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| Nov. 16, 2011 Faulkner45 21 posts | ASA Bats Just moved from Florida to Virginia where they play ASA does anybody out there know of the best ASA bat? Have six bats in my bag but they are all senior bats. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Six bats?????? Do you have a wedge and a putter? =) |
| Nov. 16, 2011 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Gary I do carry a putter in my bag, as well as a Nerf Gun, Squirt Gun and AK47, for those hard to reach fences. Some of us take Softball more seriously then others. I too carry 6+ bats most of the time. Not all are Senior Bats. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | I never knew that quantity equals seriousness. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Mr. Manassas 244 posts | Gary19.....It is truly amazing.......You have an opinion on everything!!!! The new Reb. (asa) with the hole in it is pretty good. We tested it at our BP club. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Geez, no sense of humor. =( |
| Nov. 16, 2011 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Gary do you carry more then 1 club in your bag when golfing? Most guys I know carry several bats when going to a tourney, nothing worse then breaking a bat and needing to borrow. Or loosing the feel on a favorite bat and not having a backup that does feel good. Remember different situations may call for better different bat control, ie. lighter or heavier. I shouldnt have to explain this to an accomplished player like yourself, should I. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Yes, I do. The lies and distances vary frequently. I have never played with moving fences, or even that drastically moving of defensive players. And my lie is usually the same, clear air. I can see a couple for the reasons you give, sure no explanation needed. And if he had said two bats, or even three, I wouldn't have thought much of it. But six????? Or more????????? |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | A serious, but I think very related, question. Does anyone know how many bats Jim Galloway would take to a tournament? Or Myron Reinhart? Or Don Arndt? Or Tex Collins? Or Bert Smith? Yes, I know their bats were much more durable, but just wondering. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 hombre Men's 60 240 posts | Faulkner45, Kelly's Ultimate Sports rates the hottest ASA bats as follows: 1. Worth 454 Filthy Midload TIE 2. Worth Mayhem 98 Orange Original TIE 2. Miken Super Freak 98 Midload 3. Miken Freak FX 700 Supermax 4. Miken Freak FX 700 Balanced 5. Worth 454 Toxic Balanced 6. Combat Anti Virus Fully Loaded 7. Combat Anti Virus Balanced 8. Demarini Evo Ax Limited Edition I don't know what criteria they use for their ratings, but now you have somewhere to start. I hope this helps. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | Faulkner: I let many players hit our Reebok Vector ASA and USSSA bats at SSUSA Worlds. I realized that mine kept getting better and better as more guys hit with it at our hitting tent there. The Vector can be hit in cold weather. Is approved for ASA, USSSA, NSA and ISA. Comes with a one year warranty and has very good pop. Those of you who were at our tent and hit with it and those who bought one, please chime in here. I have them and can ship out same day. Ed Andrews Rbk Rep ed@ewandrews.com |
| Nov. 16, 2011 5ToolsinOhio Men's 50 160 posts | Gary19 has no bats, he doesn't play just yacks away. Jim Galloway, Don Arndt and the rest in that era did not have to carry more than one bat, if they needed another there sponsor/coach had a van or truck FULL genius. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 LeeLee 86 posts | faulkner45, hottest asa bats if you can find them are OG syngery blue and grey, OG Freak 98 and the blue with orange lettering mayhem oh and the grey m798 with red lettering mayhen. No question those are the hottest. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Ah, the nameless, faceless, anonymous eunuch is back. Just wondering, how many times did you see Galloway play? Where? What years? For which team? I never noticed a van or truck with New York plates in Parma. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 hombre Men's 60 240 posts | LeeLee, please excuse my ignorance, but what does OG and HO stand for? Thanks |
| Nov. 16, 2011 zonk 55 posts | OG means original, as in the OG Synergy blue & grey from 2006. This is an Easton bat (Flex); and, the model # is SCN3. There also is a red & grey = OG Easton Extended, model # SCX3. Faulkner, there is no simple answer to your question. There is a current situation in the ASA, where there are pre-ABI (after break-in), and post ABI = after break-in. There are many bats from pre-ABI, 2009, that are good bats. LeeLee mentioned some. You can add the Mikens: Recoil, Velocit-e, Demarini: juggernaut, Easton: SCN8, SCN9, Worth: Mutant98, JH Mut98, Rawlings Rush98, Mizuno Crush, TPS SB206, Rip It reaper2 from 2008, etc. Post ABI, the Easton Speed line, TPS Z-1000, Anderson Nanotek, Demarini one.12, the one, Worth 454 line, Miken FX700 line. There are many choices. Go to a shop and dry swing as many as possible, also try your teammates' bats. Balanced vs. endload, stiff vs. flex barrel, one piece vs. two piece, 12" sweetspot vs. longer sweetspot, are other factors. The ypes of ball used is also important. If the 52/300 balls, the post ABI bats are tuned better fot the softer balls. ABI= the ASA rolling and testing a NIW bat 3X.If the bat exceeds 98MPH, it will be banned. The whole hitting barrel is tested. Usually, the pre-ABI bats have a longer break-in. Sorry about the War & Peace answer; but, it is a complex issue. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 Faulkner45 21 posts | Thanks guys for all the imput As for you Gary 19 You comment on how many bats I have? Are you kidding me? Get a life Not that its any of your dam business but I have two batting practace bats and two other bats with a backup in case one of them cracks maybe someday you will hit a ball hard enough to crack a bat and then you'll understand. |
| Nov. 16, 2011 5ToolsinOhio Men's 50 160 posts | G19, nameless/faceless? I am sorry did not know you have met or played against most on this board forgive me. My bat comment is because being the genius you are how can you compare buying bats or how many you carry in your bag today compared to the 70's/80's? |
| Nov. 16, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | hell i carried at least 2-3 bats back in the 80's...... |
| Nov. 17, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | My goodness are old guys touchy. pup, significant difference between 2-3 and 6. Tool (good name for you), the point is the best who ever played could get by with probably one or two (again, I know they were more durable then, but the insistence on jacked-up bats has greatly contributed to the current lack of durability), so why do the relative ham-and-eggers nowadays need 3 or more times that many? Not just to own, but to "have in my bag". |
| Nov. 17, 2011 5ToolsinOhio Men's 50 160 posts | Well maybe because there are more models, choices of bats with fancy stickers on them, endloaded/balanced you have asa/utrip/senior bats only nowadays, but makes no difference unlike you i don't care how many bats the next guy has. |
| Nov. 17, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | 5tools,don't bother with him.i made a post about having 7 mikens at one time,not in my bag mind you but just owning them,he had something stupid to say,it is just his way of being a dipstick,doesn't care for the game,and has tell everyone else how bad it is,b/c he can't get on a team to play with......hell at this present time i have 12 different bats,along with some very old ones i have kept from back in the day i practice with...... |
| Nov. 17, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | sad pup, alas you stray. I am sure most everyone our age has many, many bats accumulated over the years/decades. But if someone is going to carry six or more to a game I simply wondered if any wedges or putters were in the bag. Tongue-in-cheek, you dumb butt! Again, old guys are getting very touchy. |
| Nov. 18, 2011 neck10 714 posts | asa is going to bpf 1.21 ratings for there senior bats just passed rule 3 section1 A-4 bet they get more teams I wonder if usssa will follow NSA already has. |
| Nov. 18, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Hotter bats = more teams???? Hmmmmmmmmm............. And guys on here will still try to say the special bats don't matter to the old guys. LOL |
| Nov. 18, 2011 Pricer Men's 50 621 posts | Neck, they are going to 1.21, but they will also be testing. There is a big difference in being able to use bats stamped 1.21 and having them tested for use! |
| Nov. 18, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | pricer,no....they are allowing the bats seniors use and the test that is done for them,and are not using the ASA test.the seniors 1.21 test is up b/c they went from using a 47-525 ball,to a 44-375 ball for testing,since the 44 is not as LIVELY as the 47 ball they up the bpf to 1.21 from 1.20.... |
| Nov. 18, 2011 titanhd Men's 60 639 posts | Please note: Senior Bats for Championship Play (Nationals). Only |
| Nov. 18, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | titanhd,that is what ASA does for all their rules,it is up to local leagues and tourney's to use their rules or modify them.so if ya go to a qualifier and up they are supposed to use the championship rules....i'm wondering what ball they are going to require the seniors to use,the 44-375 or the 52-300...... |
| Nov. 18, 2011 5ToolsinOhio Men's 50 160 posts | Wait wait G19 will tell us what this all means lol |
| Nov. 19, 2011 Pricer Men's 50 621 posts | Hey tool, quit acting like one! Are you looking for a argument on here? Quit trying to bait him. |
| Nov. 19, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Jeff, it's not a problem. We know who you are. We know who I am. The eunuch prefers to stay in the shadows, or wherever it is he/she/it hangs out. |
| Nov. 19, 2011 Mr. Manassas 244 posts | I was under the impression that one did not have to identify oneself unless he wanted to. Is there some shame involved. |
| Nov. 19, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Shame? Probably not. Well, maybe not unless you decide to anonymously attack someone without the conviction to say who you are. Then I guess yea, that is kind of shameful/cowardly/wussy-like. But to each eunuch his own. |
| Nov. 20, 2011 curveball Men's 65 705 posts | I think 5tool is in the majority................his thinking is sound.........and I have a feeling he's an active player. |
| Nov. 20, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Hmmmmmm......... Me thinks we just we just found out who is curveball's alter ego. |
| Nov. 20, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Hmmmmmm......... Me thinks we just we just found out who is curveball's alter ego. |
| Nov. 21, 2011 curveball Men's 65 705 posts | That could be. I'm not sure his exact feelings, but he has indicated you to be a phony, a blowhard, and a wannabe, a negative viewer of most topics, and non-visable part of Cleveland softball. He called you out in your own town. I have no problem with those feelings, as it is so with lots of others on this board also. |
| Nov. 21, 2011 cal50 Men's 50 328 posts | Gary, the correct response from you should be "I resemble that" |
