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| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: How About A Ball Policy Statement In view of the movement to clean up the cheating in softball, I think the associations and their tourny directors need to sign a Ball Policy Statement that assures all players and managers that the compression of the ball furnished is exactly as stamped. Any manager can challenge a ball at anytime and confiscate the ball and pay for independent testing. If the ball comes back as stamped or higher then no consequences. But if it comes back at a lower compression than what is stamped then the association and tourny director will be banned for 2 years. Guilty intent will be presumed. There have been complaints lately about the ball furnished by certain associations and a Ball Policy Statement ought to help. No more fudging or "customizing " of balls as some have alleged. Integrity needs to start at the top. |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: The Truth About Bats And Balls Is there some way to spell check or edit these messages? My typing is not all that good. |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: The Truth About Bats And Balls In response to Larry's comments about the 300 lbs compression ball. Was it tested at room temperature(72) and found to be 300lbs of compression? If so, then imagine what the real compression was at 90 degrees or at whatever temperature you were playing. Further, as long as the association furnishes the balls then there is no telling what they really are. A manufacturer can "customize" a ball for an association and stamp it as they please and then all you know is what the stamp says. The only way to guarantee what ball you are hitting is to furnish your own. Let the association furnish the ball shaggers, if they want to do something consructive. And maybe the associations' presidents and tourny directors should all sign a Ball Policy Statement and if we catch them cheating then all teams get a fee refund and --yes and- the association is banned from all softball for 2 years with no right to a hearing. Just presumed guiltly intent. And the challenging manager will in charge of the ball and the testing. And there will be no consequences to the manager if the ball really is as stamped. Did you think this would be adopted by the Summit? |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: The Truth About Bats And Balls When it comes to banning $300 bats, I say control the game through the use of a $5 ball. Obviously, it can be controlled that way as evidenced by our recent experience in Auburn and yours in Virginia. We were both using U2s. Why have homerun limits for each division if no one even comes close to the limit? As far safety, the game is inherently dangerous. Further, if the U2 were really dangerous then it would have been recalled. You recall dangerous products. But the U2 is still on the market as of today. Were the associations fooled into approving the U2? Of course not. The U1 preceeded the U2. It was a shot across the bow. It rocked the softball world. So no one was surprised when the U2 came out and initially EVERYONE approved it. ASA put a stamp on it and collected a $1 royalty for each bat sold. What a scam!!! Then ASA changed the testing standard and banned even U2s bought BEFORE the new standard was announced. Today, you can buy a U2 with an ASA stamp on it. What happened, in my opinion, was that suddenly the aluminum bat manufacturers who had dominated the market for years were selling almost no bats in the men's slow pitch market. So they applied the pressure on the associations and the U2 got bannned. I could go on and on but instead, I am going to lunch. |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: The Truth About Bats And Balls If the word that I got indirectly from Worth is correct, and and the ball loses 5% for every degree rise above 72 degrees, then method for determining the lbs of compression at a given temperature would be something like this: At 90 degrees subtract 72 for a difference of 18 and then multiply .95 times the ball compression (say, 525) 18 times. If my math is correct then I get 208.5 lbs of compression at 90 degrees. For a similar information with a slightly different result see the USSSA website http://www.usssa.com/sports/Home.asp?Sport=17 and click on 2004 Slow Pitch Balls. Now , anyone who thinks that he is going to Gadsden to play NSA nationals (or Plano for SPA in Sept) and hit a 47 cor, high compression 525lb ball needs to check first with the weatherman. Does it make you wonder if maybe us seniors should break out the 50 cor so we can have a little fun. My 60 major team played SSUSA in Auburn a couple of weeks ago and, using the U2 and hitting a 44cor, 375lb compression ball, we hit no homeruns and none was hit against us. But the fields were great and the tourny was well run and it was nice and hot and we should have been hitting 47 cor , 535lb compression balls at minimum. Who needs homerun rules for each divisions if power is nullified by the ball and the heat. |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: Response To Altered Bat Policy I recently sent this to USSSA but it applies to all associations. I sent it mainly b/c of the presumption of guilt w/o the benefit of a trial. We all have bought bats off the internet and cannot possibly vouch for the integrity of the prior owner/owners. So I sent the following: http://www.usssa.com/sports/AlteredBats.htm I was looking over your altered bat policy. It is well intended but flawed. It presumes guilt. It affords no due process- no hearing. There is no guarantee of chain of custody of the bat. Any tourny director who may not like a player can take his bat, doctor it, ship it off to be tested and then ban the player. And if the player disagrees and demands some rights then he gets banned. Aren't you glad that the criminal justice system does not operate like USSSA. Really, a presumption of guilt and no trial. Just get arrested and off you go to the pen or jail to serve your mandatory sentence. Aren't you glad that you as a citizen have many more rights and safeguards to protect your liberties than what USSSA affords softball players. Aren't you glad that you live in a country that is not governed by USSSA? Does USSSA have a lawyer? Did he approve that policy? If so, I sure would like to have his name, address and office telephone. Sam Lee Angleton, Texas |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: NSA World Championships-July30-Aug. 1st Is it correct that one can not hit the Synergy SCX2 in NSA? I have looked at their approved bat list and it is obviously not on it but I keep being told,"Yeah, you can hit the SCX2". |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: The Truth About Bats And Balls If the Catalyst is hotter than the U2 then why is the U2 banned and the Catalyst legal in all the same associations that banned the U2? You cannot tell me that the Catalyst has a batted ball speed(BBS) of 116 mph and the U2 has a BBS of 105 or 106, or whatever, and that the Catalyst is legal. In my opinion, this is just hype to sell bats. You take your 116BBS Catalyst to the park and I will take my 105BBS U2 and we will see. It is pure hype/foolishness, in my opinion, to think that a bat with a BBS of 116mph is legal when the standard is 98mph and not to exceed 100mph. What I get out of this is that the players would like to have their U2s back or some similar bat. So why don't we just refuse to play unless we can use or good bats!!! July 5 Sam Lee Division: Mens' 60 Posts: 3 I guarantee you that if every 60 team, or 15 or 20 teams from across the entire senior s/b spectrum told , for example, Ridge Hooks that we refuse to play SPA this year unless we can use our good bats(U2) then changes would be made. These associations should be run for the benefit of the players and not the associations and the bat companies who are all in it just to make money at our expense. And SSUSA needs to wake up to the fact that allowing the U2 and SCX2 is great but that is only half of the equasion. The other half is the ball. Balls lose about 5% compression for every 1 degree rise in heat above 72. At least that benchmark applies to Worth balls b/c they test at 72 degrees. So a 375lb compression ball at 72 degrees is closer to a 175lb compression ball at 95 degrees. So when you play SPA in the heat in Plano in September then that 47 cor , 525lb compression ball is really about 200 lbs LESS. And you will hit a low performance bat-compared to the U2. About 5% less and that translates into 15 feet on a 300 ft park and that is a bunch. Further, reduce the ball compression by 200lbs and you have been reduced by another 15 feet or so. Think about it. |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: The newest Hot bat I guarantee you that if every 60 team, or 15 or 20 teams from across the entire senior s/b spectrum told , for example, Ridge Hooks that we refuse to play SPA this year unless we can use our good bats(U2) then changes would be made. These associations should be run for the benefit of the players and not the associations and the bat companies who are all in it just to make money at our expense. And SSUSA needs to wake up to the fact that allowing the U2 and SCX2 is great but that is only half of the equasion. The other half is the ball. Balls lose about 5% compression for every 1 degree rise in heat above 72. At least that benchmark applies to Worth balls b/c they test at 72 degrees. So a 375lb compression ball at 72 degrees is closer to a 175lb compression ball at 95 degrees. So when you play SPA in the heat in Plano in September then that 47 cor , 525lb compression ball is really about 200 lbs LESS. And you will hit a low performance bat-compared to the U2. About 5% less and that translates into 15 feet on a 300 ft park and that is a bunch. Further, reduce the ball compression by 200lbs and you have been reduced by another 15 feet or so. Think about it. |
| July 5, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Bats Discussion: The newest Hot bat If the Catalyst is hotter than the U2 then why is the U2 banned and the Catalyst legal in all the same associations that banned the U2? You cannot tell me that the Catalyst has a batted ball speed(BBS) of 116 mph and the U2 has a BBS of 105 or 106, or whatever, and that the Catalyst is legal. In my opinion, this is just hype to sell bats. You take your 116BBS Catalyst to the park and I will take my 105BBS U2 and we will see. It is pure hype/foolishness, in my opinion, to think that a bat with a BBS of 116mph is legal when the standard is 98mph and not to exceed 100mph. What I get out of this is that the players would like to have their U2s back or some similar bat. So why don't we just refuse to play unless we can use or good bats!!! |
| July 4, 2004 Sam Lee | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: USSSA - Panama City Beach http://www.usssa.com/sports/Home.asp?Sport=17 Click on 2004 Slowpitch Softballs. They all get to be spong, depending on the weather, but no one tells you that except USSSA. So why hassle over the bats when the balls all get to be sponge, at least when it is hot. |
