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, March 22, 2017
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Get rid of Major +

Point well taken Yank1. But correct me if I'm mistaken but in playing 50 major plus I was under the impression we didn't have to play a qualifier to be eligible for the worlds in Dalton. At least the teams I played on never did.
, March 22, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the only situation where, after the play is over that a "do over" or "mulligan" can be implemented? (at least that I'm aware of)

Wow. That is unreal
, March 22, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the only situation where, after the play is over that a "do over" or "mulligan" can be implemented? (at least that I'm aware of)

Marcster13 was this a SSUSA sanctioned event? I'd be curious to know the justification for the game being played over after it was declared a forfeit and the umpire being shoved by 2 players--with one of players being allowed to play!!
Putting my umpire cap on this sets a dangerous precedent, especially shoving an umpire.
, March 22, 2017
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Get rid of Major +

I have been fortunate to have played 50 major plus 8 of the last 9 years (one year I played 55 major plus). Combining m and m+ wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing but in my experiences it's not an urgent thing. Yes we've played where we're the only plus team and by rule we give up 5 runs or an extra fielder. IMHO, if m and m+ were combined or even if they play as it is now, I'd get rid of the "equalizers" and play straight up ball. HR and runs per inning rule can be modified--perhaps splitting the difference? That would be up for debate. There are some damn good m teams that can compete with the + teams without the equalizers!!

, March 20, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the only situation where, after the play is over that a "do over" or "mulligan" can be implemented? (at least that I'm aware of)

All interesting scenarios!! The one I was told was for coed. If a girl hits a guy's ball by mistake (or vice versa) they can take the result of the at bat or a do over. That being said I've never heard of any senior coed softball anywhere.
Does anyone know if there is?
, March 18, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What is the only situation where, after the play is over that a "do over" or "mulligan" can be implemented? (at least that I'm aware of)

Any guesses? ( I admit up front I didn't know when I was asked and I'm not sure if it applies in senior ball)
, March 18, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Two bases from release of throw or one base from the base last touched

Randall, was that Usian Bolt running!!😀 Seriously, in your scenario if said runner had achieved 2nd before the throw was released by the SS he would indeed get home, presuming the rule BJ posted was the SSUSA rule which I see no reason to believe it isn't. It's a tough call to see for the ump.
If USSSA rules were being played that runner would get third because it's two bases from the time of the pitch on any throw from the infield that goes out of play.

, March 17, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Time out

BJ is correct. Home plate umpire calls time, field umpire doesn't. In reference to the firt post on this thread defensive players can ask for time but it is not automatically granted.
, March 17, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: obstruction

BJ is correct. An offensive player cannot interfere with a defensive player attempting to make play on the ball. It's an umpire judgement call.
, March 17, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: triple play?

Triple play. Runner at second is forced to advance.
, March 17, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Two bases from release of throw or one base from the base last touched

In USSSA any throw from the infield that goes into dead ball territory the runners iget 2 bases from the time of the pitch. On a throw from the outfield its two bases from the time of the throw.
, March 16, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: INTERFERENCE PENALTY

Runner closest to home (third in the scenario) is the second out. If it wasn't then as a runner at first I'd always interfere, therefore scoring a run!!
, Feb. 23, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Batter Throwing a Bat

In USSSA anyone that throws a bat in anger or frustration is automatically ejected. We also have a local bat flip rule. If a player executes an obvious bat flip (meant to show off) the play continues--delayed dead ball signal. Once the play is over the batter is called out but the result of the play stands.
In the scenario described by Steve in Tucson, it happened to me. I was playing with a bum shoulder for part of the season last year. A couple time I accidently flung the bat backwards hitting the catcher and umpire. They were pissed!!! So what I did was carry the bat part of the way down first and then dropped it.
, Feb. 22, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Staying behind the pitching screen

Yes screens are at the discretion of house leagues. The senior league I play in it's an option. If you hit the screen once it's a strike. If you hit the screen again your out. The pitcher can be a fielder but only if part of his body is behind the screen.
Conversely if a screen is not used any ball hit from the pitchers height on down and between the length of the rubber its a dead ball out.
The only way a screen is a hindrance for the defense is on a throw home from the middle of the field. If a throw hits the screen it's still a live ball.
, Feb. 17, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: All you rule experts: Need your input..

BJ again I believe you are incorrect. Page 49 and 50 of 2017 USSSA rule book.
Rule 8. BASERUNNING
Section 12. BASE RUNNERS ARE NOT OUT:

L. When while in contact with the base, the base runner is hit with a fair batted ball unless the umpire rules that the ball was intentionally interfered with, or a fielder interfered with, while attempting to field a batted ball

EFFECT Sec 12 L-M The ball remains live with all runners continuing to be in jeopardy.

, Feb. 14, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: All you rule experts: Need your input..

BJ since the 3rd baseman was deep on the grass it obviously didn't pass thru him. But the scenario states the baserunner was in contact with the bag when he was struck. I cited the rule earlier in the thread. Here it is again:
RULE 8 BASERUNNING
Sec 5. BASERUNNERS ARE OUT under the following cicumstances:
C. When a baserunner is struck by a fair batted ball on
fair ground WHILE OFF HIS BASE and before it
touches a fielder or passes a fielder.
EFFECT. Sec 5 B-E. It is a dead ball immediately and the involved baserunner is out

It's on page 42-43 in the on-line rulebook

http://web.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-general/USSSA_SPRB_17.pdf

I maintain that if said base runner was struck WHILE IN CONTACT WITH THE BAG as in cuda65's scenario and before the ball passes thru or touches a fielder it is a live ball. I and other members of our crew (including some of us who work conference USSSA) have always called it this way.


, Feb. 10, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: All you rule experts: Need your input..

Bottom line: If cuda65's scenario was played under USSSA rules the result would be a live ball being that the runner on third was still in contact with the base. If he was off the base when the ball struck him then it would be a dead ball out since cuda65's scenario clearly indicates the 3rd baseman was playing well behind the runner on 3rd.
If a batted ball passes thru a fielder before it hits a baserunner (whether on or off the base) it's a live ball.
As I stated earlier SSUSA and other associations may have different rules on this.

, Feb. 5, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: All you rule experts: Need your input..

BJ, not sure what rule book that is but here is the 2017 USSSA rule on that:
Sec 2. THE BATTER BECOMES A BATTER-RUNNER INSTANTLY WHEN HE HITS A FAIR BALL.

EFFECT Sec. 2. The batter-runner is in jeopardy immediately:
1) if a fair batted ball strikes the umpire or base runner while off base before passing a fielder, other than the pitcher. The ball is dead immediately and the batter is entitled to first base without liability to be put out.

And also:

Sec 5. BASE RUNNERS ARE OUT under the following circumstances:

C. When a base runner is struck by a fair batted ball on fair ground while off his base and before it touches a fielder or passes a fielder.

If the situation described by cuda65 was in a USSSA game I have a live ball since the runner on third was on the bag when he was struck. Play on.
That being said, I do understand SSUSA and other associations have different rules.


, Feb. 4, 2017
stick8
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Cleats

Not sure if it's still true but last year I saw Adidas turf shoes at Meijers. They had them in black and another multicolor combination. Cost was $82

, Feb. 3, 2017
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: All you rule experts: Need your input..

The play as described by cuda65 is live ball in USSSA. Play on.
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