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June 19, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Verbal Interference and Obstruction

steve.. first, you have interference and obstruction mixed up INT is on offense and OBS is on defense.. I have never seen either called for a player commenting on a pitch during the flight of the ball.. I rarely here the defense say anything besides the catcher sometimes saying nice pitch.. if this bothers the batter then he should ask the umpire to tell him to stop.. if it's the offense doing it then the batter should tell them to shut up... If this is about trying to influence an umpires ball, strike or illegal call then the umpire should call time and tell both managers that this is a rec league and if they or there players wish to make them calls sign up to umpire.. that will usually shut them up.. and if it continues put it in your local rules that this violation would be terms for ejection.. I always tell managers that it's amazing how good they can see the game from the shady dugout and ask if there is room for me...lol hope this helps
June 18, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rule Question

it's ok Dave u r getting older..lol.. and the few months or maybe a yr. that I referred to wasn't for how long ago that the rule was changed.. it was for the length of time that the rule was changed for :)
June 18, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rule Question

Dave, no that's not correct.. I went back thru my old rule books and it was in the 2011/12 rule book pg 64 RULE 8.6 sliding or diving into first base or the scoring plate/line is permitted
June 18, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rule Question

stick.. the rule was changed for I think a few months or maybe a yr? and then I think SSUSA said it was a typo?? that's if I'm remembering it correctly? the only slide allowed now into home would be to avoid a collision from an errant throw to the plate.. also if a runner mistakenly enters the batters box when trying to score he is out.. slide or no slide
June 18, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rule Question

nancy.. the runner would be out "IF" he started his slide before the tag for entering the batters box area ... the tag and touching the strike mat would become a moot point
June 17, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rule Question

the only play the runner would have is to continue on and touch the scoring plate.. and then hope the defense doesn't appeal that he never tagged after the catch
June 15, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: questions to catchers and umpires

if this is tournament ball and the umpire refuses to make that call then get with the UIC or tournament director.. also sometimes during tournament play I have had both teams ask if it was ok for a runner on 3rd to step off the bag when a BIG pull hitter is up.. usually that is determined many times before the tournament starts on whether that will be allowed
June 13, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: questions to catchers and umpires

well i'm glad you know the answer... and please share it
June 12, 2018
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Arthritic Feet

I've been taking Rx meloxicam 15mg for a year now and it has helped a lot.. I use to take at least 4 aleve a day good luck
June 12, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Double or homerun?

OZ... (Thanks Dave, great minds thinking alike!) now that is a scary thought...lol

June 11, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

Tim, lol.. never mind.. you do not seem to want to discuss the wording of the IDB rule.. yes, I understand you would call it on a line drive.. I'll e-mail Dave thx anyway
June 11, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

Tim.. you are 100% correct on that type of play

but an umpire would never invoke the IDB rule on the same scenario on a pop up in the IF that could be caught with ordinary effort.. again..the point I'm trying to make is the wording of the IDB RULE..

please give me a scenario where IDB would ever be called in the 2 scenarios below that you posted and also that are in the rule book.. I cannot think of any??

Runner on 1b & 2b
Runner on 1b, 2b & 3b
June 10, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

Tim, yes I agree it's an IF call and should stay that way..

but above you posted the different ways that you can make a IDB call.. here were 2 of them.. you said runners on 1st and 2nd or bases loaded with less that 2 outs.. I don't understand how could you call IDB in those situations when an IF should be called? No where can I find in SSUSA rules that says that an IF call takes precedence over a IDB ... In ASA it does explain that

that is why I questioned the wording of the IDB rule I posted below..

(first base only, or first base and any other BASE(S), with less than two outs)

shouldn't the any other base(s)just be third base??

otherwise it would be an IF call

1.37 INTENTIONALLY DROPPED FLY BALL
If a fielder intentionally drops, or lets drop, a fair fly ball, including a line drive, that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort with first base only, or first base and any other base(s), with less than two outs, only one recorded out may be made on the play and the ball is dead. This is an umpire's judgment call.



June 10, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

Tim.. scenario.. bases loaded less than 2 outs batter hits a pop up in the infield and fielder is camped under it.. umpire calls IF and then the fielder lets the ball drop to the ground isn't this still the batter is out but the ball is live and runners can advance at their own risk because of the IF call?

or are you saying that the call then changes to IDB dead ball batter out??

I always thought the IDB call was basically to protect the runner at 1st or 1st and 3rd from a fielder intentionally dropping a ball and then turning a double play





June 10, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

HJ.. I cant find in SSUSA where it states that an IF call takes precedence over a intentionally dropped ball.. but we have always gone to ASA for a ruling when it is not specified in SSUSA.. I hope Dave chimes in here.. because I think the wording can be confusing on the IDB call

1.37 INTENTIONALLY DROPPED FLY BALL
If a fielder intentionally drops, or lets drop, a fair fly ball, including a line drive, that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort with first base only, or first base and any other base(s), with less than two outs, only one recorded out may be made on the play and the ball is dead. This is an umpire's judgment call.

Dave.. why does rule say ( or first base and any other BASE(S), with less than two outs) the any other base(s) should only be third?? otherwise it would be an IF call
June 9, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

Chico no problem.. OP is original post.. I thought in your post you were asking if maybe the 1st baseman did something wrong.. so I was explaining the difference between the 2 rules and that he did was legal
June 9, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

Chico..(Maybe 1st baseman did do something wrong)

the difference between the 2 rules is that with a IF call as in OP it's a live ball and sometimes the fielder does not catch the ball.. hoping that the runner will make a mistake and think he has to run.. with the intentionally dropped ball it is a dead ball batter is out if the fielder just lets it fall to the ground to try to double up a runner
June 9, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

I know it's the same in ASA and I think ISA also..
June 9, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

lol... maybe the umpire said it because it's a rule


1.37 INTENTIONALLY DROPPED FLY BALL
If a fielder intentionally drops, or lets drop, a fair fly ball, including a line drive, that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort with first base only, or first base and any other base(s), with less than two outs, only one recorded out may be made on the play and the ball is dead. This is an umpire's judgment call.
June 8, 2018
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Was The ump

The 1st baseman did nothing wrong.. play on
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