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Dec. 4, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

optimist.... sorry auto corrected on my phone.. lol
Dec. 4, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Rules

DBax, you are a optimised! ;-) I think there is more to it than just letting teams play down..
I think and know there should be a limit that makes more sense for the amount of players picked up on any team below Major Plus for the Worlds..

If you are allowed to pick up a possible 8 players on a team with only 7 players, you basically recreated a team and how can you even rate that team? Why have qualifiers when teams get bumped in the middle of the year base on performance, however a team thrown together has no track record..

I just don't get it.. I think Major team should play major teams and AAA teams should play AAA teams.

At the Major plus level it's the best against the Best and they should be able to pick up who ever they get their hands on to complete a roster..
Dec. 4, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

should of read once again on my last sentence... I am discussing rules going forward, and I am pointing out what could happen under our current system in place!

I would love to hear from everyone if they think picking up to 7 or 8 players(And I know Cornerston did not pick up this many..) for any Major or lower division for worlds is fair? This is permitted with our current rules FYI why have qualifiers?


Dec. 4, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

ronnie, if it is about the Major plus division I agree.. but when you are talking about a lower division, meaning not the best in the country! Then you have to protect that division from Stacking teams! I understand that most teams pick up guys for worlds!

I am not calling anyone cheaters.. Do you think next year it would be fair to drop 7 to 8 guys from my warriors roster and pick up 7 to 8 Summys 55 year olds? One again, this has nothing to do with this year... I discuss, no whining here!
Dec. 3, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 50's vs. 55's

Sommerville would probably have to play itself with as many 55 year old on their team. But I would bet it would be a hell of a game between an allstar 50 plus and 55 plus team...
Dec. 3, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

Donll, Tim admitted that with his teams success this year they shouldn't of been aloud to play in the Major division. We did talk about that and that was Tims take... Just to be clear, I'm not saying Cornerstone picked up 8 Major plus players, I'm saying that the way the rules state you could load a team with up to 8 55 major plus talent to a team like my Warrior team that has some talented guys on it and drop the bottom half off our team, We would be a no doubt Major plus 50 team competing in 50 major division.. I just see the rule set up for teams to load up.. I think the rule should change so that you couldn't do this... It will be done in the future the way it's set up!
Dec. 3, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

Probably True, Hitnrun 5... however there is a huge cliff between 60 and 55s not as huge from 50 to 55.. My take is the 55s lose a bit of speed fielding but top 55 plus guys can still hit with anyone in the country...

Now from my standpoint, I see most Major teams with 2 to 3 players that are major plus type hitters, then to allow a team to pick up to 7 new guys on a roster(55 major plus players) that never played one inning for that team, is Loading a team! Say Next year a team picks up 7 of the Summerville guys that will be 55, and add them with the 2 to 3 guys that are major plus type ball players on a Major team.. you will have 9 major plus hitters on a major team.. Does that sound fair to the Major division, or any lower division?

There has to be some decorum on what you are allowed to do that doesn't ruin what all major teams have been playing for. IMO


Dec. 2, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

BW, I don't think Tim's Tactics with Fran and Dave where in the best interest of the site... I think it should of all been done behind the scenes! I know Tim took it to the Boards and it got into a name calling pissing match!

At the end of the day, I have talked to Tim about this and his motives are not to harm or even take away from this years Major WMC.

His motives are going forward, were to never have what happened at this WMC Major division.. You had two teams loaded with 55plus major ball players that went through the major division and ended up in the finals!

Summerville is the best team in the country IMO, and they will have 9 55s on their 50 major plus team next year... Let them pick up 6 more top 55s from the 55major plus division and they would Kill all the Major teams! That is the Logic that has to change.. I believe that SSUSA will be addressing this at the Winter meeting!

I'm sure Tim wanted to hear SSUSA made a mistake on verbiage or the rule That SSUSA corrected as Fran stated. I believe if he were less hostile in his rhetoric, he would of probably got what he wanted.. Just because Tim is hated by some or many, doesn't mean he was totally wrong on his thinking on this subject.. The fact that any team could pick up up to 8 players to any WMC roster is ridiculous! IMO

IMO, I think teams should only be limited to two to three pick ups from the same age level and division or next age level older and same level major 50s can only pick up major 55s and so on.

Sorry for the long post!
Dec. 1, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

BW The top 55+ guys can play at any level! I hear summerville will have 8 to 9 55+ guys on their 50major roster this year coming up! After we played them in Reno this year in 50 Major plus, three or 4 of them went over to Summy's and played in the 55major plus Bracket..

At the end of the day, I just think that you shouldn't be able to load a team in a lower division with plus talent.. I just showed you how 55plus Ball players are that good!

If you let a good 50 Major team pick up the top 55 plus guys, you will basically be putting in a 50 major plus talented team to play against 50 major teams IMO.

Never, Ever should a team going to worlds in division lower than Major Plus, be able to pick up 5 or more players for the World Masters!
Do the math, that is 50 percent of a starting team! If they do that, they should be put in the plus division. IMO!
Nov. 21, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tim's Appeal Denied

Yes Mango..Our Manager filed and were dropped back down last year to Major.. MTC's team went to a all 55 and over team so they were allowed to participate at the next age group down a level. They had to drop to 50 age group player in order to achieve this..They had a hell of a run for an all 55 team in the 50 major division..
Nov. 21, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tim's Appeal Denied

Mulewhipper, when MTC dropped Rennels and Kurdy, they were allowed to play 55s this year with a true 55 team. The rules for SSUSA state that a 55-
plus player are allowed to play 50 major level , they have an equal rating.. so hence no rennels or Kurdy allowed to play with them on either level.

Nov. 21, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tim's Appeal Denied

Donll, almost correct with your post... MTC was rated 50 major plus in 2014, however they moved to 55 plus this year and had to drop two players... yes I said Drop two of their players that were under 54 years old and had to play with a 55 and over roster at the WMC and throughout the year. So, their team was not the some 50 plus team..
Nov. 18, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: First time for everything

Hey Omar, I had a good buddy of mine about 20 years ago... have the sun in his face playing right center field lose a line drive in the sun... it hit him in the forehead and bounce 20 feet into the air and about 20 feet back over a 16 foot high fence... I still can't believe that happened he was a good 15 to 20 feet from the fence... he was ok but it was truly an amazing bounce for an HR.
Nov. 5, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Ratings for the New Season

Kreugs, can we pick you up for this season.. Warriors could use your bat!;-)
Nov. 5, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Ratings for the New Season

Seems to me MTCJv should be the Champions of the Major division over Cornerstone this year by default... Cornerstone picked up a player from another team that wasn't released this year.. Staff knows who we are talking about and should clarify to everyone their findings.. My feeling is, there are way to many loopholes to letting teams beef up for worlds! the fact that teams can pick up players who have never played one inning with a team all year is a joke all by itself! IMO!
Oct. 22, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Does anyone know if 14 games at a senior worlds is a record

I think the record is `13 and 2/7ths... what do I know? ;-)
Oct. 13, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Major 40+ Brackets

Damn Dave.. you guys have such low overhead... can I buy Stock in SSUSA? ;-)
Oct. 11, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Can you get faster?

you can get faster but adding a 10th of a second to your 40 time might not be what you are looking for... and would take a lot of effort. They don't have shaved legs for 71 year olds ;-)
Oct. 11, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Outfield conditions a BLD

We played there two weeks ago.. it was in good shape... I saw no divots or any problems in the OF... I expected to see these problems, however I must admit, it was in good shape.
Sept. 23, 2015
swing for the fences
Topic: Bats
Discussion: The care of senior bats

I would bet your bats are fine.. it was most likely the Balls you were using.. in 104 degrees the Trump Stote loses MPH off the bat..
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