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, Dec. 16, 2017
Jon44
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Intentional Walk

The first two guys hit right on it-- it was either to piss someone off (the message sent still makes no sense) or the hitter hits middle and possibly buzzed the tower earlier in the game or has that reputation. Did he intentionally (point to first) put him on or was it the unintentional intentional walk (throw 4 pitches out of the zone badly)? I am assuming from your wording he pointed him over before the first pitch. If it's the latter, maybe he was hoping the guy would chase something to not walk and hit a bad pitch. I see that in young guy softball often-- egos too big to walk so they swing at a crap pitch and get themselves out.

As stated, you never put anyone on (especially lead off) with a lead-- you make them earn it. Nobody bats 1000.
, Dec. 14, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Batting Practice Balls-- Evil BP balls (orange/white) vs Tattoo NX3 Balls (green/yellow)

I am posting this to possibly help someone that was in my position about 2 months ago when considering which BP ball to buy or if they were even worth it to buy. I hit with a small group of senior players a couple times a week and we wanted to try BP balls to possibly extend the life of our bats (both balls advertise they accomplish this) and hit balls that stay decent for a longer period of time (water proof, more durable balls).

Our setup is pretty basic-- we use a blue flame pitching device. I purchased 2 dozen Evil balls and 1 dozen NX3 balls. We hit about 10-15 feet behind the plate on symmetrical 300' softball fields. We live in high desert conditions (low humidity) and hit in temps between high 40's to 60 degrees this time of the year. Both balls work great with both blue flame device.

The first impression of the NX3 ball is that it feels different. There are fake seams/solid 1 piece and it feels a bit heavier than the Evil ball. The evil ball feels like a normal ball with a cover and stitches, etc.

Both balls hit great. They are fun to hit, they respond well (hit better than the stote but not as good as a rock). The multi-colored balls really give you good feedback. It seems like we hit more knuckleballs than with normal balls, but that could be because it's much easier to see when you do that because of the colors.

With regards to durability of the ball, I like the solid 1 piece construction of the NX3. The evil ball gets chewed up a bit after hitting the fence or rocks. You notice the outer cover getting cut up, which is normal for a ball with a cover. We have hit the balls well over 1000 times each and the NX3 looks pretty much the same, while the evil balls have the cover holes/tears, although it still hits the same as when we first got them. The evil ball sounds better off the bat and both fly.

With regards to extending the life of the bat, I am unsure about this. I broke a big cat last week hitting these balls and I am still nervous to pull out good bats during this time of the year. My feeling is that these are probably less stressful on bats, but the fact we are crazy enough to hit sub 50 degrees offsets that a bit (we are kind of asking for trouble hitting in these temperatures). If you think you can hit BP balls and never break your bat, you are wrong. For this reason I will not pull out my addidas 12" bats, which I use in tournaments.

The real benefit I see is these balls hold up really well when hitting on wet fields. Normal balls get waterlogged and deteriorate after being hit a bunch. You don't have those problems with these balls, which is a big deal because it's often wet where we hit from fields getting watered a lot. Not hitting cold, waterlogged regular balls definitely saves bats.

I am curious what others have experienced. Also, I hope this helps someone on the fence about whether buying these BP balls is worth it or not. Big thumbs up on both, especially if you hit on wet fields.
, Dec. 13, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Results

As mentioned, this topic comes up over and over again. Recently, Dave mentioned there was a serious evaluation of Quickscores and that there might be something coming from those discussions. I believe there were things to work out (bracketing for 3rd guaranteed game, etc) before anything could come from it.

I am pushing the "I Believe" button on this and believe Senior Softball Management is trying to sort this out. There has been countless threads on the topic, so I know they know we (consumers of this great product) consider this an important topic.

Let's see what comes of it. Hopefully some announcement soon.
, Dec. 10, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Bat Shelf-- Who Has One?

I am considering pulling the trigger on a bat shelf mod that will hopefully turn my large sagging/worthless middle compartment Easton 5 tool back pack into something useful. I have seen the DeMarini shelfing system and it's quite impressive. Are there others out there that have the custom shelves in their bags and have some feedback before I formally spend the money?
, Dec. 8, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Results of the SCSSA 7th annual Toys for Kids Tournament

It was a well run tournament and a lot of fun to play in. Thanks for putting together quality events like this. Perris BLD is a fun place to play as well. I spoke with your granddaughters a bit while they were circulating the petition. They worked hard all weekend, as did the entire staff. Thanks again Marv
, Dec. 5, 2017
Jon44
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA Convention Minutes

My interest is solely better performance in heat/humidity. I played in SoCal Championships in hot weather last year and the ball was a major disappointment due to unseasonably hotter/humid conditions.

I do not believe I have hit this new ball in a tourney, so I wanted to know how it performed when compared to the ones we have it (last years stote and the rock). I am perfectly fine with last years stote under normal conditions. I am just glad we will not have a repeat of what happened last year when the ball clearly under-performed at this particular tournament.

Thanks for the clarification and the willingness to listen/observe what's really going on out there.
, Dec. 4, 2017
Jon44
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA Convention Minutes

I did see this-- first off, really happy they are changing the ball to something better in the heat/humidity. This is a very positive thing and shows they listen to feedback, which is all we can really ask for.

In the opinion of some of you more experienced senior players, how would you compare this new ball to the Rock? Is it closer to the Rock than the stote ball used last year and previous years in non-Vegas tourneys?
, Nov. 26, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1 and 1 count

Fingers-crossed it passes... thanks for the clarification.
, Nov. 26, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1 and 1 count

Seen spirited arguments for it and against the 1-1 count in this thread, but for me it comes down for the increased probability that the game will go the full 7 innings, which also increases my chance for 1 additional at bat per game. I am all in favor of potentially 1 more at bat per game. I like that the 1-1 count was experimented with in the 40's AAA division at worlds this year-- maybe we could consider 50's and 55's also experiment with it this year since they seem to be the age groups most wanting to adopt this. Is that a possibility?




, Nov. 22, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 1 and 1 count

Totally agree with crusher23 on the courtesy runner abuse. With that said, it's not fat Joe's fault he's overweight-- he is just big-boned (sorry Joe-- just telling it like it is). Cleaning up the courtesy runner abuse somehow will help a lot. The runner is never ready, there is constant confusion in the dug out deciding who should run, and teams call time to figure it all out, which wastes a lot of time.

I also like the 1-1 count. I play a lot of young men softball still, and when I go up when there is 1-1 in play, I go up ready to hit and not taking a strike because I don't want to fall behind and have to hit a pitchers pitch. I see many senior players taking until they get a strike. This is a hitters game, and going to 1-1 count will have more people ready to hit when they get in the box. Just my opinion.


, Nov. 2, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Evil B.P. 52+ Softballs

Sorry--- a little more on this--- I accept the fact that bats will still crack hitting these balls. I just am curious what others are experiencing when hitting them-- are they getting 5X more swings than hitting regular game balls before a bat cracks? If that's the case, I am willing to hit better bats throughout the year when hitting in batting practice. If it's generally only 2X more swings or less hitting these balls before a bat cracks, I probably will keep the game bats in the bag still.

I understand there are all kinds of variables and mileage may differ based on these factors (weather, size of the hitter/how violent the swing is, etc). I am just looking for others general experiences.
, Nov. 1, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Evil B.P. 52+ Softballs

Doerbaum-- appreciate the feedback.

Is it also your experience that the claim that they are better for the bat is true? Do you think you would feel confident pulling a gamer bat for BP without total fear I would crack it? Currently, I get a bat or two I like broken in (currently a Melee 12 and a Wicked) then put them away and hit other bats in BP with normal balls. I, like you, hit 2-3X a week, and a gamer bat never comes out of my bag. I know there are no guarantees, but with these balls would I feel more confident to hit my good bats with less worry that I might crack it?
, Oct. 31, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Evil B.P. 52+ Softballs

I have recently purchased both the Evil BP ball and the Tattoo NX3 BP ball. Both are in transit and I am excited to start hitting them when they get here.

My question is this-- both manufacturers claim that hitting these balls for BP does less damage to the composite bats, which sounds very appealing. I know there are a lot of variables that come into play (temperature, etc), but could anyone who hits these balls now for BP be willing to share how many more swings they get hitting these balls instead of the Stote, Rock, or any other game ball? Are we talking 2X more swings? 5X?

Are there any other potential draw backs to hitting these balls? Does it feel different due to them being lighter (are they lighter?)? I am not looking for more manufacturer on manufacturer crime (as seen above), but honest feedback from regular people hitting the balls so I know whether or not I want to hit my game bats more in BP with less worry of breakage, which I really want to do.
, Oct. 31, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Bats
Discussion: worth wicked

I got mine at the Huntsman tourney in Saint George. They were selling them for $170 at the tournament. That same local store is selling them still to this day for $170. It's a good bat. With regards to it being manufactured in China, at this point I just accept everything mass production like this probably is made in China and that's just the way it is. Everything so far with the bat is great, but I wonder about it's durability-- I haven't seen too much on that yet from people. I only have about 300 swings on it.
, Oct. 10, 2017
Jon44
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pitching machine

The blue flame is awesome- we did make one modification. We have put a small spacer under the front two stakes lifting the front a bit to provide a true arc. Previous to doing this the pitch was great to hit, but flatter than we normally see in a tourney (at least ours was). This small 1" pvc spacer really helped out a bunch.

A friend just found one at his local walmart and paid under $25 for the blue flame pitching machine, which is unreal ($179 usually). It was on clearance for some reason. I am not saying you will be as lucky as he was, but if you happen to be in a local walmart, it wouldn't hurt to go check the sporting goods section... you might have a pleasant surprise waiting for you.
, Oct. 10, 2017
Jon44
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: The Rock.

Are we contractually obligated to use the Stote for all tourneys outside of Vegas? It's been mentioned time and time again that in high heat and humidity that ball is a bowl of oatmeal. It absolutely does not hold up in the heat. I am not advocating for the rock or any other ball, but am I the only one who sees that the stote ball is no fun to hit when it's really hot? Is it something that is evaluated often? There are other balls (Baden fire, Dudley, many others). Does SSUSA look at them? I am sure there is a great answer- apologize if I previously missed it.
, Oct. 10, 2017
Jon44
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Huntsman Schedule

Just an update on Quick Scores-- Huntsman is currently playing their seed games for 60-65 bracket teams. They all played their first two seed games last night and scores have already been posted online for those games. They get posted almost immediately after the games are completed and can easily be checked.


, Oct. 9, 2017
Jon44
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: The Rock.

The rock is by far the hottest ball as people have mentioned. Ball comes off the bat faster and guys can hit it easily 10-15 feet further. I personally feel the potential for injury is higher because of this, but I love hitting that ball so I will never complain when I see a tourney use them (especially the local SoCal Tourneys as mentioned above). The normal stote ball gets so mushy in hot weather it's like hitting a marshmallow during the dog days of summer. Local players call the Rock the "Viagra" ball because it enhances performance. If you want to feel like a major league player, hit a bag of rocks during BP.

, Oct. 4, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Women's softball
Discussion: WHY DID YOU ALL PUT THE WOMEN TEAMS AT HOLLYWOOD PARK?

I want to clarify a bit my comments a bit since bits and pieces have been used to make a point I don't totally agree with.

1) Hollywood is a good park after the recent changes. Bathrooms are on premise, clean, and very convenient. Fields have been upgraded.
2) It was not good that the cash box was stolen. It was done by a couple of high school kids who get out of school and walk through the park. Keep your valuables close to you, especially when school lets out and the parade of students walk through and you will have no issues
3) At no point did I feel unsafe there personally. Hollywood is in a considerably safer area than Lorenzi, BLD, and others in my opinion (I live in LV)
4) Every one of these parks have issues with things taken from cars. Just be smart and you won't have issues.

I was trying to make a positive comment about how Hollywood has improved and no longer is the joke venue of the tournament, but adding the cash box comment distracted some folks. If personal safety is an issue, Hollywood is just fine and much better than other locations. If you are just bummed you didn't get to play at BLD, no one can help you.
, Oct. 4, 2017
Jon44
Topic: Women's softball
Discussion: DAVE & BENJI4 READ WHAT OTHER WOMEN TEAMS THINK ABOUT THIS PARK.

I was the original poster of the cash box theft comment. This is fact did happen at Hollywood (spring worlds this year), but ultimately it was just a couple of High School punks who just got out of school nearby that thought they could get away with it. A couple senior players chased one of them down and he was taken away in a patrol car. It was nothing that would have made me feel unsafe personally and it happened in the middle of the day when the kids just got out of school.

The hollywood park neighborhood is not really a problem. In fact, I live here in Vegas and it's a much better neighborhood than BLD, Lorenzi and others. I would feel much safer at Hollywood and shadow rock than many other places seniors play. The advice about locking your car and leaving valuables out of site is good advice for any of the parks because it can happen anywhere you play.

I have seen so many comments over the years about field conditions and people upset they don't get to play at BLD, etc. The truth is all the fields have improved. Shadow rock is looking better, Hollywood has a new look (way better than before), and all are playable. This sounds like past comments (men and women) who feel slighted they are not scheduled to play at BLD or haven't played there in a while, but then again I am not a woman and not familiar with all of their concerns and challenges feeling safe.

Let's be happy we can be a part of such a great tourney no matter where we are assigned to play.
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