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June 20, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Fly ball catch

I agree with DD on it being a judgment call as is every call.. what I would be focused on is whether the release of the ball from the glove was “voluntary” .. unlike football the ground can cause a fumble in softball

June 19, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Fly ball catch

yes.. read the note part at bottom of CATCH definition

1.10 • CATCH
A catch is a legally caught ball that occurs when the fielder catches a batted or
thrown ball with his hand(s) or glove and the resulting release of the ball must
be voluntary. NOTE: It is not a catch if a fielder, after he contacts the ball,
collides with another player, umpire or a fence, or falls to the ground and loses
possession of the ball as a result of the collision or falling to the ground.
June 14, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: is call obstruction or interference

rob64 .. that is not what the OP was ..

the fielder flubbed/booted the ball and then he backed into the runner while going after the ball .. the runner purposely let the fielder advance in front to field the ball so he didn't interfere and then attempted to run behind him.. In my judgment I would have OBS on the fielder not INT on the runner


June 14, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 5th Run

mck71 ..yes in original post run should have scored..
in your scenario where the B/R does not advance to 1b and enters the dugout.. even if the batter on 1st and 3rd had advanced if the B/R does not touch 1B and enters the dugout he is to be called out and all runners return to the base they were on at the time of the pitch.. no run scores


8.3 • BATTER-RUNNER IS OUT
C. When he fails to advance to first base and enters his team area after a batted fair ball, a base on balls or catcher obstruction.
EFFECT: The ball
is dead, the batter-runner is out and runners return to the base occupied at the time of the pitch unless put out prior to the violation.
June 14, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: is call obstruction or interference

I would have OBS on this play.. the fielder was given the opportunity to make the play but booted it .. he then backed into the runner .. the umpire should signal and give a verbal OBS call and let the play follow thru.. after the play is complete the umpire would then award bases (if any) that he deemed the runner would have made..
June 11, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Commitment line on a tag up.

Donna Thx.. I agree 100%
June 10, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Commitment line on a tag up.

packerman.. in your scenario yes I would have an out .. that is considered a non-verbal appeal .. but in the OP there was no runner trying to return to the bag therefore the defense has to appeal so the umpire knows why they are stepping on the bag .. remember there was also a runner advancing from 1B.. was the SS on the bag and getting down for a tag play??
June 10, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: catch no catch

rob .. no it's not a catch .. also if you were holding your hat in your hand and caught the ball that also would not be a catch
June 9, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: catch no catch

SS on your 2nd scenario I would have an out.. I have seen OF's many times slide to catch a low fly ball and actually corral it in there mid section never touching their glove as well as first baseman catching a short hop thrown ball with their arm pit and then reach over and grab ball showing control before runner reaches 1B for an out.. even though a glove or hand was not used in the actual catch I would have an out..

these above scenarios are why I don't like the wording at the end of the CATCH definition below saying that it's an "ILLEGAL CATCH" if a batted or thrown ball is caught with anything other than his hand(s) or glove in its proper place.


1.10 • CATCH
A catch is a legally caught ball that occurs when the fielder catches a batted or
thrown ball with his hand(s) or glove and the resulting release of the ball must
be voluntary. NOTE: It is not a catch if a fielder, after he contacts the ball,
collides with another player, umpire or a fence, or falls to the ground and loses
possession of the ball as a result of the collision or falling to the ground. A ball
that strikes anything other than a defensive player while it is in flight, is ruled the
same as if it struck the ground.
An illegally caught ball occurs when a fielder catches a batted or thrown ball with anything other than his hand(s) or glove in
its proper place.
June 9, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: catch no catch

SS33 Congrats on 87 in July and I have had the pleasure of knowing you for about 15/20 of those cranky softball years...lol

unfortunately and I "REALLY HATE" to do it but I'm going to have to agree with DD on the no catch.. I'm not a big fan of the wording of the rule since it was changed several years ago.. but for a catch to be determined the fielder must catch and show control and if there is a release of the ball it must be voluntary.. your release of the ball & glove was not voluntary it was ripped off your OLD hand by the force of the hit... c ya at the fields .. BJ
June 9, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Commitment line on a tag up.

packerman.. yes the catch is out #1 .. but the ball being thrown back to 2b and the SS touching the bag .. was it for the runner who is just standing between the CL and the scoring line or did he inadvertently touch the bag to try to make a play on the runner who legally tagged up on 1st and was advancing to 2B?? without having the runner who has left early actually attempting to return to tag you must have a verbal appeal of why you are touching the bag .. if no one on the defense yelled out that the runner on 2nd never tagged up the umpire can't just assume the defense touched the bag for the runner leaving early


June 1, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Verbal Obstruction or Interference

Scott.. With the catcher standing right next to or behind the Umpire I would certainly hope he would know who yelled it..

if it did come from the stands I would have play on
May 28, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Fair or Foul

curveball and franjan.. the ball did not hit anywhere on the bag it hit the runner standing on the bag.. so it would depend on the position of the runner standing on 3B.. MOST runners stand in foul territory and just reach out with their foot to touch the bag .. so if the ball were to hit any part of their body in foul territory it would be a foul ball
May 26, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Verbal Obstruction or Interference

scott.. the catcher has no right to yell foul ball that is the umpires job.. when he yelled it both the batter and the runner on 2B stopped running assuming it was the HP umpire who made the call
May 25, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Verbal Obstruction or Interference


Because with 2 outs the runner took off as soon as the ball was hit .. not waiting to see if the OF could make a catch
May 25, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Verbal Obstruction or Interference

mike14.. I actually had that happen where the catcher had a senior moment and yelled foul and the ball landed right on the line.. I called time and awarded the batter 1B and scored the runner on 2B because there were 2 outs at the time and in my judgment would have scored...
May 20, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Commitment line on a tag up.

fresno.. I agree with DD if the runner had re-crossed the C/L he should immediately be called out .. but the OP said the runner from 2nd just stood near the scoring line after passing the C/L.. As far as making a verbal appeal remember you had a runner who was advancing to 2nd on the tag up .. was the SS trying to get him out?? It doesn't specify in the OP.. is the umpire suppose to just assume what he is doing?
May 19, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Commitment line on a tag up.

bigtimer.. I don't have the runner from 2nd being out until the defense makes an appeal that he left early.. you said the SS touched 2B but you didn't say he made an appeal of the runner leaving early?? If he did then the out
occurs at the time of appeal and the SS touching 2B.. as far as the runner from 1st the base would be open as soon as the runner vacates 2B and touches the next succeeding base ..
May 15, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call.

actually I haven't worked a SPA game in years maybe for a better answer you should post on the SPA website not SSUSA

May 15, 2022
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call.

perl.. you should have waited for him to bat again and if he got a hit then bring it to the umpires attention as batting out of order .. I would not have called him out and not sure how they explained him being out since he actually did not bat again.. If a pitch had been delivered and then you appealed I would have the correct batter that followed the last correct batter take his place at bat and assume the count.. I do agree that they put him last in the line up for the rest of the game
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