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Sept. 1, 2015
RV
14 posts
rating
We were rated major after winning SPA in Columbus Worlds in 2014.? That was the right thing for them to do,. After the Columbus tournament this year we played as a major,and lost every game by 8-15 runs,.Will b e rerated as triple aaa in both associations, just like they raised us to major
Sept. 1, 2015
SSUSA Staff
2627 posts
Just a casual observation, followed by a suggestion for you to consider ...

Winning the 2014 SPA Nationals and finishing 2nd in the LVSSA/SSUSA World Masters immediately thereafter is unlikely to garner you much sympathy or support for a rating reduction for your team ... Further, the SPA win locked you into an automatic and non-appealable Season at the next higher rating; and
Have you considered preparing and submitting a formal Rating Appeal to request re-classification? ... The forms are available from this web site, but we can assure you no rating adjustments will be made based on SSUSA Message Board commentary, due to it's anonymous (like you) nature and generally unverifiable content ... The next SSUSA rating cycle will be after the LVSSA/SSUSA World Masters Championships this month and next ...

Good luck!

Sept. 1, 2015
wagon487
Men's 55
580 posts
So winning the big SPA tourney, you get an automatic bump up.
If that is the case, why aren't they invited to the TOC?
Sept. 1, 2015
SSUSA Staff
2627 posts
Because invitations to the SSUSA's Original Tournament of Champions in Polk County, FL, in February are extended only to the winners of SSUSA sanctioned Regional Championships (those designated as TOC Qualifiers), the SSUSA Eastern and Western Nationals, the SSUSA National Championship Games, the LVSSA/SSUSA World Masters Championships, the ISA Winter Nationals and Senior Worlds, the Canadian SPN National Championships, the All-Japan Champion Cup International Tourney and all 80+ and 85+ year old teams ...

SPA winners are not on the eligible tournaments list, nor are ISSA, Huntsman Games, etc ...

Sept. 1, 2015
So Cal Z
Men's 50
40 posts
Staff if that's true, how did a player from Rawlings get re-rated this year after winning SPA. Just a question....
Sept. 1, 2015
So Cal Z
Men's 50
40 posts
The team won SPA, I believe went undefeated and still he was able to get re-rated
Sept. 1, 2015
SSUSA Staff
2627 posts
The team you are mentioning had a peculiar merged roster for the 2014 SPA event, and you may not be fully informed about the circumstances ... If you have a specific inquiry about a specific team and/or player, send an email with your question(s) to george@seniorsoftball.com or call the office and talk with Tiffany or George ... Be prepared to ID both the player and yourself in any written or verbal contact you make ... We don't "do" this on the Message Board ... Thanks ...
Sept. 1, 2015
garyheifner
545 posts
I can see why you might be moved up for a 2nd place at Vegas. However, I was told by a high source several years ago that SSUSA didn't care about what happens in SPA, so it should not have had anything to do with your SSUSA rating.
Sept. 2, 2015
So Cal Z
Men's 50
40 posts
Staff I have contacted George "off the board" and no response, I will be more than happy to contact you and have no problem letting you know who I am or who the player is. Thank you for your response.
Sept. 2, 2015
SSUSA Staff
2627 posts
Gary ... Here's an excerpt from the TEAM RATINGS Guidelines & Procedures Priority Message on the Message Board ...

Here are the guidelines for teams winning the LVSSA/SSUSA World Masters Championships, the ISA Senior Worlds, the SPA National Championships:

1. Teams winning in a division of 6 or more teams and may not appeal their rating increase in [the following Season].
2. Teams winning in a division of 3-5 teams and may appeal their rating increase in [the following Season] after playing in three (3) tournaments.
3. Teams winning in a division of 2 teams will not be moved up.
4. SSUSA reserves the right NOT to move a team up if there is a preponderance of information showing the team should remain in the original skill level.
___________

This is the reciprocity agreement between the three associations regarding rating increases for their World/National Champions ...

Sept. 3, 2015
smooth01
Men's 50
128 posts
PREPONDERANCE ??
How about plain english .
Sept. 4, 2015
SSUSA Staff
2627 posts
Definition of PREPONDERANCE 1: a superiority in weight, power, importance, or strength / 2: a superiority or excess in number or quantity ... [We sort of apologize for using unfamiliar terms in the guidelines!]
Sept. 7, 2015
Stretch14
Men's 50
202 posts
Yuk
Feb. 3, 2016
cyborg45
Men's 70
175 posts
SSUSA. No need to apologize for superior verbal and writing skills.
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