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June 6, 2026 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Just wondering on a ruling Mck71 you are correct, my mistake. I overlooked where it said no outs. Had the same situation at the smokies earlier this week. Bases loaded, no outs, fifth run at third. Batter got a base hit to right center. Team was yelling “touch the base touch the base” Right center threw the ball in to me so I stepped on second as the runner from first turned to go to his dugout before getting to second. That would actually be a force out at second. But the 5th run scored so it didn’t much matter.
June 4, 2026 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Just wondering on a ruling In the stated scenario it’s a force out if the umpire is paying attention. Team in the field should notify the ump No run
May 14, 2026 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: 8.4(10) - When Runners are Entitled to Advance 1) Runner must go back and tag first base. (Some associations might be different) 2) Any throw from the outfield that goes out of play is a two base award from the time of the throw—from the runners last legally occupied base. Since your scenario has the runner last legally occupying first base, I have the him going to third.
March 18, 2026 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: foul tip clarification DJ12, The over the batters head rule was removed from young man’s ball a few years ago. It remains in ssusa. Not sure of the other senior associations.
March 12, 2026 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Past Weekend Event in Sacramento SKings24 Allow me to address your points 1) call it a hunch but I suspect most seniors aren’t exactly thrilled to play under the lights. That being said conditions are the same for both teams. That’s softball 2) diamonds that get behind schedule has happened a million times and will continue to happen a million more times. That’s softball 3) scheduling game times is at the discretion of the TD. You can always request a later starting time for play in games if you know some of your team can’t make the early times. Sometimes they can accommodate you, sometimes they can’t. No guarantees. That’s softball. Overall, the concerns you raise—-that’s softball. Let’s play ball. Have a good season!
Feb. 27, 2026 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Runner missing scoring plate JohnO28, let’s say runner on 1st no outs. Batter hits one in the gap. Runner scores but misses second. Batter ends up on third. Going by what you stated the umpire would call the runner who missed second out immediately and the batter out because he “passed” the runner going to third. Thats a new one on me. What you believe is incorrect. As Nancy and BJ correctly stated it’s an appeal play. In my scenario if the defense appealed the runner missing second he would be out, (presuming the umpire saw it), no run and the batter would stay at third. It’s no different if a runner does not touch the second plate or cross the scoring line.
Feb. 2, 2026 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Fair or foul You did!
Feb. 1, 2026 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Requesting an Intentional 3rd out With time limit fast approaching, Team A, down 3 runs, is batting. There are 2 outs. Player B gets a base hit. Before the first pitch to the next batter, Player E goes in to be a courtesy run but had already ran for someone earlier in the inning. Automatic out, 3 outs. If done right, that might be a way to get acteam another inning.
Feb. 1, 2026 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Fair or foul Foul ball! In your scenario it’s where the ball was on the first touch.
Jan. 31, 2026 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Courtesy runners One time I ran for someone and ended up scoring. I batted 3 batters later and got a base hit. The other teams coach claimed I couldn’t run because I already ran that inning. And he was adamant about it! Unreal
Dec. 1, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What is the ruling Moral of the story: in situations as described above and others of the like: Always touch a base
Nov. 26, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching screens for tournament play 2026 JohnO28, Here is the One Nation rule on screens:(from 3 years ago but I think it’s the same) “A game may not commence until both teams either use a screen or do not use a screen. This decision (if screens are available) would be decided at the home plate meeting pre-game. If teams cannot agree the the screen WILL be used” Seems a bit odd to me
Nov. 20, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What is the ruling cw, That’s true, including the umpire. The umpire should have called the batter-runner out as soon as he went into the dugout or area of the dugout.
Nov. 19, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching screens for tournament play 2026 I find it hard to believe that if a team elects to use a screen then the other team must use the screen. It should be optional, never mandatory. The debate is if a screen is used can the pitcher be a fielder? Personally I favor what ISSA does. Pitcher can’t be the first one to touch the ball. At the Smokies back in May I didn’t witness very many screens. Just my $0.02
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Pitching screens for tournament play 2026 JohnO28, I ump for One Nation. I only ump young man’s ball and have never heard of that rule about the screens. In fact I’ve never witnessed any team ever using a screen. Is that a senior rule?
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What’s the Correct Call? That could be a good strategy!!!
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What’s the Correct Call? On an errant throw from an infielder on a ground ball that goes out of play it’s a dead ball, the batter-runner and all runners on base advance two bases from the time of the pitch. In your scenario the runner at second scores, runner at first goes to third and batter-runner goes to second. When I ump it’s all bats & everyone in the dugout except for the on-deck batter and keep the gates closed.
Nov. 18, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What is the ruling Randall, I’d be curious to know what the batter-runner was thinking when he went into the dugout!! Maybe it was one of those “senior moments”?
Oct. 28, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Purposeful Stalling Webbie you make way too much sense!! I was umpiring my last tournament Saturday and saw the coach of that team. I asked him what he was thinking on that strategy. He just shrugged and said “win some, lose some” That about sums it up
Oct. 28, 2025 stick8	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What’s the Correct Call? FOFO, I share Dbax’s sentiment. Perhaps you meant otherwise but are you saying that a runner rounding first possibly looking to go to second is out if he’s impeded by the first baseman?

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