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Nancy Allen

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, May 25, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Got It Wrong - Loudoun VA

B.J., thank you. I already knew that I could not change anyone's opinion. I think the rule books are all fine as they stand. This hardly ever occurs, and all of the information is there if used correctly. You are right, and I admire pull and place hitters too. My dear Coachie's natural swing was to the left side, but he always placed the ball on the right instead. Crackerjack06 had probably the finest point on this about umpires not knowing rules or showing disrespect to players and coaches. The first could be helped by umpires attending clinics or having discussions with each other on situations or rules. Disrespect is an entirely different matter.

Yes, I have heard the joke swinging bunt when the ball ends up in front of the plate. If someone finds it in an actual rule book, I owe them an adult beverage and some good softball discussion.

Nancy
, May 25, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Got It Wrong - Loudoun VA

Gentlemen, thank you for validating for me again that there is nothing that a person with experience can say to change someone's mind on what I call heart rules because people have beliefs that are stronger than the facts. So a few more comments and you are more than welcome to argue with me if it happens on my field. I am very approachable. You are more than welcome to call me if you want to continue this discussion. Umpire clinics are valuable for helping understand these types of situations. Perhaps you could attend one and ask about this.

There is no such thing as a swinging bunt. Bunts are when the batter squares up and does not swing the bat. A half swing is not defined. This is true in any slow pitch rules that I have ever dealt with which includes probably anything that you could name. A slap hitter is a very smart and talented batter. I wish that I could have seen both situations, but from the descriptions both sound like a slap hitter. There are not very many of them, but they have a special talent and should not be penalized for that. I admire their skill.

That all being said in both slow and fast pitch breaking the wrists is used as a guideline for umpires. Guideline means that you will never find that language in a rule book, nor does it need to be there. Remember that a full swing is not defined, nor does it need to be (except for people who do not understand what a bunt is). Most of us use both entire arms in a swing. Very few of us have mastered slap hitting, but there is always someone in a game that thinks this is cheating somehow. I will think of you and smile fondly the next time that I have one on my field.

Have good games. Enjoy your season. Play like every at bat is your last because at our age it could be.

Nancy
, May 24, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Umpire Got It Wrong - Loudoun VA

Crackerjack06, I am sorry about how the umpires reacted. This falls into the category that I call heart rules because some people get really upset and cannot understand the scenario. I usually stay away from these discussions because I know that there is nothing that I can say to change the person's opinion. However, your last post had some inconsistencies that send up a red flag. What you describe as a girls' bunted ball is not quite correct. That is a person squaring up and not swinging the bat. This would be an immediate dead ball out in slow pitch. In my 30 years of softball, I have never seen a truly chopped ball although I have seen some desperate 2 strike swings that came close. What I am reading is about a perfect slap hitter. I admire them because they place the ball well and get on a lot. You will notice in discussions that a full swing is not defined. A batter can turn over their wrists, and it is a swing. Not many people can develop this batting skill, and often people playing against them get mad about it. You are correct that they often walk a little which is fine if they do not step completely out of the box. All the ones that I have seen stayed in. I think that it would almost impossible to walk on a bunt. Remember they square up and don't swing the bat. Bunts are not judged by the distance that they travel. 63 feet is probably much further than a bunt travels even men's fast pitch which I have watched here.

You are right about Tim being an awesome director.

Have a great season.

Nancy
, May 9, 2017
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Team rating Question?

Having run a team before, I can offer some advice. If you are a coach, and this applies to your team, call George, and give him details. If you are a random coach, player, or bystander, I would keep it to myself or only talk about with your local buddies. Speculating in a public forum on social media often has volatile results. Good luck wherever you play.
, Dec. 5, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

Since the parks here play Utrip, I know that even they eliminated the extra foul a couple of years ago.
, Dec. 5, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Sad news from Indy...Phil Grimpe

Mel, thanks. I have been out of town and had not heard this. I looked up the link to his obituary if anyone wants it. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/indystar/obituary.aspx?n=phillip-arthur-grimpe&pid=182972834&fhid=11921 Phil started playing 45s at Metro with Coachie right after he moved here and was on our senior team for a while. He also mowed grass for Coachie at the park. I am glad to see that you are still beating the odds and always look forward to seeing you.
, Aug. 17, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Retirement Ceremony?

I have never seen a retirement ceremony but have seen celebrations of life, marriage proposals, and weddings on the diamond. Relevant items were placed on home plate, first base, or the outfield depending on the event. I have had requests that I have honored before for me to ring up a player on strike 3 or to eject them posthumously. Either of those might be appropriate for retirement. I wish them well. Just have fun with it. I am sure that it would mean a lot to all involved.
, May 1, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

titanhd, they worked on the fields after the 1:00 AM finish and have been working like zombies all week. We did look in the small garage for anything like that. They don't have squeegees but use some kind of absorbent pillows. All of that equipment is in the big barn across the parking lot. The grounds crew took a couple of hours to rest until the diamonds were firm enough to support dragging. I hear the equipment doing diamonds between games now. Sorry, I am really proud of them for all that they have done on a challenging five days. I wish you the best of luck in your games. I compliment your team and the others for great play this weekend.
, April 30, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

Sparky.1, all games are being played right now. The grounds crew, TD Tim, and the umpires are the best. What a great bunch of games. Wish you were here.
, April 29, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

Hi, Rich. I just checked the umpire schedule that Tony gave me, and he doesn't have you on it, but if history repeats itself, there may be some opportunities to get some games in.
, April 28, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

I just found out that it's National Superhero Day. The grounds crew, Tim, and the umpires are mine on this day of honoring them. Even American Ninja Warriors delayed filming last night because of the storms. Of course my number one superhero is Coachie who loved senior softball so much.
, April 28, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

17black, you know that softball and the players are always in my prayers. I firmly believe that Midwest has the best grounds crew in the U.S. Teams are playing right now, and we were smoked by severe storms last night and this morning. I doubt that we would be playing at most parks, but the grounds crew attacked those fields, and they are in pretty good shape, definitely feel good, and everyone looks and sounds happy.
, April 27, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

Neck10, I see that you requested diamond 3. ;-)
I hope to get downtown and watch you compete in American Ninja Warrior. Best of luck to you in anything that you do compete in this week, my friend.
, April 27, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking to join 55 team in Indiana

You might want to come down and visit the Brickyard this weekend. Some of the finest 55 teams in the Midwest will be playing. I really enjoyed watching your championship game in Columbus.
, April 22, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

Rich, that is awesome. I look forward to seeing you. It never hurts to be able to write the mileage off when traveling to tournaments or rooms.
, April 21, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

Neck10, American Ninja Warrior is filming on the Circle next week. I checked, and they have no gates. Are you competing?
, April 21, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

Neck10, I talked with Butch this morning and told him that the gate on Diamond 3 is still the same in case you needed to contact Dave about not wanting to be scheduled on that field. The good thing is that your umpire that day will not be working this year. I saw your good friend, John, down in Columbus last weekend.

The gate is closed, and the balls still go through...especially on a wild throw from the shortstop.
, April 21, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Invitational

Rich, were you interested in officiating any games this year? I know that you mentioned it last year. Thanks.
, March 31, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: coaches touching a runner

Gary, there is no guarantee that an umpire knows the rules, but a HR is a dead ball situation. There should be no issue in hit and sit, but in baseball for instance, the ball is dead, and an appeal on touching a base should be the only rally killer.
, March 25, 2016
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Another Goodbye

Sometimes the saddest part of senior softball is that we are at the end of our years. Thank you, Terry, for letting us know about our friend, Don Stratton. I am very fortunate to have shared some really good memories with him over the last couple of years. I know he is in Heaven getting the players organized. I am sure that Coachie already has him playing on a team. My prayers go out to his family, friends, and all of us that he left behind. Always live, and play like it's your last day on Earth.
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