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Larry Horn

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Lake Oswego, OR

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Men's 60

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April 18, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Not sure what this is saying, but.......

Perhaps the league of 4 is known to be upper level players, teams coming in that are more like tournament teams, causing lower level players to feel overwhelmed.

Stick, you are stuck with what rules they have. But, majority rules! Senior bats are in associations where you were previously "stuck" without them! Things change. Once again, the majority ruled.
April 17, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Survey

tait, I'm sure we've crossed pathes in the past. You know Phil fron SLO? We're not playing in Reno this year. How bout' Vegas, you playing here?
April 17, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Not sure what this is saying, but.......

1. I think ASA is trying to keep up.
2. From the areas I've plaed in, if you played ASA bats and balls and SSUSA bats and balls in 2 different leagues in the same town at the same time, the ASA park would be empty. Once again, not saying it's the way to go, just saying the way it is.
3. I think Senior bats w/screen would be far more popular than ASA wo/screen.
4. I still don't have enough info to guess why there's 10 one way and 4 the other way in Ohio. It wouldn't be that way on the "left coast".
April 17, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Not sure what this is saying, but.......

Stick,that's not the point I was making. Just his sample was too small, not knowing all the demographics, player quality, league rules, park dimensions, and everything else that gets one to play in a certain league. I gave him facts on the 2011 worlds in a couple of Associations, and stated what other Associations have done for their tourneys based on the popularity of Senior bats. Just facts. I'm not pushing for either in this post.

The answer is NO to your question about dwindling down to 39 teams. But likewise,how many mre teams do you think will be in Burlington this ear with them?
Also, your vast majority of those that will still play without them sure don't support Gary19's dream tournament from the old days, which has dwindled down from the largest to a mere 39 in all age groups.
You are correct on one thing,no matter what the rules or the equipment, guys still want to compete and will do so no matter what. Back it all the way up, to the early 60's for me, back to 16", bare hand, wooden bat; great game and we loved the competition.(damn those Chicago guys!!! lol) We didn't need any fancy field or equipment, but we loved the fun........guess it's what you spoil youself with.
April 16, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Not sure what this is saying, but.......

Tells me your sampling is to small and in a non-hotbed of Senior Softball. Look at the entire picture, on the national scope, where the majority of the serious contend. Last year for an example, in Phoenix at the SSUSA Worlds, 337 teams using Senior bats. At the ASA Worlds in Burlington, 39 teams using non Senior bats. SINCE, ASA has gone to Senior bats! There may be a message there.
I think there is now room for you to start a 60's friendly association. Back to the game as you like it, and profits in your pocket to boot! Now that ASA has followed The Huntsman Games and SSWS in allowing Senior bats, you'd have the only game in town. If you are sincere in your conviction, give all the purists a place to come and establish a "pure" World Champion. You could probably raise a vast amount of seed money right here from those who wholeheartdly support your endeavors.
April 4, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Bats
Discussion: GSC Bats

Saddlebrookrick----I agree with you, not fair to blame lack of partisipation on the bats. I've played in several large leagues, to a man, NEVER saw or heard any complaint about Senior bats, let alone not playing because of them. By complaint, I'm referring to "hotness", not other things like the life span of the bats. Quite the contrary; saw a revolt when one league suggested they be banned. That revolt also included the lower division players. I think you'd find lots more aren't playing anymore because of 1. lack of $$$$ and the increase cost of play and travel, 2. lost interest because of being misrated(can't compete where SSUSA rated them, so lost the desire, ook the level playing field away), and 3. change in mindset as one ages. (the less avid just plain got tired!).
March 29, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Mesquite Mistake?

Mesquite is just has poor facilities for senior softball. I think thet (SSUSA) were betting on the come, that the huge new complex was going to be built. It never happened and players are now stuck with horrible dimension fields.

Candy is correct, the older guys really get hosed playing with such large outfields, way too far to chase gppers.

Tate22 and Jarwood: although I may agree with you on combining the upper two in younger age groups, I don't think that works in the older guys. Take 65 for example, there are NO Major teams that can even compete with Omen. Hell, the teams in + can't even do it! They won in Mesquite over the 2nd place team, about 45 to around 18 in 2 games. That 2nd place team is typical of the top of the Major Division, most other Major teams are weaker. Combining those 2 at 65 I don't think would work.
March 20, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: To the BOD of USA

Webbie, he's not going to NM. Another member offered him air fare, motel, and spending money to go to (CA or FL?) to pitch batting practice to guys with non "special" bats. I thought it was a good offer being it was winter and you get an all expense paid trip to a sunny and warm part of our country. He didn't accept that offer either. It was in a thread about "special bats" I believe.
March 18, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Why give an award if it doesn't reflect outcome

You missed my question. Because you are so critical of todays tournament prizes, or lack of them, what tournaments did you play in back in the day and name some of them with the prizes you won. How were they different back then from todays gifts of jackets, caps, gear bags, gloves, metals, and patches.
March 18, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Why give an award if it doesn't reflect outcome

Gary, what awards from the 70's and 80's that you earned would be good examples of how Associations (businesses) take care of their customers. Which major tournaments do you remember going to that gave the best awards? Which of these awards if any are you still using?
March 15, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Grey Ultra 2 bat

Only in my opinion, the salesman told you wrong! The grey UII has 1/2 the endload the red one has. Neither the red nor the grey last as long as the black one from what I've seen.
I assume by grey you are not talking about a bat they made a few years back, he UII Legacy. It is also grey and will last a lot longer than other UII's.
March 15, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Reebok Melee

rightj1, I hate to go against you, but he doesn't have to play the game nor even get to the average player stage to mouth off. He's already a hall of fame member in the mouth piece category. Would be voted at the top of the most hated list in the class of 2011 one would expect. You may be correct about the talent, or lack of it, and certainly not on the "team player" all star team. Doubt he is sought after as a player, those that have seen him play give a thumbs down. Leave him alone, one could pray he'll go away!
March 8, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Do you own a Worth Mayhem BFG Softball Glove?

Seniorman was asking in May of 2010!!! Very old thread.
Feb. 28, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Giving 5 runs to "inferior" teams

Sounds like the host team knew the players you added and were afraid they may not win their own fundraiser. Never liked the 5 run rule, but one would think your team "equalized" the situation of adding players by doing so with older players that did not change the balance in the bracket.
We had a similar situation happen when a player in another age group that didn't have anything to do with our bracket ran his mouth to the tournament director about 2 players we had picked up, I guess out of being jealous or peraps being vindictive towards our 2 pick-ups. Results were the same as yours, except we didn't win a game. One of our pick-ups was coming off open heart surgery, the other just off cancer treatment, both just trying to get "back in the saddle."
Sounds like your host like ours, did a poor job in judgement. And, then next year will wonder why certain teams didn't come back.
Feb. 22, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: ssusa & umpires, u make the call

100% of all visiting teams. Any sub placed in the game when teams are at bat in inning #2 or later.
Both occur without bastardized or "wacky" rules, and, would be realized by the majority of non-bastardized players. These situations have been around since softball inception.
Feb. 14, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Something I doubt you know about Congress.

I do not put Nobama in the best of very many categories, perhaps lies and socialistic push maybe. Best of a bad lot!!! Even if he's in favor of turning us into a Europe???? I don't see any other candidates expressing those disasterous views. I'd take any other person running(and that would include Gary's favorite squeeze, the former Alaska Gov., Sarah Palin, she won't lead us down the path of socialism at least), Nobama is the bottom of the barrel. He's not a leader and is taking us down the drain. If you are in favor or socialism or are on the govt handout program, or maybe one of the 49% that don't pay any taxes at all, your vote will help continue the flush of Armerica as the it slides down the drain under Nobama.

He has no clue!!!! He has no positive economic program for the USA. He's been an embarrassment for our nation. Wasted spending. No budget cuts where needed. Just continues with socialist issues.
Feb. 7, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Something I doubt you know about Congress.

4 years ago you had Pelosi just 2 ticks away! I'd take "Gary's dingbat" as a lover, a team mate, or as my Commander-in-Chief LONG before I'd take the highest ranking female Socialist and another embarrassment to the USA like her boss.

Hindsight is 20/20. McCain wouldn't have had to have been very effective to have been an improvement over where this clown has taken us. Not a leader at all.
Jan. 31, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Reeb ok bats

I think it's your bat tg. Doesn't matter if it's cracked, you bought it, it's your property! What didn't they like about your receipt?
Jan. 27, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rosters

6-7 years ago that senerio would have made the Mavericks less of a "woopin boy" and allowed one more player to partisipate.

Moving forward to today, picking up a player from another roster, many states away, doesn't add any players to the pool, won't give guys without a place to play a team to go to, the rule will keep some teams home because the field will be even more unlevel.

There is such a small pool of Major+ players, lumping the best of them on one group is not going to promote good competition. Major+ division numbers will suffer.
Jan. 25, 2012
Bomber #7
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rosters

donll, some of the best players in the country are picked up for specific tourneys when there own team isn't playing for example.(could be for all tourneys other than SSUSA for example) The team that picks them up doesn't drop anyone. They just insert him into the #4 hole, win the tourney, and send him back cross many states where he plays again with his own team till called on again. This created no extra players. Now, other teams could do the same thing with other players from that group that isn't in the tournament, but the majority can't afford that kind of expense to get a ballplayer travel expenses that would be needed.
The pick ups are usually "TOP OF THE LINE" individuals, the recognised studs of the sport who happen to be quite a bit better than most, not just better by the slightest bit.
If you have the best team in the nation. And you add the best HR hitter in your age group in the nation to your clean up position, did you improve? Yup. Did you create any more ballplayers for other teams to help them? Nope.
I think most of these are a lot higher budget teams than you imagine. They are the elite that further distance themselves from the rest of the field.
It further makes the playing field unlevel.
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