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Discussion: SSUSA Arizona Director Rick Seifman

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Sept. 3, 2016
Benji4
228 posts
SSUSA Arizona Director Rick Seifman
Just got word from an established senior softball player that he drove 3 hours to a Rick Seifman ran tournament today, and was met at the gate by Seifman who told the player he could not play in the tournament because the player criticized Seifman on this message board. Seifman said. "It's my tournament and I can do whatever I want." The player then had no choice but to drive 3 hours home.

This is complete BS............

It's time for SSUSA to get rid of Seifman as a SSUSA director. Does SSUSA really want a guy like Seifman representing them? Seifman bans a player from playing in his tournaments because the player gave his opinions on a message board. Really?

I apologize to the Arizona guys who were afraid to post their name when talking about Seifman. It's obvious Seifman is a vindictive ASS..............

It's time for SSUSA to get rid of Seifman and for people to start boycotting his tournaments.
Sept. 4, 2016
baseballbill
121 posts
I want to comment that with all my dealings with Rick, I always found him to be fair, a standup guy and easy to work with.
Sept. 5, 2016
Benji4
228 posts
I'm glad Rick makes at least one person happy. Hopefully soon there will be another person running senior tournaments in Arizona.
Sept. 5, 2016
L.Martin
Men's 50
47 posts
Benji4, by any chase did you play with the old DEA Combo teams during some of the Nevada Police and Fire Olympics?

I pitched for the Fort Worth Posse from 2005-07, we had a pretty good run during them years winning it once, and I believe losing to you guys one year during the trophy rounds as well.

I never go to play the police softball.com though, for some reason the clown that ran that association didn't think Fish & Wildlife officers were police, but prison guards where. lol
Sept. 5, 2016
Benji4
228 posts
Yes sir that is me. Police softball has come along way. They have a clearer list of qualifications now. I still play heading to Kansas City next weekend just don't play for DEA combo anymore. I remember all the battles with the good Texas teams.
Sept. 6, 2016
Fabe
Men's 60
414 posts
Awesome to hear of years competing in the Police Games! Played for Hawaii's Finest....many great battles! Aloha, Fabe
Sept. 6, 2016
sjuhoops
144 posts
Great competition for 21 years. Nassau County PD and NY Metro. Played Dayton Detroit and Jacksonville Tourneys mostly and a few times Houston PD tourney. 1973 to 1994. Be safe out there.

Hank C.
Sept. 6, 2016
L.Martin
Men's 50
47 posts
I played the Dayton tournament a few times, by boys always loved the mini bat they gave us, Metro and NYPD Blues where just to tuff to handle, the Ohio, Michigan and Minnesota Lawmen where pretty good as well. Pulse at the time was the only true police tournament around I believe.
Sept. 6, 2016
Dbax
Men's 60
1862 posts
Played with Arizona Softball Whores for 25 years. Made it it Detroit a couple of times, Columbus, Ohio, Edmonton, Canada, and Vegas every year.
Sept. 6, 2016
sjuhoops
144 posts
Dbax Were Delbert and Jan playing in Detroit 86 or 87 when the plane hit the Avis building on takeoff.
Sept. 6, 2016
Dbax
Men's 60
1862 posts
Yep, we were there. Very scared.
Sept. 6, 2016
Dbax
Men's 60
1862 posts
Lol, should have said very scarey.

http://policesoftball.com/please._-.-_.-._.search/current._-.-_.-._.halloffame
Sept. 6, 2016
Punch
Men's 60
16 posts
Played with LASD from 1975 to 2003. Post retirement with So. Cal. Combo, LASD Gray, and Norwalk SD. I also competed in the California, Arizona, and Nevada Olympics, and later the Police and Fire Summer Games, International Games and World Police and Fire Games. I competed in both fast pitch, and slow pitch softball, table tennis...singles and doubles, handball, and racquetball. Many great memories.
Sept. 6, 2016
STL0
Men's 55
195 posts
Fabe: Hawaii's Finest is a good name but I can't believe you didn't use Hawaii 50 (that would actually be a good senior name).
Sept. 6, 2016
Katzy63
Men's 50
22 posts
I find it funny how a bunch of former lawmen hijacked this thread...
Sept. 6, 2016
AZsoftball00
Men's 55
11 posts
I know #55 from AOS and me have had our run ins with Rick
Sept. 6, 2016
Fabe
Men's 60
414 posts
Benji...that is our Senior name..Hawaii Five-O/50 n 55 Majors...didn't intend to hijack the thread, just wanted to acknowledge someone! Aloha, Fabe
Sept. 6, 2016
Benji4
228 posts
Fabe you guys had some good Hawaii teams back in the day. I don't think most people realize the quality of Law Enforcement softball then and now.

I'm not to concerned about a thread hijack. I'm sure Seifman knows I don't care for him. I just think his antics are bad for senior softball.

I played a few years with Dbax on the Softball Whores. One of the best teams I was associated with... I have been lucky enough to travel to a lot of great places to play softball: Detroit, Virginia Beach, Nevada, Tahoe, St. Louis, Kansas City, Vegas, Dayton, Houston, Jacksonville, and so on.......

Still talk to Delbert and Jan and am trying to convince Delbert to get back to playing.....

Nice reminiscing and knowing a lot of former Law Enforcement guys are still competing.
Sept. 7, 2016
LM21
16 posts
I've been playing ASA for over 20 years in Arizona and to many run ins to count... Definitely power tripper... I was so disappointed when I found out he was getting into Seniors... Our Team is thinking about just making trips to California instead of dealing with him. Hope I'm not band in Arizona now. lol
Sept. 7, 2016
Uncle Mike
Men's 60
119 posts
Don't want to throw gas on the fire, but I would be extremely angry if I drove 3 hours each way to play in a tournament- and I was not allowed to play. Wasn't this player already approved by the SSUSA office ? If he was an approved player- Where is it in the rule book that says the TD can keep a player in good standing, from playing in a sanctioned event by SSUSA ? If he didn't start a ruckus at the tournament, which would be covered by the Code of Ethics- then the TD has no authorization by rule, to not allow him to play in this tournament. Whether he's upset with him or not. The TD has no authority to suspend or prohibit a paid registered player from participating in a tournament that he paid SSUSA a personal registration fee to play in.
A TD's integrity has to be above reproach. He/ she should be the most composed and mature person at the venue. If they can not separate their personal feelings from their professional obligations, they shouldn't be allowed to continue as a TD for SSUSA. I understand they are human, I understand they have feelings. It's like being an umpire, you need to be able to take some criticism. Whether it is warranted or not.
There had to be a certified roster- which is an agreement between my team and SSUSA. SSUSA agrees that I can bring these players to Anytown, USA. To play in this age/ skill group for $$$ on these dates. If I was the team manager you can bet I would of pulled my team out of the tournament- if one of my players was banned, and settled it with a phone call on Monday.

If you think about it, that kind of decision affects the whole team. One person should not have that type of authority, to ban someone just because there is a personal issue.

Obviously, this isn't the 1st verbal complaint about Mr Seifman. There should be a formal complaint filed, for each transgression. And an investigation should follow. This type of behavior, can not be tolerated. We are paying SSUSA for a service, a level and unbiased playing field to compete against one another. Rules are in place for everyone !!! Not just players.......

Mike Leighty
Oxnard, Ca
Rookies- Hard 10s

Sept. 8, 2016
Fabe
Men's 60
414 posts
I hope U guys can workout that TD problem U have with SSUSA....don't have to tell U use the system n share what happens with others! Power at times does some strange things to certain people! See all U guys in Vegas...Aloha, Fabe
Sept. 13, 2016
Pgh Yinzer
Men's 60
27 posts
Isn't it odd that SSUSA hasn't commented on this.. I know I worked as an ump for SSUSA under this guy and I know I didn't like him as UIC cause of his ways and tactics.. My .02
Sept. 13, 2016
SSUSA Staff
2896 posts
We don't comment publicly on personnel matters ...
Sept. 15, 2016
Joncon
328 posts
I don't play senior ball anymore but I'll chime in again in support for Rick.

Put yourself in his shoes for just one minute.

Babysitting hundreds of ADULTS on a weekly basis is a CHORE and he has been doing it for DECADES. The fact is, he can't please everybody. No one can.

It has been my observation that softballers cry, whine, bitch and moan about the same crap over and over again and rarely take enough responsibility for their own actions. I've also noticed that only the losing teams complain.

I don't know how accurate this third hand information from "an established senior player" is but, if you are going to publicly bash someone, you should own it and be prepared for a counter attack. After all, this is his livelihood.

If you know of a better solution to the myriad of issues that constantly come up (scheduling, classifications etc), maybe offer up your suggestions in a normal discussion instead of bitching about them.

Until then, quit crying, act like grown men, play ball and have some damn fun.
Sept. 15, 2016
Benji4
228 posts
Joncon

I can assure you the info about Rick is 100% accurate. He has done the same thing many times before in seniors and ASA. I have personally lived it so I will be responsible for it. Let Rick come on this message board and defend himself I welcome it.

The established senior player like other players hosed by Rick didn't want his name revealed because Rick would vindictively screw him again.

You can support Rick that's fine but don't say anyone was whining or crying. Just stating accurate facts about Rick's antics.

Since you don't play senior ball anymore maybe you shouldn't chime in. Go back to playing shuffleboard and leave the message board to those that play.............

Benji
Sept. 15, 2016
Dbax
Men's 60
1862 posts
Joncon, email me at dbax5@msn.com.
Sept. 15, 2016
Joncon
328 posts
""Let Rick come on this message board and defend himself ""

He is too smart to get into an internet pissing contest, just like your established player doesn't want to publicly get into it.

You and I could learn something from them :)


I still play ball and have tons of friends (and maybe some enemies) that play senior ball and I have been posting here for 15 years so maybe you should, I don't know.... GFY? lol




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