quite the opposite got rid of it. And you mention history, but didn’t that show that once you got rid of the super division then the same problems happened in the major? What makes you seem to think it will be any different in Senior Softball? Softball, I believe, is like a pyramid with the “best” teams at the top. They are, by definition, fewer in number. Softball’s growth has always been at the lower divisions. Pushing the top teams at those lower divisions upward allows that growth. It sounds like your team has become one that is considered a top team in its division. Much to your chagrin it is being pushed upward. Your team playing the next level up would obviously help grow the uppers. It would also allow more room for the top AAA teams and so on down the line. So, for the good of softball, I would think you would want to move up and play. I believe it is players like Mario and their attitudes that allow softball to grow, not only at the highest levels but all levels. And players/teams, who when faced with the challenge of moving up, selfishly quit or break up, actually are destroying not only growth at the upper levels but growth at all levels of softball. Mango, Sommerville Softball |
| April 26, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Uniforms Hey Stick, Mango here. Any chance you guys are going to Rock n Reno. There should be at least 4 or 5 Major Plus Teams there. You guys would help make it a nice tournament. |
| April 12, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: To all the softball purists Food for thought-Some Baseball History- In 1875 Charles Waite of the St. Louis Brown Stockings became the first fielder to wear a fingerless glove. Unfortunately for him, he was the subject of intense ridicule by not only the opposing players and fans, but by his own teammates as well. Obviously, the timing was not right for the widespread acceptance of baseball gloves. It would take a few more years, along with a significant rule change, before the use of gloves became accepted. |
| Feb. 5, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: What should a healthy senior program look like? Hey Stick, Nice to hear from you. Your example is not 100% correct. Suppose you owe a store $1,000 and go in and buy a $200 bat and accidentally give them $210. Should you get the excess $10 back or should it be used to pay down your debt? That would be a better analogy.. For the last decade we have run deficits by cutting taxes and increasing spending. And these annual deficits have increased the National Debt to such an extent that almost 1/3rd of the budget this year will be interest on the National Debt. And Tim apologies for participating in the hijacking of your thread. |
| Feb. 4, 2012 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: What should a healthy senior program look like? Webbie, Not being political but just clearing up a couple of things. Just to clear things up. You are talking about 2 different things. One is the National Debt..that is at approximately 15 trillion. The "Deficit" is how much we are short each year, that is how much more we spend than we take in EACH YEAR. Last year the "deficit" was about 1.2 trillion. This was added to the National Debt. These annual deficits contribute to the NATIONAL DEBT. We have been running deficits for the last decade (since the Bush tax cuts of 2001). President Obama extended these tax cuts in 2010 and they too contribute to the National Debt. The last time we had a "surplus"(we take in more than we spend)was when Clinton was in office. Hope that clears up the difference between deficit and the national debt. Mango |
| Dec. 12, 2011 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Are California and Florida still Islands? Saw they had their winter meetings and was wondering if anyone knows if California and Florida are still considered islands? Or can they use players from adjoining states like the rest of the country? Thanks, mango |
| July 23, 2011 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: How do the other major teams feel about major and major plus in western national Mario- Kudos to you. I’m assuming when your New Construction team was moving up and challenging themselves they were playing the higher level rules and there were no run limits per inning. I’m sure you guys must have taken some beatings- standing out in the field while the other team hits and hits and hits and hits….. That is something that doesn’t happen with today’s rules in Senior Ball. Props. Mango |
| July 23, 2011 Mango | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: How do the other major teams feel about major and major plus in western national Tim- I agree with you. As someone who has played Major Plus the past several years I don’t particularly like playing Major teams in a National Event. First, the Major teams usually don’t want to play us and they feel that we are forcing them to play us (we don’t want to play you). Then the Major Plus team has to play THEIR rules (5 homeruns), give THEM 5 runs, AND have a 5 run limit. Given the hot bat/ball combo most Major teams can score 5 runs an inning. It’s hard to make up those extra 5 runs in one open inning especially when you’re out of homers ( and your team is built for Major Plus homer limits). Those contests are tailor made to advantage the Major teams. I’d much rather slug it out with a Major Plus team. A friend of mine who plays Major and I play on the same weeknight team with the kids. After the game we were having beers with the young pups and they asked if our teams ever played each other. When I told them we did and that my team had to give them 5 extra runs or an eleventh fielder they thought I was lying. They couldn’t comprehend it. I hate the 5 run an inning rule, but will admit it keeps all games close and gives the lesser teams a chance to win. I played in a World in Phoenix a couple of years ago and they only used the 5-run rule in seeding games. They removed it for tournament play. We played a team and won by 1 in the seeding round and beat them by 40 the next day. The 5 – run-rule makes every game close regardless of the talent discrepancy between teams. Mango |
