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, April 23, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is the runner out at first?

yes the runner is out on all of the above....the glove is considered an extension of the hand....the only time a runner wouldn't be out is on tag play with ball in hand but tagged the runner with the glove
, April 20, 2016
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Not the way to end an open inning

k man....Tim probably meant it was the final out for your at bat...and if his description of what happened was right then it was the correct call by the umpire
, April 14, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first bse

STAFF great answers especially the 2nd one which is the only one that actually describes the "original scenario" ...and also was my answer to Webbie25 when he asked a "specific question" .. would a runner be out IF THE FIELDER JUST CAUGHT THE BALL AND IS STANDING ON THE BAG after the runner had passed the base...again in that case there should be a verbal appeal while the fielder is on the bag....or as I also said a tag of the runner before he returned to the bag... I wasn't over thinking I was answering the question AS IT WAS ASKED and your 3rd answer that is really stretching the limits ...or as you always like to say...over-thinking
, April 14, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first bse

STAFF: I asked this question about your post on 4/10 and I guess you missed it so I will try again....STAFF on my last post I said to do a VERBAL appeal while being on the bag OR tag the runner before he returns to the bag .... You quoted stick8's mechanic...If the first baseman does a live ball appeal before the batter runner gets back to first then i call him out....Per your post on how an appeal can be made how would the fieder communicate to the umpire non-verbaly, implicit, or by assumed—so long as the intent of the fielder is clear to the umpire ..."
...where is it in the rule book or SENIOR SOFTBALL mechanics that an appeal may be non-verbal, implicit, or assumed...so if in your description if a fielder knows the runner misses the bag all he has to do is touch the bag and ASSUME the umpire knows what he is doing? please give some examples... and rule number please...thx
, April 12, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first base

screamer...NO...the window closes as soon as the runner returns safely to the bag...and yes I understand the appeal is simply asking...my question to staff was... how would the fielder do that in a NON-VERBAL way...and where is it in the rule book or SENIOR SOFTBALL mechanics that an appeal may be non-verbal, implicit, or assumed..
, April 11, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first base

screamer5....NO...once the runner returns to the bag safely an appeal cannot be made... HOPEFULLY STAFF will cite the rule number and umpire mechanic and give examples for my above post??
, April 10, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first base

STAFF on my last post I said do a VERBAL appeal while being on the bag OR tag the runner before he returns to the bag .... you quoted stick8 mechanic...If the first baseman does a live ball appeal before the batter runner gets back to first then i call him out.... how would the fieder do that in a NON-VERBAL way...where is it in the rule book or SENIOR SOFTBALL mechanics that an appeal may be non-verbal, implicit, or assumed...so if in your description if a fielder knows the runner misses the bag all he has to do is touch the bag and ASSUME the umpire knows what he is doing? please give some examples... and rule number please...thx
, April 10, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first base

webbie...YES....there has to be a VERBAL appeal while the fielder is on the bag or he tags the runner while making an appeal... BEFORE the runner returns to the bag
, April 8, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first base

poolshark....its the same as a runner going 1st to 3rd and missing 2nd...if the ball came into the 2b from the OF and the 2B just happens to step on the bag....would you call the runner out....NO its an appeal...all runners are assumed to have touched the base they are advancing to
, April 8, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: missing first base

if the batter/runner beats the throw and misses the base he should be called safe...all runners are assumed to have touched the base they are going to...this now is an appeal play and must be made before the runner returns to the bag
, April 7, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batter batting out of order

to add to that if the wrong batter makes an out and the defense does not say anything the next batter should be whoever follows the incorrect batter in the line up.... the batter who missed his at bat does not come to bat until the next time thru the line up
, April 7, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batter batting out of order

it is worded that way because if the defense were to appeal that the wrong batter was at bat they would just remove that batter and insert the correct batter and he would assume any balls and strikes...the defense will usually wait to see the result of that at bat... if the batter gets a hit or walk then make the appeal for a out
, April 2, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: coaches touching a runner

I agree with the point about the umpire using common sense...but that doesn't always happen....sometimes when rules are written there are gray areas in them and umpires interpret them differently..when this rule was re-written a few years ago if they had removed the words "touches and" it would have become only about physically assistint the runner
, March 28, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Mask On Field

since this is a local league I would write up a specific rule covering this if you seem to have a problem...also since the penalty is on the defense it would be obstruction not interference
, March 26, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Appeal Play?

Staff....thx for the detailed explanation for the above scenarios...
, March 26, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Appeal Play?

OZ40 I agree with you I think it's an appeal play also...what I'm trying to find out is there a difference between a batter/runner and a runner and if so why is there a difference...that's why I asked STAFF for there interpretation of this rule and above scenarios
, March 25, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Appeal Play?

oz40...yes....I didn't put in that runners were forced to advance
, March 25, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Appeal Play?

STAFF....In rule 8.3C it only mentions the batter-runner is out when he fails to advance to first base and enters the team area after a batted fair ball, a base on balls or catcher's interference. stick 8 says that any runner is out for not advancing and touching the next base and then enters the players area... are BOTH of these automatic outs without appeal...and the key on if it is an appeal or automatic call is whether or not the player enters the players area?












, March 12, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rule 6:16 once more

Gary, here is the amended rule ... §6.16 • WIND OR SUN AFFECTING BOTH PITCHERS – Proposal to amend the EFFECT at end of section. If the sun is affecting the batter’s ability to see the ball, the umpire may request that the Field Director allow the pitcher to pitch from up to six feet on either side of the pitching rubber, at the side chosen by the batter as the only remedy. The request, if granted, shall be applied on a full‐inning basis only. • In answer to your question...I would say yes..I wouldn't want to be the pitcher trying to hit the strike mat from the different angles
, March 6, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: The new sun rule 6.16

STAFF...Thx. for the explanations...IMO the rule didn't need to be amended since you say it will only be used in "very rare" and "extreme conditions" ...now that you've given the batter a chance to ask for it, I believe they will be asking all the time...I hope that ALL of your field directors are on the same page especially if you are using multiple complexes
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