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Feb. 11, 2016 Randall 40 posts | Sliding into first base Is sliding into first base legal in SSUSA? |
Feb. 11, 2016 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | yep |
Feb. 11, 2016 SSUSA Staff 3460 posts | ONLY when returning to 1st base after having legally acquired it ... Otherwise, automatic OUT call ... There is a limited exception that allows a slide into 1st base to avoid a collision with a defender ... This is an umpire's judgment call and is not subject to protest or appeal ... |
Feb. 11, 2016 lb16 Men's 60 196 posts | Might I ask why it's an out? Other than it's in the rule book. |
Feb. 11, 2016 SSUSA Staff 3460 posts | There is no need to slide into 1st base or Home plate (same rule there) as a safety issue. We use a double first base to keep batter/runner and defender apart and either a secondary scoring plate or scoring line at Home to keep base runner and defender/catcher apart. With the offense having specific places to go that are separate from the defenders, sliding is not needed and, therefore, prohibited. There is the limited exception mentioned above to prevent an imminent collision. |
Feb. 11, 2016 OZ40 549 posts | Initially sliding into a base was to SLOW the runner so that they wouldn't over-run the base and be tagged out. In the case of 1st base or Home there is no need to slide since you get there quicker if you don't slide and getting there quicker is the object, right? What creates more friction, running on the ground or all (or a large part) of your torso? Friction slows you down and you certainly want to get to first or Home as quickly as possible. |
Feb. 11, 2016 16wood Men's 65 77 posts | Some runners slide/slid (present/past) into 1B in order to avoid a tag. I'm aware that it's a force play but some throws require a tag. The fact that SSUSA rules do allow for a slide to avoid a collision is only a semi relief... it's left to an umpire to rule on whether the slide was, in his/her judgement, completely necessary. A tag play could easily involve a collision. I presume that this is the reason there are so many safety rules in place for the area between 3b and home plate. BW |
Feb. 12, 2016 TM44 Men's 55 11 posts | I think the reason for sliding into first is a safety issue. When I used to play young ball I would slide into first sometimes on a close play to keep from getting hit in the temple by an errant throw. If you run in standing up you’re putting your trust in the first baseman, which may or may not protect you. Sometimes he can’t anyway if the throw is up the line or beyond first. I think the reason that most people slide at first is to protect themselves. |
Feb. 16, 2016 So Cal Z Men's 50 40 posts | I have a hard time with this one, last year at worlds we were knocked out of the tournament by a team that had a guy in the last inning slide at first. What happen: The umpire called him out which would have made it 2 out with a runner at 2nd base, the other team blew up and said he tripped :). The director came over and had a discussion with the umpire and proceeded to change the call-saying he did feel after thinking about it that he may have tripped. next guy hit a line drive to SS for an out which should have been game over, instead its 2 outs runner on 2nd next guy hits a walk off to send us home. After having spoken with the head of the rules committee guy, he tells me-and I quote "You guys are more right then they are". I guess it's shame on our coach not to fight a little harder for our case...but lessons learned. |