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Jan. 30, 2015
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Facing one batter

The most outlandish rule I ever seen was in 1979 ASA, think it only lasted for 1 year.
If the starting pitcher was replaced with another player he could not return to the mound, but if the second third or 4th pitcher was replaced they could go back to the pitching mound as many times as needed

So what we did was let a non pitcher pitch to the 1st batter then brought our number 1 pitcher in that way he could be replaced as many times as needed and go back to the mound.

Now ain't that something
Nov. 19, 2014
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Suggestions for 2015

Staements like Brusters is why people think the seniors are bunch of spoiled babies. Dbax is right it is 50-50 regardless as to who calls it.
I thought I had heard of everything, but to complain over who calls the coin flip!!! that takes the cake.



Nov. 3, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Legal/Illegal Use of Courtesy Runner?

Funny how they post USSSA rules and they do not even know the USSSA rule

page 42 2015 USSSA Rule book
L. When anyone other than another runner physically assists him while the ball
is in play.


It does not say touch it says assist.

Big difference in touch and assist
Oct. 31, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

I would have to agree with Tim, IF the pitcher never got in the pitching box. By what you guys are saying if a pitcher is standing on second base after a Time out he could pitch from there. It would be illegal but the batter could swing at it if he wants to?

Lets put a little common sense in it, The pitcher should not have been allowd to pitch (Dead Ball) if he had never got into a legal pitching position. However I do agree on an illegal pitch if the batter swings it is all bets off, what happens happens.
The way it it described it should have been a no pitch.
Oct. 22, 2014
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 1-1 count? Playing Devil's advocate

The one one count is better for the batter than you might think.
I pitch and I can almost gaurantee you that I am going to throw 1 waste pitch per batter with 4 balls to work with and sometimes 2

Oct. 21, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference

Stick that is correct. Any interference by a runner that has already been putout( in this instance the runner was out on the tag then interferce occured) is a dead ball and the runner closet to home is called out. The dead ball occured a split second after the hit so the runner at second would have to stay on second and the batter-runner on first.


Oct. 20, 2014
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: USA Championship seeding game

That is why I hate tournaments that furnish the ball. You never know what you are going to have to hit. Especially late in the day when the balls have been hit 100s of times.
Let the TD state the type ball he is using and allow teams to hit thier own ball as long as it is the type the TD is using. If he has them to sell then so be it . I had ratehr spend 25 or 30 dollars on bals and get to hit decent ball.
at $5.00 each let each player pay for a ball that would give you 12-15 new balls to use for the weekend.
Oct. 13, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: tag up

Stick we may be the only two but at least two of a very few that even know what we are talking about
Oct. 13, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: tag up

Stick are you refering to the fourth out appeal.

Sept. 10, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Baserunner Retreating

Tim if that is the way it it writing in SSUSA that is good and it explains it well.

However just a small detail that is in other associations is the runners would go back to the last base touched at the time he steps backwards.

Knowing that 99% of the time the last base touched would be the base he was at at time of pitch

Scenerio

Fast Eddie on 3rd slow batter hits a slow dribbler down the first baseline first baseman deep

Fast Eddie takes off and scores before the 1st baseman picks up the ball and starts to tag the runner but he backs up.

Just wondering why you would penelize fast Eddie for an infraction after the score?

Just curious
Sept. 9, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Baserunner Retreating

Home plate is the only base that you cannot retreat to.
In that situation batter out runner going to second is safe
Sept. 9, 2014
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: You Make The Call

Good explination Dave.

This is a timing play as long as the runner scored before the out
COUNT IT
Aug. 22, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call

The one addition that I wish the associations would make is.
If the defense lets the fly ball drop intentional then the offensive team has the choice of which runner would be declared out.
That way if a slow runner was on first and a faster runner batting the offensive team could chose the runner on first out and the faster runner be placed on 1st.

That would stop a bunch of that silly crap
Aug. 22, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call

BJ
If runners on 1st and 3rd there would be no infield fly rule. Therefore if the SS let it drop it would stay live because the batter runner should be hustling to 1st but then the SS would have to touch 2nd base for the force out.

However I do undertand if the umpire thinks the SS is doing this to try and turn a double play he could call dead ball and call the batter out on and intentionally dropped ball
Aug. 12, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Strangest play I have ever seen

Sec. 5. ONE RUN SHALL BE SCORED each time a base runner legally touches first,
second, third and home bases before the third out of an inning, unless the third out is the result
of a force out or the batter-runner is out before reaching first base. Base runners may advance
and a run may score only on a legally batted ball, on a play, on an overthrow or on an error
resulting from plays that started with, and immediately follow the batted ball or when the
bases are full, so that runners are forced to move up, or advance, by reason of the batter being
awarded first base by the umpire in accordance with these rules.
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Aug. 12, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Strangest play I have ever seen

Just going by the rule book If the 3rd out of the inning is a force out no preceeding runs should count.

It is the same if basses loaded ball hit to right field runner 1 scores runner 2 scores runner 3 gets tagged out going to 3 rd batter runner falls down in the box and cannot run to first and the defense throws over to 1st for the 3rd out NO RUNS SCORE.
Same pretense just different scenerio above. Does not matter if it is an appeal for missing 1st or the runner never got there he is forced out at first
Aug. 11, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Strangest play I have ever seen

Wrong the appeal is a time play that makes the 3rd out on the apeall
Aug. 11, 2014
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Managers nightmare!!

Harri
Things that teams never think about are!

Cost of Motel rooms for Umpires if a few teams had dropped out after the brackets were drawn and number of games needed maybe a umpire or two whould not have needed rooms.
Softballs were purchased for each team. T-shirts for resale were purchased by the number of teams attending. Left over t-shirts cost money.

Lots of different things go into redrawing tournaments.
These senior tournamenst with pools and brackets get really affected when 1 team drops out. Takes hours to redrawn and type up game schedules.

But the team thinks no big deal just send my money back.

Deadlines are there for a reason.

penalize the TD cause of the team player? really
July 31, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Softballs for World Championships in Vegas

Guess I asked for that one LOL
July 31, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Softballs for World Championships in Vegas

Kind of a stiff penalty for someone accidentally throwing in the wrong ball and someone hits a fly ball and makes as out. The defense shows the umpire they hit the wrong ball FORFEIT wow

or lets say team A is getting beat, most pitchers take the ball to the dugout when the inning is over. Team a switches ball to an illegal ball, brings it out pitches to a few batters than says HEY umpire they are hitting an illegal ball FORFEIT sounds like a tuff day for tournament directors LOL


I would just say the pitcher has the ball, they all look at it if they pitch it it becomes legal until someone discovers it. OR
If a team throws in the wrong ball and defense catches it the last batter that hit the ball will be ejected.
This will make the coach of the batting team to be sure and throw in the correct ball
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