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April 24, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner's right to the base

And why no rule citation? Please provide that and maybe we can get someplace.

I've never said the runner had to GIVE UP HIS BAG!. I've said a little step to one side and the fielder would have had ample opportunity to give the F5 a chance to catch the ball and HOLD THE BASE! By failing to do so, he INTERFERED!

I cited a OBR rule. There seems to be no rule provided by the SSUSA rulebook that states, the base is a safe haven and runner doesn't have to give up the base to the fielder. I gave the only citation I could find to the situation in the defintions part of the book.

Seeing as how the ball landed at least a foot in fair ground, I'm ajudging the runner with very little effort, could have avoided contact with the fielder. People need to stop applying some different spin to the aforementioned play.

This a JUDGMENT call by the umpire. In my JUDGMENT the runner committed interference.

I am not a wannabe umpire. I have umpired baseball traditionally at the best levels of high school and select ball, usually the best high school and college players in my area. I have even worked community college baseball and fastpitch softball. Thus, I am no stranger to the world of officiating. I've had coaches and players question my judgment, but not my lack of rule knowledge.

I do also realize, often times a 50/50 chance of making people happy is a risk, but one I've never given that much thought to. I, as an umpire, am not going to bail out the offense just because of where the ball was hit. If you have a runner on 3B, don't hit it there!

I don't know where you guys stand when you're on 3B, but I stand with my left foot on the base and the rest of my body in foul territory so as not to interfere with a batted ball in fair territory.

Thanks for all the contributions, even DC Pete's failed rendering of when a batter/runner is not out. We are talking about a runner being out, Pete!!!!! Anyway it should say defensive player, not player.

I'll leave the big games to all of you sofa jockies. Enjoy all those big games from in front of you computer screeen. Two things you can't buy on the Internet are experience and good judgment.

And to answer your question B.J. I probably wouldn't have the runner out if they had done what was required, moving in a legal effort to avoid contact. My scenario didn't have that to begin with.

Just provide some ruling in the SSUSA rulebook. All opinions are welcome, even the ones that are wrong.

April 23, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner's right to the base

DEFINITIONS: 1.45 INTERFERENCE.

Interference is the act of an offensive player or team member that impedes or confuses the defensive player attempting to execute a play. A base runner MUST avoid a fielder making a play.

1.57 RUNNER.

A runner is an offensive player who has reached first base and has not yet been put out.

1.49 OFFENSIVE TEAM.

The offensive team is the team at bat.
April 23, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner's right to the base

...........and HENCE the keys words C. WHEN HE (BATTER) HITS A FAIR BALL EVEN THOUGH IT [STRIKES ANOTHER PLAYER, UMPIRE OR THEIR ATTACHED CLOTHING OR EQUIPMENT].

I am talking about a runner on a base interfering with a fielder's ability to make a catch. What I'm saying is THE RUNNER FAILED TO GIVE THE FIELDER THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE CATCH. HE COULD HAVE EASILY HELD THE BAG AND ALLOWED THE CATCH [OR ATTEMPT].

SIMPLE AS THAT.

You're looking under BATTER BECOMES A BATTER-RUNNER!

April 22, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner's right to the base

DCPete,

I assume you mean 8.2(1)C which reads: If the batter-runner and all runners have not advanced at least one base, the manager does not have the option to take the result of the play or accept the obstruction. The batter-runner will be awarded first base and advancing all other runners only if forced.

That's now even close as to what the discussion is about. I am now baffled amongst all get out. I just can't seem to locate an rule unless in under U-Trip or ASA.

April 21, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Dead ball ground rule double situation.

B.J. ~ A 440 ft. moonshot over the fence is also a four base award as the ball is dead.

Your scenario is still a homerun for all practical purposes even if it doesn't account against the team total.

I am familair with hit and sit as per the homerun rule.......but I maintain all runners should have to legally touch their base on what was earlier described as a "ground rule double".

Say a batter stands and admires his work at the plate, but alas the ball doesn't go over the fence and instead rolls under it. Do you allow the batter to cut across the diamond from home to second without touching first.

April 21, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner's right to the base

DC Pete

Apparently you don't have any judgment capabilities. Interference doesn't have to be intentional either. Look it up.

If an umpire cant make the distinction if a fielder is trying to create a collision or the runner interfered by not allowing the fielder to make the catch, the umpire might need some special training.

In the scenario, the runner could have very easily avoided contact with the fielder and still held the base as the ball was in fair territory. If the ball hit him before the fielder touched it, the runner standing in fair territory is out.

Please cite a rule number or casebook number to back up your claim. Until then your "contention" is merely opinion.
April 21, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Dead ball ground rule double situation.

Sorry, left this out.

In this situation, I maintain the batter should have to touch the base he is awarded before the courtesy runner replaces the B/R.
April 21, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Dead ball ground rule double situation.

Dave Dowell

A homerun is the only four base award. How are you using the word "or"? As the definition of a homerun OR is there another four base award we don't know about.

Actually there isn't a such a thing as a ground rule double. It really should be defined as a rulebook double........as it states in the rulebook........batter and runners by rule are awarded two bases from their last legally acquired base at the time the ball goes dead.

Ground rules are what pertains to a certain field.
April 21, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner's right to the base

This happened a few weeks ago.

There was a runner on 3B. The batter hit a pop-up to the 3B right at the base. The runner stood on the bag, which he has a right to do, but didn't move to allow the fielder the opportunity to catch the ball. He could have easily stepped into foul territory and kept one foot safely on the base. This caused a collision and for the ball to be dropped.

They brought out an OBR rulebook. Their rules says that if the runner doesn't intentionally interferes with the fielder, the runner isn't out. My contention per the OBR is that by failing to give the fielder a right of way to catch the ball and safely maintain contact with the base.........the runner has interfered.....and runner and hitter should have both been out with less than two outs.

I know how the rule is stated in the OBR as I umped baseball for many years. It could use some clarification somewhere in a casebook at least which I can't find.

My contention is that the runner intentionally interfered by not allowing the fielder to make a catch.
April 21, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Foul Tip vs Foul Ball

Really no reason to have a foul tip rule in softball. All that's needed is what defines a foul ball. Another baseball rule that shouldn't be in the rulebook.
April 21, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 1-1 count and new ball

Just a question...........can the pitcher throw more strikes and less balls with a 0-0 count in very windy conditions? Why complain when there is nothing you can do about it in the first place.
March 16, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Chief perez looking to join a 50 or 55 team

Chief, Do you want to play some league ball? I can possibly assist you. Reach out and I
'll be there.
Feb. 17, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Softball cleats

I don't know what you're looking to spend, but I ordered some Adidas about 4 years. They were specially ordered with the color and shoe style of my choice. They have served me well. They are very comfortable to wear and the bottoms have held up nicely. The nice thing about them is they wipe off very easily and are waterproof for most part. I ordered the mid-top. Those will keep your feet and socks a little drier if that is what you're looking to do.

Go to the Adidas website and I think you can click on customized.

Feb. 16, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Today's "super" bats

superfonzie ~ It sounds like quite possible you have a staph infection. You need to get that checked out.


Jan. 25, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Shin guards

As a regard to MRSA or staph infection, clean the spot with alcohol ASAP. It might not look like a bad bruise, but the skin is still broken and infection can easily set in.

On a side note, the staph infection or MRSA never leaves the body.
Jan. 25, 2018
Wayne 37
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Senior softball in Ft. Worth texas

The Rockets on Monday night can always use players. Call me at 972-489-9329. I can fix you up.

Wayne

Dec. 18, 2017
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Shoe Inserts.

I have noticed in the past a few posters have ventured onto the subject of sore or aching feet and toes.

My toes hurt on occasion. When I went to the foot doctor to get an ingrown toenail removed, I asked him if there was something that might help in the form of relief. He suggested that I get a pair of quality shoe inserts.

I purchased a pair at the price of a pretty penny I might add, but they have been well worth the money. [$55.00]

They really support the end of your foot, and that is a big plus. They also offer great arch and heel support. While some might quibble with the lofty price tag, the great thing is you can put them in your other shoes when not playing or practicing ball.

They have really made a difference in my feet. A little something in your Christmas stocking from the missus is a fetching way to ensure the happiness of your "dogs" not biting so hard.

Have a great Christmas everyone!
Dec. 17, 2017
Wayne 37
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking for a Texas Team

Check with some teams in San Antonio, Houston or Gonzalez Construction. I think Gonzales is out of Corpus Christi.



Sept. 6, 2017
Wayne 37
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Senior Team DFW

What team?
Sept. 6, 2017
Wayne 37
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: I am trying to get in touch with Houston Fire Manager

I think a lot of those guys work for the Houston FD. They might be busy.
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