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Discussion: Eye Shield on a Pitching or Fielding Mask

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Jan. 20, 2020
USAMTZ
Men's 55
20 posts
Eye Shield on a Pitching or Fielding Mask
Last weekend at the Top Gun in AZ an umpire on day 2 told me that I had to remove my polarized shield from my Worth Pitching Mask/Helmet. I asked why? And, I was told that "it is illegal and not allowed". I asked as of when? Then I was told "Starting this year!"

I read through the minutes of the December 2019 Meeting and I do not see any mention of anything pertaining to masks and/or eye protection and I have used this same polarized shield in SSUSA since 2012.

This makes no sense why he would say this, already tough at times wearing a mask and not having a visor to knock down the sun and remove glare. Plus, many players play in sunglasses, so what would be the difference?

BTW - I have never seen or had this umpire before.


Am I missing something here? Has anyone else heard of this? I thought the point is to use equipment to make things safer to keep us on the field and playing.

G
Jan. 20, 2020
DaveDowell
Men's 70
4318 posts
It appears highly likely you were victimized by a "..let's make it up on the fly, as we go, totally uninformed umpire.." ... Not sure I can make it any more clear than that ... Please accept our apologies ...
Jan. 20, 2020
USAMTZ
Men's 55
20 posts
Thanks Dave. I was hoping that is all it was.

Take Care, Glen
Jan. 20, 2020
Omar Khayyam
1357 posts
How bizarre! I have experienced teams incorrectly complaining to the ump that something was not allowable (uniform, large glove, no knee guard, pitching too far back at 56 feet, etc.) but why would a team complain about a pitcher dealing with sun in his face? Because they didn't think of it? And if it wasn't a team complaining, trying to trick the umpire, what possible umpire would independently call a player on such a thing and then make up a rule? Dave's suggestion of "totally uninformed" makes some sense, but usually an ump will cover himself with that only when he is on the spot after accepting some team's bogus complaint.
Jan. 21, 2020
BH44
Men's 50
74 posts
The only I time I have seen teams complain about a pitcher wearing a shield on their helmet is when it is mirrored and the sun at that time of the day is reflecting off back at the batter.
Jan. 21, 2020
USAMTZ
Men's 55
20 posts
Omar, The other team had nothing to do with it. It was odd, game was starting and I was walking to the rubber with my helmet under my arm. The umpire(who I had never seen before) walked toward me and told me that I had to remove it! I hadn't even put it on, thrown 1 warm up pitch, etc.

The other team was totally unaware, in fact as a courtesy I approached the opposing manager and asked him if it would bother them. He said "you having a visor will not be a factor in us winning or losing this game, I am ok with it"

In 8 years of playing SSUSA, I have never heard of anyone complaining about visors, that is why I was stumped about him saying it was a new rule this year.

Oh well, hopefully in the future this guy can just stick to calling the game and nothing else.
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