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Discussion: Player Ratings

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Aug. 13, 2017
BarryJark
Men's 60
5 posts
Player Ratings
I understand the team rating system completely. But I do not understand the player rating system.

To illustrate, let me use a hypothetical example:

At the conclusion of the season, Team A, a moderately successful 55 Major team, cuts 5 players in favor of adding 5 new, younger, better players. These 5 players that have been cut from their team have no other option to play 55 Major ball in their area.

What are their options for playing the next season? Can they play 55 AAA? (which properly matches their skill level anyway) Can they start a new 55 AAA team?
Aug. 13, 2017
SSUSA Staff
3491 posts
Barry ... The SSUSA does not rate players ... However, we do keep track of the rating level(s) of the teams that individual players play with ... In your "hypothetical" example, those players departing the 55-Major team could play 55-AAA, but not all on the same team ... A 55-AAA team may not have more than three players with 55-Major experience histories during the current and the two immediately previous Seasons ... As such, those five would not be permitted to start a "new" 55-AAA team ... That "new" team would be 55-Major initially ...

If this is more than a theoretical/hypothetical situation, please call the Sacramento Home Office at (916) 326.5303 during normal business hours on the Left Coast and discuss the situation with one of the rating specialists there ... Be prepared to talk about the specific team(s) and player(s) involved ... Good luck! ...

Aug. 13, 2017
BarryJark
Men's 60
5 posts
Thank you. That is helpful. I understand the "three players with 55-Major experience histories" rule.

But to carry the example one step further, what happens when there is only 1 55 AAA team in the area? And maybe that team already has 3 players with Major experience?

I would just hate to see players get shut out and not be able to play.

Note this is an example and does not involve any players from my team. Thank you for the quick response.
Aug. 14, 2017
STL0
Men's 60
231 posts
Barry: I have direct experience with the situation you used as an example. All I can say is that there was a lot of discussion between me and SSUSA over a period of a few months and they listened to what I had to say (as well as others) and a solution was worked out. I think you'll see most of Staff's comments state that they want you to call and discuss issues like these which makes sense because they are unique and complex so they can't just say here is how it works for everyone in general. I believe that they try to be reasonable while still maintaining the integrity of team/player ratings.

I lost a season of playing while this was being worked out but at least I'm able to play again and enjoying the 2017 season.
Aug. 14, 2017
BarryJark
Men's 60
5 posts
Thanks STL0. It is good to hear feedback from others.

I agree that SSUSA generally does a good job managing this stuff. It is hard to have a "one size fits all" policy and still keep everybody happy while maintaining competitive balance. However, it does seem that this policy tends to penalize the players and teams from small geographic areas where there are very few teams which makes player movement between teams more difficult.

I thought about just calling SSUSA in the beginning instead of using this forum. But as a fairly new coach I wanted to hear feedback from others.
Aug. 17, 2017
txnighttrain
120 posts
The rule book should be changed from 3 higher ranked players to 3 one level higher players. The way the rule book actually reads, 3 majors could play on a AA team, but we all know that is not permitted. Policy needs to match rule book.
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