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| Aug. 22, 2020 HSquared Men's 60 147 posts | Division Split(s) Just curious… Last years’ 2019 Worlds for the 55 Majors, had 36 teams. How were the National and American Pods split (determined) for the three-game-guarantee bracket play? And does this process (determination) apply to any and all large (entry) tourneys? |
| Aug. 22, 2020 DaveDowell Men's 70 4318 posts | HSquared ... It's done through my proprietary scheduling system software ... Here's a brief overview of a 2-pod system ... • The system takes all entrants in a division and sorts them alphabetically both by state and team name ... The teams are then split by state equally (±1 team) into the two pods ... Example: If there are six Texas teams, three will end up in each pod ... • The system then analyzes the East vs. West composition in each pod and adjusts those for balance without disturbing the "same-state" balance ratios ... • The system then suggests East v. West seeding pool play match-ups in an attempt to have all teams play teams they seldom, if ever, play during the season ... The only exception is force-feeding specific games for the USA National Championships, if applicable ... BTW, all of this is done on a numbers only basis ... The team names are overlaid as the LAST step in the process, which is the first time I see actual game pairings by team names ... This eliminates any question of bias on "who plays whom" ... Hope that makes some sense! |
| Aug. 23, 2020 DieselDan Men's 75 602 posts | And done HSquared with lots of coffee, during the day time anyways. |
| Aug. 23, 2020 HSquared Men's 60 147 posts | Thanks Dave (and u2 DieselDan for your added tidbit). I guess my curiosity has to do with bracket assignment, more so than pool play. Assuming 14 teams go 1 and 1, what determines which team(s) go into the American Pod vs. the National Pod? And what is meant by "balance ratios"? Thanks again..... Just trying to learn a little here. |
| Aug. 23, 2020 DaveDowell Men's 70 4318 posts | If there are only 14 teams, and they ALL go "1-1" in pool play, the normal tie-breakers apply since this isn't a large enough bracket to require seeding pods ... [1] Head-to-head (irrelevant with everyone 1-1) ... [2] Aggregate runs ALLOWED in all games ... [3] Aggregate RUN DIFFERENTIAL in all games ... [4] Coin toss ... In the 2019 55-Major (36-team division) I seem to remember there were 16 teams who went 1-1 in Seeding, with ten teams at 2-0 and ten more at 0-2 ... There was a USA National game, so those two got the top two seeds (#1 in American Pod and #1 in National Pod) and the others were lined up #3 through #36 and assigned to the two bracket pods in a serpentine-draft order ... #3 to American, #4-5 to National, #6-7 to American and so forth through #36 ... The two 18-team pods played out independently until Championship Sunday where they were merged and crossover bracketing through the Championship game took place ... A little hint: Don't over-think this! ... You only have to do two things to win a large World Championship bracket ... One you can control, but is really difficult (Play at or very close to your team's potential for an extended number of games against very good opponents) and the other one you have no control over (catch that one "lucky break" you need that turns a game your way ... I think of the World Series "dribbler" by the Giants a few years back that became a double as it bounced off the 3rd base bag and trickled barely into the outfield grass behind SS) Last Q: ... By "balance ratios", I meant when teams may get shuffled a bit for East/West equality, I make sure not to move teams that would upset the "balance ratios" of state divisions ... If we have, say three Texas teams in each pod like my above example said, I won't move one Texas team to the other pod for East/West balance because that would result in a 4:2 ratio of Texas teams in the pods rather than the 3:3 ratio ... Good luck and have fun! ... |
| Aug. 23, 2020 HSquared Men's 60 147 posts | Thanks Dave. I am certainly more educated now. |
