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, Nov. 2, 2016
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Is it a catch?

"""When I was umping in So Cal, the player had to voluntarily release the ball from his glove in order to be ruled a legal catch. """

I have heard the "voluntarily release" thing before but not "from his glove".

You can always tip a ball with your glove and catch it bare handed. It is a common occurrence.

This scenario just had a twist of the glove being stuck on the fence.
, Oct. 30, 2016
Joncon
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: field of choice for winter world,phoenix

The Phoenix area does have a LOT of NICE fields.

The only one in a bad neighborhood is Desert West and it's still a nice park,except for the lights.
, Oct. 17, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Speed up rules

"""I don't want a 1-1 count, so lets just play the game the way it SHOULD BE, it we don't get in 7 innings so be it"""

lol

But, the game SHOULD BE seven innings, right? :)



In my mind, the 1-1 count obviously speeds the game up.

How much? Someone would have to collect data from maybe 20 games to get an accurate idea. I'm guessing that will never happen but, it would be simple to categorize and time the different events.

I would imagine that the majority of the time would be the pitching/hitting process. The CR seems to be an issue also, along with arguing/complaining.

Even if the 1-1 only saved an average of one (15 second) pitch per batter (60 at bats), that is 15 minutes per game.

The player's are responsible for the slow pace but, hey.....old guys like to mosey.....and talk.


, Sept. 15, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA Arizona Director Rick Seifman

""Let Rick come on this message board and defend himself ""

He is too smart to get into an internet pissing contest, just like your established player doesn't want to publicly get into it.

You and I could learn something from them :)


I still play ball and have tons of friends (and maybe some enemies) that play senior ball and I have been posting here for 15 years so maybe you should, I don't know.... GFY? lol




Email sent Dave

, Sept. 15, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SSUSA Arizona Director Rick Seifman

I don't play senior ball anymore but I'll chime in again in support for Rick.

Put yourself in his shoes for just one minute.

Babysitting hundreds of ADULTS on a weekly basis is a CHORE and he has been doing it for DECADES. The fact is, he can't please everybody. No one can.

It has been my observation that softballers cry, whine, bitch and moan about the same crap over and over again and rarely take enough responsibility for their own actions. I've also noticed that only the losing teams complain.

I don't know how accurate this third hand information from "an established senior player" is but, if you are going to publicly bash someone, you should own it and be prepared for a counter attack. After all, this is his livelihood.

If you know of a better solution to the myriad of issues that constantly come up (scheduling, classifications etc), maybe offer up your suggestions in a normal discussion instead of bitching about them.

Until then, quit crying, act like grown men, play ball and have some damn fun.
, Aug. 25, 2016
Joncon
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Why are there rules?

From my perspective, 40 year olds are ALL underage lol.
, July 20, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: WESTERN NATIONALS

I think all tournaments should be in Phoenix.

At Rose Mofford park please.



Also, no games before 9AM.

While you're at it, temps need to be 70-75
, July 3, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What is the Proper Ruling

June or July?
, July 2, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What is the Proper Ruling

The team was out of line for wasting everybody's time, arguing about a call that couldn't be made by any ump anywhere. It's another fine example of people blaming other's for their problems.

When the game starts, the loaner catcher is on YOUR team. You want the ump to somehow call and out on a play your team mate didn't make? Seriously? Why not give him a base hit every time he grounded/flew out.

The catcher being a tool has nothing, nada, zip to do with the ruling or the original post.

Softball is obviously loaded with tools. That's what makes the game comical and annoying at the same time. Kind of like this place :)
, July 2, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What is the Proper Ruling

I don't know why you are disappointed in me Dave. I would also play my best if I were subbing.

I simply pointed out the standard and logical etiquette.

And you don't know the guy was a tool. You only heard one side of the story. Maybe he just had a senior moment.

Damn, Old guys are cranky up in here :)

If I asked for a sub from the other team, I wouldn't assume he would want to "make the play" and I wouldn't expect him to. I'm the one without a full team so I'm the one who needs to take care of business.
, July 1, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What is the Proper Ruling

Protocol/etiquette is what you are looking for.

I doubt that any sanctioning body allows the use of non roster players.

Logic dictates that a borrowed catcher shouldn't be asked to contribute to his own team's loss. He should only be asked to throw the ball back to the pitcher and the pitcher should cover home.

Your team was out of line. Bring ten guys or play with nine. Then you can complain :)
, June 24, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pay to play a quality tournament

Come on!!

At least spell my name right.

And, what are we waiting for?

KP&R wasn't whining. He was just offering an alternative.... albeit in Bullhead city :)



And yeah Three Six, I did get old. If we're lucky, it happens :)
, June 24, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Throwing Help

Great link!!

I found it easier to count the reps instead of the seconds. I thought 50 reps seemed like 20 seconds.

I started to feel the fatigue quickly, at the small circles forward and had to start taking breaks at the small circles back. After that it was only 10-20 at a time. By the end, 10 at a time was all I could do.

It is simple but it aint easy :)

I never could throw well. Mostly I assumed from poor mechanics. Maybe this will help. It certainly pointed out my lack of mobility and range of motion.
, June 13, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pay to play a quality tournament

I think that's great! Instead of whining, you are actually taking steps to offer a choice.

I will follow the development and maybe come to your defense some day when people start complaining about the way you handle the omnipresent softball drama :)
, June 12, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pay to play a quality tournament

Hey, I do what I can to liven this place up :)
, June 12, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Money Taken

"""not sure who you are or why you're even chiming in this sounding like your defending SSUSA"""

I'm just another old softball guy and I'm "chiming in" because this is a discussion board.

Discussion goes both ways. I'm not defending SSUSA, I'm simply saying that it was likely spelled out in the contract.

It seems as you are trying to present a case that the contract is void but I didn't see anything to convince me.

Then you are trying to convince me that you should be in charge of how SSUSA runs it's business.

I've determined that you are just deflecting the blame.

Also, your dismissive attitude and sarcasm speak volumes about you and pretty much negates any true or positive things you might have to say.
, June 12, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pay to play a quality tournament

So, you "heard" that Rick called and said he would "throw the club out if he didn't stop asking questions".

Didn't that sound just a little far fetched?

Instead of hearsay, present some evidence and I will believe you. Until then, the story will get exaggerated with every telling. Pretty soon Rick will be a serial killer.

When you hear one side of the conversation, it will ALWAYS be edited to favor the plainiff's case. When repeated, different words are used and the context may change. We learned that in grade school.

Y'all sound like a bunch of gossipy old women lol

I'm not the brightest guy in the world and I don't know the whole story......... but I do know enough not to come to conclusions without all the facts.


, June 6, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Money Taken

A business has to make the decision on how to handle things like this. I have been in the same basic situation in my business and you need to address each case on an individual basis.

Sometimes you decide on a full or partial refund/credit and sometimes you take a hard stance.

No one can really form an opinion without all the facts from both sides. I'd suggest that you just consider it tuition.

You can express your opinion on how you think they should run their business but, it is their business to run. They might think you should have read the contract before you paid :)

Hey, it's only money and you can't take it with you. :)
, June 6, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Pay to play a quality tournament

"""Hey Joncon, I asked for opinions, not a Jackass response!"""

But, you didn't specifically say "no jackasses" so.......

If you need someone to agree with you and join in the complaining, it aint gonna be me. I just complain about the complainers lol :)

Rick is a solid guy all around IMO. I certainly wouldn't want his job. Nobody is going to make everyone happy and softball players (young and old) are a whiny bunch.

Just play and have fun or stay home and have fun. It seems simple enough.

, June 6, 2016
Joncon
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Money Taken

What does your contract say about refunds?

That's really the only thing that matters.
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