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| April 26, 2021 DC 84 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Is Runner Out jl1919, thank you, I would definitely be interested in reading about the several interpretations you were given on the play |
| April 26, 2021 DC 84 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Is Runner Out Thank you again for your response, and there were no defenders near the ball or the runner and yes the closest defensive player near the runner was way off to the side but behind the runner. The way I read the rules you have posted is that there is no scenario where a runner is not called out if he is hit with a batted ball while off the base that passed the pitcher with or without the pitcher touching it and assuming the nearest defender is behind him. I've only been playing senior softball a short time but in my younger playing and sometimes umpiring days in ASA and USSSA if the pitcher got a glove on the ball he was then considered a fielder and it remained a live ball if it hit the runner and the defense could make any play possible. One other thing that confuses me about your rule, it says that if the ball goes off the pitchers glove it remains a LIVE BALL , then the rule gives an EFFECT: The batter is awarded first base, and runners advance one base only if forced with the exception that a runner struck while off base is out. How are bases awarded if the ball remained alive per the rule? §9.1 • DEAD BALL X. When a fair batted ball strikes an umpire or base runner on fair ground before passing or touching an infielder, excluding the pitcher. EXCEPTION: A fair batted ball that deflects off the pitcher's glove remains a live ball. EFFECT: The batter is awarded first base, and runners advance one base only if forced with the exception that a runner struck while off base is out. |
| April 25, 2021 DC 84 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Is Runner Out Dave Dowel, I have read the rule you posted several times and to me the wording is quite confusing. Please tell me if I have this correct, per your rules in both cases the runner is out? from my question #1, if the ball goes off the pitchers glove it's a live ball, and then if the ball hits the runner even though the pitcher stuck out his glove to make a play on the ball he is not considered a fielder that the ball has passed, so therefore the runner is out, Correct? So if it's a live ball and the runner is out then it must become a dead ball once the ball hits the runner because now you have awarded the batter and others runners a base, correct? Question, why isn't the pitcher considered a fielder when he tried to catch the ball? Is he ever considered a fielder? I could understand the runner being out if the ball went by the pitcher with no contact. |
| April 25, 2021 DC 84 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Is Runner Out runners on 1st and 2nd no outs, batter hits a ball up the middle which goes off the pitchers glove and then hits the runner who was advancing to 3rd, 1) is the runner out? 2) does this remain a live ball play on? 3) would the call be different it the ball went off the pitchers leg instead of his glove? |
