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Aug. 8, 2010
Men's 50
570 posts
USSSA WORLD TOURNEY played at Maumee.
No Senior Bats ,Classic M Ball.Competitve division (M & M+) allowed 7 hrs. REC, Div (AAA & AA) 3 hrs and one up. Very well run tourney and those that could hit HR's hit them.Bats and Balls were no factor.

Windy City beat OKI for the 50 Comp.

Doug and DONs beat Motown for the 50 REC.

Line drive beat PACE (NY) for 55 Comp.

Don't know any of the remaining results
Aug. 8, 2010
24 posts
The fields were good, the game times were set where the tournament did not get behind schedule. Have to disagree about the bats not being a factor. Balls were coming off the bats just like the senior bats.
Aug. 8, 2010
Men's 50
570 posts
Swampy, that's what I meant.Good bat ball combo.No need for senior bats.
Aug. 9, 2010
Men's 55
183 posts
I guess we can agree to disagree.
The tournament WAS very well run. The complex was indeed nice.
The umpires were good overall. No major problems.

As far as the bats and balls,
Here's where we disagree.

The home run was NOT a factor in this tournament. Not even close. My team played five games and there was ONE home run between the teams.
Even the normal home run hitters weren't hitting them out.
The ball wasn't coming off he bat like senior bats.

The wind was a huge factor. 20-30 mph winds both days. Most of the very few home runs I witnessed were wind aided.
Many of the outfielders were only playing about 250 ft. The fences were 305 ft. and 10-12 ft. high.

The bat/ball combo was AVERAGE at best. This 40 core ball produced a huge amount of knuckle balls.

The 70 foot bases also played a large impact on this tournament. This was much more of a singles and doubles tournament than anything else.

Might be OK for a change, but a steady diet of it would be hard to swallow.

When I see men who normally hit the ball with authority and power who usually take full hard swings, cutting down their swings, going the other way or UP THE MIDDLE and totally changing what they normally do. This tells me
something is different or wrong.

Also, if I was a betting man, I'd wager there were some altered USSSA approved bats being used. Just a guess.

Aug. 10, 2010
Men's 55
412 posts
I think the tournment was well run with the proper time limits, very good umpiring 70 foot bases fields nice could have been watered every third game or so they got pretty rough in the middle of the day.

I saw plenty of homeruns in the tourney so I and A133 must have been watching different games.

On the note of altered bats I believe there may have been some but I also believe there is about the same when senior bats are allowed. Whats wrong with hitting to all parts of the field?

I also saw a lot of great defense from outfielders and infielders that maybe we would not have got to see with the ultra or combats. The scores seemed to be in the high teens and twenties so I would say the bat and ball combo was pretty good.

Just my thoughts and congrats to all that participated as I saw a lot of old friends and meet new ones and that is what senior ball is really about.

Aug. 10, 2010
Men's 50
202 posts
Altered bats are going to be around for a long time.
Aug. 10, 2010
mad dog
Men's 65
4174 posts
butch what ball was used,was it the classic +(52-275) or the classic M (40-325).
with the + you prolly would see balls hit out.
also altered bats don't mean crap with the 52-275 ball,its a way to combat them,one of the many reasons the ball was made,along with safety.
Aug. 11, 2010
Men's 50
174 posts
Butch you put on a hitting clinic my man.Way to go!Big fun playing you guys in the finals.
And you and I are in agreement.I saw plenty of homeruns too.I know we hit our limit each game and we don't have what you would call "homerun hitters".
Aug. 11, 2010
Men's 55
412 posts
mad dog,

I think it was the m 40 core ball.

SLOBALL1 Thank you for the compliment and you guys deserved to win. Had fun and not only do you have a good team you guys are a class act and I cant wait to do it again.

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