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Discussion: 1st Amendment

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Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
We have the right to speak
on this forum as long as we don't
disparage.
- Inappropriate language
- Disparaging comments directed toward any individual
- Promotion for other senior softball organizations
- Advertising for commercial products, services or websites

The website is to discuss matters that are from and of the community
and that serve the community.
This forum is a place where
problems occur and resolutions
should appear.
Leave us to talk about matters
of concern to us senior players
of the senior softball community.
Dave?
You said Terry is big on the 1st
Amendment and doesn't like censorship
as long as we stay within the guidelines.
How can we resolve a problem that
came up on the website as part of it's
dynamic without having the website
to work it out.
This is a community issue
and let us have the opportunity
to work it out.
Nov. 24
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
A misguided attempt to invoke the First Amendment. SSUSA owns this site, they can allow and disallow anything they so choose.

Your children had First Amendment rights too. How many times did you let them drop the F bomb in your home when they were little?
Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
Kevin.
The issue between us
is of and from
the senior softball community.
You disparaged me
as I did you.
Let's settle it like men
and concerned members of our community.
It's really up to you.
Nov. 24
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
Like men??????

Funny, gump. What are you going to do, cuss him out via email? VERY manly. LMFAO

Hey, at least for the moment you dropped our stupid use of the First Amendment.
Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
You know if Dirty Gary's on you
you've gotta be on the right track.
Thanks, Gary.
Keep up the good work.

This is our issue,
a community issue irrespective
of any other concerns and it must be
and should be dealt with by us
all of us, together.
We've all been assaulted by any of the attacks made on any of us
by any one of us (myself included)
and we can
and need to handle our issues,
ourselves.
Even Dirty Gary is defined as himself
which shows a manly accountability
and in his way, is of us and
is dealt with by us.

Nov. 24
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
"on you" how?

By pointing out your far less than manly way of taking things off the board?

Or by pointing out your horrendous attempt to apply the First Amendment?

Though I do agree with you regarding handling issues. Your methods are a bit out there, but the concept is correct.

Way to go, gump!
Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
Gary, your hysterical.
And keep up the good work.

Many of us on the website
have experienced and been assaulted
by things you've said, Kevin has said
and I have said.
These are our matters
and are best handled by us
for all the best and right reasons.
I don't want to get involved with law suits with/from you, Kevin
or anyone else.
A waste of time at best
and can do a ton of damage
to senior softball and our community.
So, let's keep our business
even your "messy" business, Gary
here and figure out how best to move
down the road, better together.
We have lots of legitimate issues
before us that still need our attention
and resolve before next year begins.
Nov. 24
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
gump (as you are proving again), when did I EVER mention a lawsuit? Please don't make up anymore than you must deem absolutely necessary.
Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
Thanks, Gary.
You're priceless.
Nov. 24
wagon487
Men's 55
578 posts
Dirty, please say something nice for once. not everything is a fight. no matter what the issue, you have to disagree. i'll bet that can be tiresome in life. take a deep breath, and repeat, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. if the local kids hit a ball in your yard, do you give it back?
it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
one e hug coming up!
Nov. 24
hitt2

353 posts
Wagon 487/ Einstein
When we ignore the non tournament player he disappears.
Just DON'T RESPOND it isn't worth it. Einstein you know I don't always agree with you on your topics. Keep posting I know the ball player you are as witnessed by many of us in Nor Cal. Paco He look Like Einstein it not hard to find him on the field and at tourneys. Everyone has the right to say what on your mind but DON'T DON'T get hooked by Dirty's game.
Hitts2
Nov. 24
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
gump, you say you want to engage in dialogue with people yet you never answer simple and direct questions.

wagon, your post is very shortsighted and narrow minded. My only fight is with who a LOT of people on here have issues with. The one-trick pony himself, gump.

hitt, he might be a good ballplayer but I know the "man" as witnesses by numerous vile, vulgar, and filthy emails. What exactly is my "game"? To call out gump's stupidity?

By the way, where does it say this is a 3-team bracket, buy your own rings, tournament only player senior board?
Nov. 24
stick8

1992 posts
Remember, you have the right to speak but you don't have the right to be heard
Nov. 24
#19
Men's 70
302 posts
It takes a worried man to sing a worried song...

It's amusing how bullies act when confronted.
Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
You're clueless, Bob
but it's not stopped you, before.
A lot of damage will come for both sides
as well as for the community
if this proceeds any further
as any smart and caring
person would know.
Caring about people, Bob,
is not the sign of a bully.
Not caring, is.
And we'll all see who steps up
to the plate and who doesn't.
Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
And Gary, you're just priceless
for providing attention to someone,
anyone who's doing something positive.
Thanks, and keep up the good work.
Nov. 24
Stretch14
Men's 50
202 posts
If you have a problem with somebody on this board, get the phone number or the email of that person and deal with him or her that way. Quit taking up space on this board. We all know we need good balls and bats.
Nov. 24
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
It's a community issue Stretch
because someone who dares to stand up
for seniors,
challenging Associations,
and corporate interests
who are in conflict about serving us and their needs simultaneously
can be singled out and punished
by those with big pockets
and a lot to lose.
It's also a 1st Amendment right
to free speech issue which
is every citizen's concern.
Nov. 25
Dirty
Men's 50
1371 posts
This has NOTHING to do with the First Amendment, you moron!
Nov. 25
tattooball

774 posts
Your first amendment rights does not include lieing to harm people and businesses for your own agenda. You need to read your emails to me about how you lied to help rip-it and others, there are 3 from you that admit that. The recent nasty and threatining emails are even better.
Nov. 25
#19
Men's 70
302 posts
You are little more than a bully, Rinaldi... You care about yourself and little else... And now you're running for the high grass... Ever heard of Karma???
Nov. 25
einstein
Men's 50
3112 posts
Being as honest as I could be to you
and showing my vulnerability
was a gesture on my part to show you
I meant you no real harm.
I never worked for Rip-it,
or any other bat company or competitor
of yours.
Not now or ever.
I support products I think are good
for me and my senior buddies.
I say what I say fundamentally
from my own experience
as a senior softball player and member
of the senior softball community.

We got involved in a nasty set of exchanges that I initiated
which I deeply regret but your defamation and threats to me
are a matter of record, emails, too.
And I will be protected by the 1st Amendment as much as you are.

I've said you are a good man
and a terrific business man
doing your best to care for your company
and family and provide
the best products you can given
many variables and problems in senior ball.

I need a new bat and I'm gonna go with a yellow Macenko when I get around
to buying one.
You're ball, the micro-cell ball
we used is Vegas was lively and more than acceptable to us and for us
and I would endorse it
across the board.
We can disagree about the future
of senior ball or what seniors want/need now to continue to invest
and want to invest in the sport.
That could/should be positive
and helpful to all.

Again, I'm sorry for hurting you
personally above all and
have no problem supporting you
and your products now and forever
as we all move forward together
in senior ball.
Nov. 25
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3233 posts
That sounds like a sincere apology to me.
I hope everyone involved can let it go, even those not involved.
Nov. 25
tattooball

774 posts
Yes it does along with the many he has sent in the past only to repete his unlawful libelist post's shortly after.
Nov. 25
BruceinGa
Men's 70
3233 posts
I hope this will put an end to it. I'm sure almost everyone here has lost interest.
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