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| Feb. 17, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Player injured in a rundown. Randall, that’s a tough situation because most anyone with an ounce of sense would stop play and run over to the injured player. You calling time out would be the instinctive thing to do and I don’t believe you’re necessarily wrong but if I was umpiring I would not have called time out. At the risk of sounding cold-hearted the reality is there wouldn’t be an immediate reason for an umpire to call time out on that play. Since players were likely surrounding him (action had stopped) there wouldn’t be a ball hit at him, thrown at him or the risk of him colliding with a defensive player. Even though he’s hurting he’s not in any danger. If the defensive team gathers the ball and tags him I have an out, irregardless if time was called or not. |
| Feb. 15, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Runner hit by fly ball JohnO28 I agree. In tournaments if the pitcher elects to use a screen (if they are the option) and tries to field balls hit to their left or right of the screen then why have a screen? |
| Feb. 13, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire question JohnO28, Ok, Going back to the Tako88 scenario it sounds like that game had only one umpire. And this was the finals of a world tournament! That should never happen. As one who wears both a players hat and umpire hat, umpires should never ask players what they saw on a play. The umpires job is to call the game. Yes there will be tough plays to call but he/ she should use their best judgement. Any umpire who allows players to coerce them into changing a call or making a call does not belong umpiring. |
| Feb. 12, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire question JohnO28, Ok but in both scenarios you have players making rulings. Whether the players were correct or not, or if the call they make goes against them, imho, is really not the issue. Being sporting, honest and acting honorably is very nice and all well and good but where does that leave the umpire? Suppose a player takes a called third strike and argues the pitch was too high? The pitcher and catcher say it was too high. Should the umpire change the call? By doing that and the other scenarios on this thread you’re opening up Pandora’s box. Umpires doing a one man should never ever change their call. In a two man players can always ask the ump for help from his/her partner. |
| Feb. 10, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire question Tako88 not trying to put you on the spot but what reason is it that you would consider DD’s situation unacceptable but your situation acceptable? |
| Feb. 10, 2025 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Umpires reversed call BJ, Ok but I was curious if the base umpire called out the plate umpire (or vice versa) to confer after the fielder pointed to the base umpire to rule. In this case the fielder could have asked the plate umpire to ask his partner for help but the way the scenario was described it wouldn’t have helped them out.. |
| Feb. 6, 2025 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Umpires reversed call I’m curious, did the base umpire initiate their discussion? I agree with BJ. If the home plate ump told the batter he had a foul to waste, he had a foul to waste! |
| Jan. 29, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire question LOL. I know what you mean Double Dee. Pandora’s box is opening up!! |
| Jan. 29, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Foul tip - catch or not SSUSA: foul tip above the batters head that’s caught by catcher—OUT foul tip below batters head that’s caught is a foul ball (not an out) unless it’s a third strike foul, then it’s an out. USSSA, NSA, ONE NATION( (young man ball) any foul tip caught whether it’s above or below the head—OUT |
| Jan. 25, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire question Did the outfielder demonstrate possession of the ball on the catch? Aka: Complete the process Never heard of an umpire asking a fielder if they caught the ball and then changing their call based on their response. That should never happen. I presume the ump in your game was doing a one man. It can be tough to see certain plays in a one man but umps have to do the best they can using their judgement and make the call as they see it. Unfortunately they get it wrong sometimes and they just have to eat it. |
| Jan. 23, 2025 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Injury Senior house leagues normally are under the guise of ISSA,SSUSA or other association rules or if it’s young man’s ball it could be One Nation, USSSA, USA or others. As Dave correctly points out house leagues have latitude to implement their own rules. These rules must be listed on their league rules sheet. If there is no rule for example, supplying a catcher or teams picking up players not on their roster they risk a potentially huge liability if someone gets injured during their game. I’ve seen this happen and it’s not pretty. Bottom line: CYA. cover your a— |
| Dec. 4, 2024 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: You make the call FF, some of the major league rules are a bit different. Did you know an umpire can eject another umpire from the game? |
| Dec. 3, 2024 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: You make the call BJ, One Nation has the same rule you referenced. I posed this to my UIC and according to him any outs during the play count. It’s the same in ssusa as Donna stated earlier. You are correct that the rule book should be more specific on this. Gamer23, you are 100% correct. |
| Dec. 3, 2024 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: You make the call From what I gather it appears most of the softball associations have the same or similar rule on this, as does high school baseball. Believe it or not I’m told Major League Baseball is different. All runners go back to the base they were at at the time of the pitch. Any outs or runs scored are negated. The proper batter is called out and the next batter is up. In my scenario above it would be bases loaded with 1 out. Let’s say a runner is on first with no outs, improper batter comes up and hits into a double play. Manager comes out and protests team bating out of order. MLB rules state runner would go back to first and the proper batter would be called out. Instead of a double play they’d only get 1 out!!! |
| Nov. 30, 2024 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: You make the call Titan and BJ are correct!! |
| Nov. 29, 2024 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: You make the call This happened to me in a high school baseball game back in the spring this year. Bases loaded no outs Batter hits one hopper to third Third baseman throws to second for 1 Relay to first batter runner is safe Play is over. One run in, one out, runners on 1st and 3rd Or is the play over? Manager of defensive team comes out right away and claims runner on first batted out of order. We checked the official book and indeed he did bat out of order. How would you rule on this? |
| Nov. 29, 2024 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Bases loaded, less than 2 outs Dave you might be right if this happened in a senior league. This actually was a men’s league, there’s no commit line. As BJ correctly confirmed, the result of the play was one out. |
| Nov. 25, 2024 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Bases loaded, less than 2 outs 1) Runner going from second to third is OUT. Runner that was on third that never left the bag is not out. Looks like bases loaded, two outs. 2) Double play, inning over Heres one I had several years ago. Men’s league Bases loaded no outs. Batter hits grounder to third. Third baseman fields the ball, steps on third and throws home Catcher catches the throw steps on home and throws back to third Third baseman tags the runner going from second to third. They think they have a triple play. Are they correct? |
| Sept. 19, 2024 stick8 | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Rule interpretation; just for fun!! This is always a tough call for an umpire to make, doing a one man to make, especially in BJ’s scenario. In the scenario from Scott if the batter runner is in the running lane he is not out if a throw home is made from first and hits him. Exception being: crashing into fielder, jumping or throwing body, arms, legs to try and deflect the throw. How I would call it depends on what I see. |
| Sept. 15, 2024 stick8 | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Question about a rule In extra innings if the proper runner cannot start the inning at second base due to injury he cannot get a substitute or courtesy runner. If he is unable to run due to injury it’s an out and the previous batter starts at second base. |
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