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, Dec. 1, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

Since the SSUSA rule book does not really cover specific appeals I looked in the ASA Rules Supplement for an answer... This supplemet to the rule explains how the appeal must be done. It says the appeal must be made prior to the runner returning to first base while the ball is live. If the B/R misses 1st base on the way to 2nd base then a dead ball appeal would be allowed.

L. Missing First Base Before the Throw Arrives.

When a runner passes first base before the throw arrives, they are considered to have touched the base unless properly appealed. On appeals involving the double base, when the batter-runner touches the white rather than the colored portion and a play is made, the same procedure applies. When an appeal is made in both situations, it must be made prior to the runner returning to first base while the ball is live.
, Nov. 29, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

Dave.. your answer below on a DBA is confusing when you say an appeal can be made before the next pitch... you do mean that the DBA still has to be made before the B/R returns to 1st....other wise the appeal is not legal


IF "time" is called before the batter/runner returns to 1st, such as on overrun situation with no intention to advance to 2nd, missing 1st base may result in an out on a dead ball appeal if the appeal made before the next pitch



, Nov. 28, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

Dave, I was wondering if you had time to research the appeal procedure when the B/R misses 1st base but beats the throw .... can the appeal be made until he returns to the bag or can it be made even after he returns to the bag but before the 1st pitch...Thx.
, Nov. 19, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

coop...if im wrong??? it certainly wont be the 1st time...in fact my wife tells me im wrong all the time....hopefully Dave will soon wake from his nap and give us an answer to both of the above questions
, Nov. 18, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

Dave, can you answer the above question of coop and I...whether the appeal has to be made before the runner gets back to 1st or can the appeal be made after runner returns to the bag but before the next pitch....thx.
, Nov. 18, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

B/R is allowed the safety bag and only the safety bag...so if he beats the throw and hits both bags he should be called out...and this is an automatic call...no appeal is needed


, Nov. 18, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: RULEING ON PLAY

once the runners foot is down on or across the line he cannot be tagged for an out and if he is the umpire mechanic is to immediately call the runner safe... so therefore he does not have to follow thru and touch the scoring plate/line
, Nov. 18, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

coop, and for 99% of appeals that is correct...but with a B/R missing 1st base it is before he returns to the bag....also say the runner missed 1st base on going for a double..then the appeal would be before the next pitch
, Nov. 17, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

coop....I'm 100% sure...the defense can only appeal before the runner returns to the bag...once he gets back he has legally attained the bag...so what can they appeal..as far as having time most often it is the catcher or pitcher that see it and they immediately make the appeal in plenty of time. a scenario you are talking about might be a runner going from 1st to 3rd and missing 2nd base....then you have to make the appeal that the runner missed 2nd base before the next pitch
, Nov. 17, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules

hurdler...the B/R "IS" allowed to miss 1st base if he is avoiding a fielder/collision... and should be called safe if in the umpires judgement he beat the throw ....also on a play where the B/R just mistakenly misses the base but beats the throw...the umpires mechanic should be to make a safe call since all runners are assumed to have touched any base they are going to...after passing the bag and the safe call then it becomes the defenses responsibility to appeal that he missed the bag before the B/R returns to the bag...by either a tag of the B/R or by stepping on the bag and making the appeal
, Nov. 9, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EH & DH ??????

NO if he is in the line up he must bat...
, Nov. 5, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: injured player

Dave, can I get a ruling on the injured player rule

scenario...batter injures himself swinging and fouling off the 1st pitch and is unable to continue play..the team is batting 15 and has no subs.. I know that if he was injured running out a base hit he could get a courtesy runner and then be out on just his next turn at bat...but since he never able to complete his turn at bat and was called out would that count as the 1 time or would he be called out again the next time thru the line up Thx.
, Nov. 1, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a catch?

taits....the op said that while lying on the ground he caught the ball ..so he had control... DMAC vouluntry release is only part of the rule, since he didn't release the ball and had control its a catch

1.10 • CATCH
A catch is a legally caught ball that occurs when the fielder catches a batted or thrown ball with his hand(s) or glove and the resulting release of the ball must
be voluntary. NOTE: It is not a catch if a fielder, after he contacts the ball, collides with another player, umpire or a fence, or falls to the ground and loses possession of the ball as a result of the collision or falling to the ground. A ball that strikes anything other than a defensive player while it is in flight, is ruled the same as if it struck the ground. An illegally caught ball occurs when a fielder
catches a batted or thrown ball with anything other than his hand(s) or glove in its proper place.
, Oct. 31, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a catch?

since the fielder had the glove in the proper place at the start of the catch and did not throw it at the ball... and then caught the ball with his hands before before touching the wall or the ground...I would say that it was a legal catch
, Oct. 29, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rule clarification II

stick.....first of all great scenario...I asked about 10 tournament umpires and no one gave the full correct answer...even though it is not totally spelled out in "any" rule book if you read this part of the rule it leads you to the correct call...(b) Any advance or score made because of a ball batted by the improper batter or because of the improper batter's advance to first base as a result of obstruction, an error, walk, or a base hit shall
be nullified.... Since the batter did none of the above... he hit into a fielders choice double play... therefore the play IS NOT NULLIFIED.... the result is 2outs on fielders choice double play then then the 3rd out on managers appeal of batting out of order...no runs score because runners not called out on the play must return to the last base occupied at the time of the pitch...
, Oct. 28, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Running up ????

gary, no its not like girl left handed batters....I see more right handed batters doing it and they do not slap at the ball its a swing...and yes it is legal... 7.3 • BATTING POSITION A. The batter must have at least some portion of both feet on or inside the lines of the batter's box at the start of the pitch. A batter who steps out of the batter’s box at any time during the pitch and then hits the ball, fair or foul, shall be called out. Steps out means touching the ground completely outside of the lines of the batter’s box.
, Oct. 26, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rule clarification II

yes, and that's what I always do but even their rule doesn't explain....you had to go to POE to get an answer
, Oct. 26, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rule clarification II

Garocket....I see what you are saying...earlier after I posted my answer here I posted this scenario on a ASA web site to see what the responses their would be...but with the points of emphasis you posted looks correct...I went by SSUSA rule which says....(b) Any advance or score made because of a ball batted by the improper batter or because of the improper batter's advance to first base as a result of obstruction, an error, walk, or a base hit shall
be nullified. and he actually didn't get a hit it was a fielders choice
, Oct. 26, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rule clarification II

Garocket....you are correct about the runner who scored going back to 3rd...but all runners would return to their bases and any play nullified... there would be 1 out bases loaded....The next batter is the player whose name follows that of the player called out for failing to bat
, Oct. 16, 2016
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Hit by a Batted Ball

Stick....not so...I'm in front of the infielders all the time...especially when umpiring the younger brackets...the 2nd baseman and sometimes 1st baseman play so deep that you would end up in the outfield if you positioned behind them
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