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Discussion: stealing

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Jan. 15
Gary Heifner

248 posts
Just wonder about others take on this proposed possibility of allowing stealing. Once it is in one association, it could spread. I play outfield, but catch on occassion. I would bet that at least 8-10 times a game, a pitched ball hits the edge of the mat and shoots off to the side in a manner the catcher can't possibily get it. I would sure hate to lose a national championship because my pitcher hits the edge of a raised mat thus allowing 4 or 5 x-tra runs to score. I don't like it!!!
Jan. 15
Fred

45 posts
ISA has always allowed base stealing. I have played in several of their tournaments with the youngsters and in the ISA senior worlds in Vegas two years ago. I personally don't like it at all and think that it takes away form the game, especially at the senior level. Your catcher better be very mobile behind the plate because he/she will work their behinds off. I guess that I'm very much a traditionalist when it comes to screwing with the game too much. In the early 80's they made some changes in to the game in the interest of "safety". The bases were moved from 60' to 65'. The pitchers rubber was moved from 45' to 50'. Metal cleats were banned. Great rule changes at the time. I've been playing this game that we all love for over 35 years now and think that we ought to leave it alone. Every one that walks on the field knows that there is always that possibility of injury of one kind or another. Well, I've kind of gotten off track here. NO BASE STEALING. That's my two bits worth.

Fred
Pastimers 50
Seattle
Jan. 16
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
I for one would not mind , even tho i do not have the speed, BUT if the plans go through with the bases also being moved again back to 70 feet, i think it wouls add some new dimention to the game but it like baseball then. Also at the movement allowing the bats that were banned to come back. This also provides moving the pitchers mound to the 55 foot mark. One reason I think the 6 foot pitchers box is now incorporated in some places.
True the catches as well as the pitcher would have to be ever alert but I wonder if the wild throw to first would allow for the the advancement or a dead ball ruleing. In that frame of mind what about balks...lol. And when can he take the lead off, before or after it's released or ball hits the ground? Lots of questions to be resolved...
Jan. 16
Bat-Heater
Men's 50
64 posts
stealing...please no. Not for SP
Jan. 16
Airbosn
Men's 70
329 posts
Absolutely...YES. Need to liven the game up a notch. Additionally, I do not like the liberal runner rule. Heck if you can bat and field then run for yourself. IMO
Jan. 16
Fred

45 posts
The runner cannot attempt a steal until the pitched ball crosses the plate. The runner can at that point lead off. This is just another thing for the umpires to get screwed up. The bottom line is that not that many bases are ever stolen at this age level given the lack of speed of most senior players. It adds about as much excitement to the game as watching a strawberry heal. Leave the game alone. NO STEALING!! No moving the bases any farther back. Pity some of the poor third basemen that can barely throw the ball to first with the bases at their current 65' setting.
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