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Bill johnson

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Aug. 14, 2019
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: courtesy runner/ batter

Yes that is correct. ..and if he was safe at 3rd he’d be called out and then go up to bat
Aug. 13, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules interpretation

also in 1st ...batting order would go to next batter
Aug. 13, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rules interpretation

1st scenario. Dead ball runner is out... if less than 3 outs batter would be awarded 1st base

2nd...dead ball as soon as it hits the runner unless it had already passed a fielder...runner is out... batter awarded -1st base
Aug. 9, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Correct call

idahoreb.. once the ball enters the dugout it becomes a dead ball.. if the gate was left open by the "defense"
I would just have a dead ball and not allow runners to advance.. if there were no actual gates then read the rule below for different awarded bases depending on whether the OF or IF made the throw and was it the 1st throw or a relay

8.4(10) • WHEN RUNNERS ARE ENTITLED TO ADVANCE
Runners are entitled to advance without liability to be put out:

E.
1. When the first throw is made by an infielder, two bases shall be awarded. The award shall be governed by the position of each runner at the time the pitch was made; however, if all runners, including the
batter-runner, have advanced at least one base when the infielder makes the wild throw, on the first play after a pitch, the award shall be governed by the position of the runners when the wild throw was made.
2. When a throw is made by an outfielder or is the result of any succeeding play or attempted play, the two base award shall be governed by the position of each runner and the last base he has touched at the time the throw was made. If two runners are between the same bases, the award is based on the position of the lead runner.
Aug. 9, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Correct call

grayhitter.. I would have a live ball "IF" he is in the on deck circle... if he is over near the scoring line/plate and is hit near where the catcher is trying to make a play then I could have interference and a dead ball
Aug. 9, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Correct call

there is no penalty to the base runner.. play on.. unless he did some crazy zig-zags into the path of the thrown ball.. as far as the ball then bouncing into the on deck batter and he is standing in the vicinity of the on deck circle/area I still have no call as per your OP he attempted to get out of the way.. very seldom do I penalize the offense for a defensive players bad throw
Aug. 8, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Illegal substitute runner

(We will likely refine this at the National Rules Committee during this year's national convention sessions)

Dave.. no nit picking for me this time .. lol
July 24, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What's your call on a bang-bang play at a base?

wayne... sorry ..I'm lost.. hmmm trying to figure this out...

ground ball is hit to SS or 2B ..so I get set and track the ball with my eyes and I don't move my head???

well first I have to turn my head to see the play being made since I was facing the batter at the pitch .. now that I've turned my head to the right I'm either looking at the SS or 2B make the catch .. and now I'm suppose to track the ball with my eyes back to 1st base without moving my head... wow you have some different style of umpiring, did they teach you this in baseball umpiring school?
July 24, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What's your call on a bang-bang play at a base?

thx. coop
July 23, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What's your call on a bang-bang play at a base?

CDN.. I have never thought of it like that..

when I give a clinic I tell umpires .. get in position and stay low .. FOCUS on the runners foot touching the bag and listen for the catch (you cannot focus on both) .. then take 1 sec. to process what you actually saw and let it get to the brain...(for some that takes longer.. lol) and then make the call and sell it
July 23, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Correct call

wayne... thank you ... you never fail to give the wrong answer on this site and also on the "ask the umpire site .. great job...

read your rules... once a runner "legally" tags up on a fly ball catch and then attempts to advance but then returns to the base it is a tag play

and the reason the umpire would have to assume that the runner scored is because he failed to turn and look to see... what would you do call him out and then say well I didn't look but he was out???

I will agree with you on hiring a 2nd umpire if you don't like the calls being made in a 1 man system
July 22, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Correct call

wow... i didn't want to say this earlier but I agree with mck71 ... the umpire just didn't want to go to extra innings..

here's are a couple of points of interest.. 1st if the umpire had gone out to make the call at 2nd it's definitely a 1 man system.. I don't care how good of an umpire you are it is impossible to see everything ... so this guy must have been "really good" (lol) he was able to see a great ESPN catch in LF , he also saw the runner on 3rd GOING BACK to 3rd to tag up.. and he also at the same time saw the runner from 2nd who ALREADY had tagged and was headed to 3rd .. WOW....

last but not least .. an umpire can't say the run "didn't score" before the 3rd out if he didn't see when the runner actually scored.. you have to assume he was safe and that he scored..

July 22, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Correct call

lb16 is correct..

question...
did the umpire agree that the runner did tag up after the catch and was just returning to 2nd??

because if he didn't see the tag up then he would call the runner out for not tagging up once the ball was thrown to 2nd and the runner was running back .. many times umpires mistakenly consider the runner going back to tag a base a force out which is not correct..

either way the the runner on 3rd scored before the play at 2nd so the run should have counted and now a tie game
July 20, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batter's Box

Dave, please shut this post down and end his incoherent babbling
July 19, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batter's Box

wayne.. I know you mean me.. cuz Dave is only a semi-wanna be expert... lol

well I guess where you come from they do not understand what some portion of both feet must be on or inside the lines of the batter's box at the start of the pitch actually means...

to help you to try to understand this .. the batter only has to be toeing the line.. that means the rest of his foot can be outside of the box at the start of the pitch.. and he must remain in contact with some part of the batters box while hitting the ball
July 18, 2019
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Courtesy runner

coop.. I hope you never end up being the illegal CR because Nancy would be correct in calling you out as soon as you touch the bag.. and she would probably have a BIG smile doing it...lol below is part of rule 8.5 (5)

If a courtesy runner is determined illegal, he will be called out upon touching the base and no other courtesy runner is allowed.

If the umpire misses the immediate call then the defense can still make an appeal up until the 1st pitch to the next batter after they score
July 17, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ruling on Run Down

Dave, no problem, and my apologies also the conversation just got a little heated by both of us trying to make a point

and on your analogy you are 100% correct on the foot having to be "completely" out of the box.. and the rule (7.3) BATTING POSITION that you were speaking of was another rule that had the wording amended several years ago to give that full description of what being out of the box means.. even though Rule 7.6 did already give the same full description

July 16, 2019
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ruling on Run Down

lmao... Dave, just can't let it go huh !!.. well at least this time there is not a "ridiculous amateur-hour" rule that was written !! ...

and Dave it bothered me all afternoon that not only today but in the past we don’t seem to agree on the specific wording of rules

I was working a game early this evening ... young guys ... and there was a close call at first base I called the runner out and the base coach yelled blue it was a tie and ties go to the runner

for some reason right there I realized why we tend to disagree sometimes on the wording of rules.

When I first started as an umpire I went to a few national clinics and many local clinics over my first few years and in every clinic you were basically taught that you are either safe or you’re out .. there are no ties ... a batted ball is either fair or foul and a pitch is either a ball or a strike, legal or illegal. .. all very black-and-white and cut and dry ... so I believe many umpires because of this see calls as either safe or out and batted balls as fair or foul "no gray area"... We also tend to read the rules the same way quite literally..

so when a rule says the runner must touch the bag in FOUL TERRITORY we automatically read it and process it as a runner is not allowed to touch the bag in fair territory because then he can no longer be in foul territory

You being a tournament director and not an umpire apparently do not have that black and white cut and dry approach and do not read the rules as literally as we do
you can just write a rule and assume that when someone reads a rule they will know what you intended to write but didn't!!!
July 16, 2019
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Commitment line

Dave.... wow... I didn't mean to upset you... but... maybe you can explain how can a runner again PER THE OLD RULE ...
UMMM .. "that didn't ever exist"
(the double portion of the bag being in "FOUL TERRITORY" abutting first base. the rule said..If there is a play on a batter-runner going to first base, the batter-runner "MUST TOUCH" the portion of the double bag extending into "FOUL TERRITORY" .. AGAIN there was no mention made of him being able to touch the bag (white) that is LOCATED IN FAIR TERRITORY ...

I can't believe that you actually do not understand how an umpire could end up thinking that way with the way the rule "WAS" worded ....

HMMM well someone must have thought my way because YOU CORRECTED IT and made the rule VERY CLEAR and CONCISE

the only point I'm trying to make is that YES the specific wording of a rule is SOMETIMES necessary and sometimes a NOTE or EXCEPTION can be added to the rule so there is no confusion

July 16, 2019
B.J.
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Commitment line

Dave, it wasn't by accident and Thank You for making my point even clearer

why would anyone writing a rule for softball where you have hundreds of umpires who read and interpret rules differently .. write the rule so that it can't happen .. and then you won't have to amend it for ALL to understand

remember NOT ALL umpires are privy to what goes on and discussed at your rules sessions that you have.. A perfect example was the old rule 8.4 (1) it SPECIFICALLY SAID that the B/R "MUST TOUCH" the portion of the double bag EXTENDING INTO FOUL TERRITORY.. well no part of the white bag is in FOUL TERRITIORY .. that is why the rule was interpreted differently and you ended up making an EASY FIX adding The batter-runner simultaneously touching both portions of the double bag is permitted.
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