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Don Angle
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Men's 75

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June 16, 2025
Don5
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Back foot out rule

Thanks Kim for the explanation, my copy of the 2023-2024 Rulebook doesn't have the wording "stepping out of all the other contiguous lines surrounding the plate."

My book simply states in 7.3, "A batter who steps out of the batter’s box at any time during the pitch and then hits the ball, fair or foul, shall be called out.

Maybe I should get another Rulebook?
June 16, 2025
Don5
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Back foot out rule

Kim, thank you for identifying my stupidity on sports. However, can you explain 7.3 versus the 2025 Rules summary?


SSUSA 2025 Rules Summary
• On the swing, the batter’s front foot may step out the front of the box

7.3
A batter who steps out of the batter’s box at any time during the pitch and then hits the ball, fair or foul, shall be called out.
June 16, 2025
Don5
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Back foot out rule

Jeffrey, the clarification we need is not the placement of the rear foot, but the front foot.

Example: batter is 7'10" and swings the bat and his rear foot does not cross the line defining front edge of home plate, yet his front foot lands 24" beyond the batter's box line.

Is he out? per rule 7.3

If yes, then change the verbiage of the 2025 Rules summary.


June 16, 2025
Don5
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Back foot out rule

At a recent Northern California Senior Softball Association Board meeting, the SSUSA “back foot” out rule was discussed for adoption in our Association, there seems to be an irregularity regarding the 2025 Rules summary and Rule 7.3 of the 2023-2024 Official Rulebook.

The 2025 Summary indicates, “the batter’s front foot may step out the front of the box but rear foot cannot be fully in front of line”. However, in the Official Rulebook Rule 7.3 A. “A batter who steps out of the batter’s box at any time during the pitch and then hits the ball, fair or foul, shall be called out.

We would like some clarification from SSUSA regarding this. Hopefully a Definitive Accurate Verbally Exceptional person would enjoy providing this information.

Don Angle
NCSSA

References:
SSUSA 2025 Rules Summary
• On the swing, the batter’s front foot may step out the front of the box but rear foot cannot be fully in front of line defining front edge of plate when contact is made (fair or foul). This is a dead ball out

2023-2024 Official Senior Softball-USA Rulebook
7.3 • BATTING POSITION
A. The batter must have at least some portion of both feet on or inside the lines of the batter's box at the start of the pitch. A batter who steps out of the batter’s box at any time during the pitch and then hits the ball, fair or foul, shall be called out. Steps out means touching the ground completely outside of the lines of the batter’s box. (See §1.5)

Nov. 15, 2024
Don5
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: Animals 75 Major seeking Major players

The Animals 75 Majors are looking for a couple of skilled outfielders who can fit into our rotation. We currently have 4 major outfielders and will run a 5 or 6 man rotation. We could use another good infielder and maybe a pitcher who can play other positions also. We play locally in Central California and most of the Western Major Tournaments.
The Animals have a winning tradition for almost 35 years!!
Send me an email or call…

Don Angle
209 573 3369
don.angle@aol.com
May 11, 2024
Don5
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Reno

Conman, unknown to everyone but Dave Dowell, when you go into the park you are face tracked by Tik Tok and you whereabouts will always be known to the “Big Dave”. I can assure you that I don’t want to play in the sandbox in Carson City, and my bones are wary of the steps of Rancho Santiago. I recall some 20 years a I played at Shadow Mountain and hit a ball that actually left the he park. I would rather be tracked by “Big Dave” ????????????
March 23, 2024
Don5
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 77-year-old AAA player looking for NorCal tournament team

Dr Bob,
Please call me, The Animals 75 are still looking for 75 year old players and we play in the Nor Cal tourney's also. We are based in Manteca/Modesto area

Don Angle 209 573 3369
Jan. 17, 2024
Don5
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: Animals 75 needing a few good players

FYI- Under SSUSA rules, I can players from any state west of the Mississippi River.
Jan. 17, 2024
Don5
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Don Wheeler

Don, please call me

Don Angle
Animals 75 Major
209 573 3369
Jan. 7, 2024
Don5
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: Animals 75 needing a few good players

To those interested in winning, the Animals based in North Central California has moved to 75’s, this team has a strong tradition of over 40 years of winning. The Animals won the Worlds as seniors in the 50, 55, 65 and 70 age groups.

Now it's time to win the 75s.

if you are interested in becoming an Animal, please contact me.



Don Angle

209 573 3369

don.angle@aol.com
Sept. 12, 2022
Don5
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Worlds 70 Major Bracket Logic?

That seems to be just what is going on. Providing sound logic is not enough? Seems like a good non-answer that does not benefit any team except the 70 Major Plus team.

What does "entitled" mean?

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/inˈtīdld/
adjective

1.
believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment:
"kids who feel so entitled and think the world will revolve around them"

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Sept. 12, 2022
Don5
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Worlds 70 Major Bracket Logic?

I'm not sure about the logic of placing the lone 70 Major Plus team in the 70 Majors bracket. My team won the worlds 70 Majors in 2020 and we played that team several times in 2021 and got run-ruled almost every time. So then, with nobody to play, they played down(?) to the 65 Major Plus and won many of those tourneys also. They just played in the Westerns as a 65 Major Plus team taking 2nd place.
Now the 70 majors have to deal with a team that can beat 65 major Plus teams regularly, seems to be something wrong with this logic.
It's not fair to the 14 70 Major teams who may have to play against that team in the Worlds. Let them play where they have been playing since last year, 65 Major plus.

Don Angle
Animals 70
April 16, 2022
Don5
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Southwest softballs?

What balls are going to be used in the Southwest Championship?
Oct. 9, 2021
Don5
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

Kudos to Doug Robbins for the Timberworks team, 2022! they will get probably be better. More power to them, and good luck to anyone playing against them,, wherever they play. Why would anyone suggest that they should play 60’s. Ridiculous to penalize a team and manager for playing within the rules. Time cures everything, just go out and play and take your lumps if they come your way.
Doak!! Love ya pal 😃 always a pleasure playing with you or against you! See you in Phoenix, just hope we are on different fields😎
Don Angle
Animals AA
Aug. 22, 2021
Don5
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: major plus

Major Plus is still a badge you can wear proudly, the Animals won that privilege during the last World Championships. We had a great run of 7-0 to win, but in the year of COVID, we did not see any teams from the East other than Venom 70 Major Plus. Our team knew going into the championship game against the Sidewinders that if we won, we would be playing Timberworks every time we played the following year.
Winning was the most important thing, the Animals have never ever sandbagged for anybody and never will. Our team is comprised of mostly local players and we are proud that we compete at a high level and win against some of the top teams in the Country.
Thank you Doak for suggesting that we packed it in, that’s not really true. My core group of guys will play anyone at anytime, but you can’t get some guys to commit to getting run ruled every time out, so you just can’t play with 8-9 guys. As a self sponsored team, the cost per player for travel and expenses is large and spending $500 or more for some guys to get a 2nd place cap every time out and I understand that. We didn’t even get a cap for the Rock n Reno tourney, Timberworks got 1st place in the 70’s, Texas Crush got 1st place for the 65’s and we got 3rd place??? It was just a three team bracket and I don’t really care about the cap, second place is for losers.😃

It’s not my intent to change the chemistry of the Animals just to play M+, this team has a 40 year history of friends playing ball together. If you have the ability to win, you must also have to be gracious to lose too.
If the Animals get lucky enough to play Major again, we will strive to win that title again.
I don’t see a reasonable outcome regarding the disparity between M+ and M. It would be nice to see sponsored and non-sponsored divisions but that’s not going to happen. There is really nothing different now than years back when these same M+ players were playing younger, they dominated those age groups too.
I know the Major associations like SSUSA have problems getting equitable opponents for the M+ teams and I think they are the ones that need to work harder to fix the problem.
Hope to see everyone again at the Winter Worlds with a healthy Animal team, good luck to all during the Worlds in Vegas

Don Angle
Animals

Nov. 7, 2020
Don5
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Intentional Walk

The defensive may request that the next two runners be walked, if done at the same time, the first batter can go directly to second base without touching first base. This happened during our Masters Championship game in St George. Correct ruling was clarified by The UIC Tom Bussey.

Don Angle
Animals
Oct. 13, 2020
Don5
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Updated Ratings

WAIT!, WAIT!, you mean I have now play a combo team of Doug & Otis?


Aug. 22, 2020
Don5
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: 70 Major looking for team in Saint George

Please call me 209 573 3369
May 29, 2020
Don5
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Northern Cal. State Championships on June 12-17 in Sacramento

Nor-Cal Championship cancelled
May 17, 2020
Don5
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking to join a team for Huntsman and/or Reno event can play 70s or 75s

Please call me. 209 573 3369
Don 5
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