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May 3, 2004
49 posts
Brickyard Classic
How does the comercial go: $250 for the tournament, $103 for the airplane, $66 for the rooms, the experience PRICELESS!!
Tim and his crew fought cold, rainy weather aall weekend, but ran a wonderful tournament. The complex was super, as were the umpires and the staff at the complex. This the fourth tournament we have been to and it ranks number one in terms of more than exceeding our expectations. We, of the Kansas City Masters, enjoyed our stay and want to let those of you who were not in attendance know this is tournament to put on your schedule for next year. Thanks Tim
May 3, 2004
stig 52
Men's 50
46 posts
This tournament needs to go to a 3 day format. Scheduling could have been better. We played a 7:30am, 2:30pm and 8:30pm game on Sa and we were the last game to finish on Sun. that should not happen in an all round robin tournament. Also why have a rule book if you don't use it. We had 1-1 count with no extra foul, 53ft pitchers rubber(no box), 50 min time limit play on more inning, last inning flip, all divisions home runs are double. In the 50 division there were three divisions with six teams in each, Major plus/major, AAA, and AA but all had the same home run rule. This tournament was designed to get the games in as fast as possible. The facility is great and with all the rain most tournaments would have been rained out. A lot of teams did not play on Sun. This tournament needs to be played by senior rules and over three or more days.
May 3, 2004
Men's 70
31 posts
I agree that the tourament was very well run considering the terrible weather they had to deal with. However, it would be nice to if they would follow the rules of their sanctioning organization.
Specifically the 1-1 rule, no home run rule and increase the time limit for elimination games.
Thanks for an otherwise great tournament, Tim.
May 4, 2004
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
828 posts
Considering the weather, I think everything went fairly well.
Tim had two other diamonds, and they cancelled on him
Wednesday night. That complex was not as nice and
probably would not have held up to the weather. He did
not feel like he had a lot of options; so the national office
suggested the 1-1 count to speed things up. In the past
we have used a 0-0 count with 55 minutes. Since he had
advertised two days, he did not feel that he could change
that. Next year it will be three days. This would mean
Fridays for the more senior divisions. I had homeruns as
doubles as it was not strictly divided into AA, AAA, etc,
and since the team ratings are not always accurate, this
would take away any advantage of a misrating too low and
not penalize any AA teams that hit one. One team in
particular is always shown as AA, and they insist every
tournament that they are Major, and I agree. Homeruns
have been doubles every year. I think that Tim did an
excellent job despite the sudden loss of two diamonds
and the weather. I would like to thank Tim, the grounds
crew, Amanda, the umpires, and the teams. I especially
appreciate Tim having multiple brackets because as you
know when we travel that there are not usually that many
awards. Indy FOG took third in our bracket, and we would
like to congratulate Blue Chips on their win.
May 4, 2004
Men's 60
23 posts
Would someone please post the results of the 50 and 55 divisions.
May 5, 2004
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
828 posts
I am on a business trip, but I will post them when I return next week. I believe in the 50s that it was for the three divisions: Pine Knob, Jackson Merchants, and Blue Chips. I think in the 55s that the winners were KC Masters and Indy Masters (affectionately known as the Weavers here). If I am wrong on any of these, please speak up. Also on the rule concerns, since this was a qualifier, this is why we had the tournament rules sheet. Most were regular SSWC rules, but I wanted to make sure that the umpires as well as teams had a short reference. For rule books, they will apply to nationals and regionals. I know in our travels we have seen all kinds of deviations in both SSWC and SPA qualifiers such as one home run and then all singles all the way to unlimited home runs. Hopefully when we get to the nationals, all teams will be classified correctly, and the rule books will be followed exactly.
May 5, 2004
Men's 60
23 posts
RL Bondy won one of the 55 divisions.
May 6, 2004
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
828 posts
E, thanks. I am pretty sure on the 50s, but I should have stopped there. Without the results in hand, my memory is about as bad as anyone else's. I know that Indy Masters celebrated like they had won. Of course I always tease them that they are a drinking team with a softball problem. They are my favorite local 55 team. I was very pleased on the turnout with the 55s because I know that we have been to a few tournaments where there were just not enough 55s to have their own bracket. I am not sure why. Weaver has put together a good, strong team, and I wish them the best of luck.
May 6, 2004
49 posts
Nancy, In the A pool at the Brickyard Classic the Kansas City Masters beat the Dayton Legends to win. KCM was 5-0, Dayton was 4-1. I don't know the order of finish for the other 4 teams, sorry.
May 10, 2004
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
828 posts
OK all sorry for guessing. Here are the top two teams in each bracket.
50s Bracket 1
1st Pine Knob
2nd Dixon Softball/Indiana Legends
50s Bracket 2
1st Jackson/Midwest Floors
2nd Dayton Legends
50s Bracket 3
1st Chicago Blue Chips
2nd Metro/Boogies/Coors Light
55s Bracket 1
1st KC Masters
2nd Dayton Legends
55s Bracket 2
1st RL Bondy
2nd Indy Masters
60s Bracket 1
1st American Metal Recycling
2nd Budlite Michaels
60s Bracket 2
1st Bill Estes
2nd Chicago Classic White
1st Millers 65
2nd Louisville Iceman
I have not had a chance to sit down and figure out below 2nd, but I have the entire results if anyone has a question. I hope to see you all somewhere soon.
May 14, 2004
Legends 11
44 posts
While I apprecriate this tournament I have to voice my complaint. We Dayton Legends played our 1st game at 9:30am after a 2 hr drive and then to find out that our next game was not scheduled until 10:45pm a 12 hour break, as a tournament director myself, I was dumbfounded, I can't believe that any team would have a 12 break before their 2nd game, while others had played 3-4 games before our 2nd one, then on top of that the team that we were suppossed to play forfeited to us, so we played a total of 3 games (2) forfeits. Spent over 1200.00 for Hotels rooms for 3 games, I hope next year that "WE" have a better draw and that we get to play more then 1 game a day and don't have to wait 12 hrs in between. Legends 11
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