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new rule 6.16 WIND OR SUN AFFECTING BOTH PITCHERS

» B.J.: I have a question...when I first read this I assumed that it was ...
      »B.J.: sorry should have been amended rule 6.16
      »Dbax: This is really stupid. Move the pitcher to the left or right and they ...
      »Omar Khayyam: Dbax, I agree that this rule change has nothing to do with safety, ...
      »Dbax: Like I said, it's part of the game. Your effective strategy got you ...
      »cronin51: The Field Director "ALLOW" the pitcher to pitch from 6 feet out. Well ...
      »Dbax: You're right! The way it's written, it doesn't make sense.
      »B.J.: Cronin51....according to this change and the way it is written you ...
      »NYGNYY: Recently in Phoenix I played in a few games where the sun was a ...
      »GI: First of all before I get to discussion, I want to say to all you ...
      »mad dog: well again the whiny hitters get to move the pitcher for their ...
      »cronin51: B.J., not looking for a pissing contest but the way I read it if I am ...
      »SSUSA Staff: NYGNYY - The "Wind" part of the rule addresses extreme windy ...
      »cronin51: SSUSA Staff, can you shed some light on this rule pertaining to the ...
      »SSUSA Staff: This amendment affects the batter's sun issue only. When BOTH ...
      »cronin51: Thank you
      »Dbax: Even after this explanation, it's still silly.
      »BruceinGa: I can just imagine the umpire's thoughts after being asked to move ...
      »k man: Bruce, you bring up an interesting point about the mat but I can ...
      »16wood: With each additional rule that is added, the game is getting more and ...
      »swing for the fences : I agree with 16wood, it seems silly to move the pitcher for the ...
      »StevenL.Imlay: I strongly agree with Bob - don't schedule games at those times of ...
      »Mason's Grandpa: I do agree with not playing games on the fields that have SUN issues. ...
      »OZ40: Mason, I thought once the game is officially started the umpire has ...
      »Mason's Grandpa: I agree they should not be one in the same. During a game in ...
      »stick8: This happened to us (OKI at the time) during the last game of the day ...
      »Mason's Grandpa: No disrespect to SSUSA. They are doing the best they can. It seems ...
      »TheCat43: Let's see... If I move the pitcher to my left about six feet from ...
      »curveball: Cat, wouldn't you rotate to keep the pitcher at the same angle? We ...
      »TheCat43: Curveball: Perhaps I don't understand. But it seemed that the ...
      »garyheifner: We were in an SPA World championship game. 3 of our left handed ...
      »Dbax: During the Winter Worlds, in a morning game against Joe Browns All ...
      »TheCat43: Somebody had no commons sense - Why not move to a different field if ...
      »Dbax: I was being sarcastic.
      »TheCat43: @#$%^????
      »Mason's Grandpa: I guess what it comes down to is both teams need to refuse to play ...
      »Duke: Mad dog, I concur with your comment! SSUSA Staff, Your statement ...
      »BCA80: In Phoenix, the sun was in the batter's eyes a couple of games. The ...
      »16wood: It's my feeling that most MLB parks are built with the right field ...
      »BCA80: It's actually written in to the MLB rulebook (1.04)-- "It is ...
      »16wood: Yep, but several stadiums must have received variances because their ...
40 Dec. 22, 2015 1929

Correct Call???

» HJ: Man on first 1 out. Batter hits slow grounder to SS. SS throws to ...
      »BruceinGa: My understanding it that there MUST be a throw to first for the ...
      »JimmyG: Ump was incorrect. Here is the rule from ssusa rulebook. It clearly ...
      »HJ: I would like staff to give its opinion. To me, "If there is a play" ...
      »stick8: I interpret "if there is a play" to mean a throw is made to first for ...
      »BruceinGa: I can see the interpretation "if there is a play" to mean there is an ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The intent of the rule is clear to the Rules Committee: The white bag ...
      »stever: According to rule 8.4(1), "the defensive player may use either ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The double first base is to be used on an assigned basis by the ...
      »azcard: If drawn into foul territory by a throw may the first baseman touch ...
      »B.J.: rule 8.4 1....again thet cannot use the orange bag only on a ...
      »NYGNYY: I am getting lost here-if the rule is for safety first and ...
      »OZ40: What's so difficult about a batter touching the orange bag when he's ...
      »Pgh Yinzer: The smart thing for an infielder to do is always throw the ball to ...
      »B.J.: if a fielder boots a ball and the runner passes 1st base and is down ...
14 Dec. 18, 2015 4222

runner leaves base

» 1jonsey: no outs, runner on 1st and 2nd, batter hits into what he thinks is a ...
      »stick8: He's out for going into the dugout.
      »Pgh Yinzer: Not if timeout was called
      »B.J.: B/R is out....even if time out was called and he entered the dugout ...
3 Dec. 18, 2015 805

True AAA rules applied at Worlds

» RoosterBL: Home run rule for 50AAA is 3 and dead ball out after, however this ...
      »Pgh Yinzer: Lorenzi Park does not have a yellow line on fences thus the rule for ...
1 Dec. 17, 2015 719

carrying bat to first base

» gr8hit42: is there a rule that states that - it is an out for a batter/runner ...
      »garyheifner: My understanding is that is not an out unless the 1st baseman is ...
      »B.J.: No....as long as the batter/runner does not interfere with a fielder
      »stattad: I found this comment on another thread. "You can carry it all the ...
      »Omar Khayyam: I had a player on my team with a habit of carrying his bat all the ...
4 Dec. 15, 2015 563

INFIELDER or OUTFIELDER?

» Bubble Gum: Situation: Runners on 1st and 2nd. Less than 2 Out. Both th ...
      »B.J.: there is no distinction between infielder/outfielder on an infield ...
      »?: OK! So how far out does the infield actually extend?
      »TexasTransplant: The cut of the infield or the distance of the infielder from the ...
      »swing for the fences : It is a call at the discretion of the umpire.. if the umpire feels ...
4 Dec. 9, 2015 674

Team Regions

» Pieman: §13.1(3) • TEAM REGIONS OF SSWC– A 2014 Rules Committee instruction ...
0 Dec. 7, 2015 303

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RULING • WMC 50-Major Matter

» SSUSA Staff: Enough is enough. As of today, we have removed all Message Board ...
      »OZ40: A heart felt "Thank You". Throughout this whole forum fiasco you have ...
      »Crusher23: Thank you. It's about time. Your tolerance of his antics is ...
      »Fabe: Mahalo for your insightful response! Your office has given us a clear ...
      »Slap hitter: THANK YOU! I would have been the first on this post to thank you for ...
      »Mango: Unbelievable patience exerted by SSUSA especially Fran and Dave for a ...
      »Dancer: I was getting sick of it too and thank you. GOOD DECISION !
      »Olden Slow: Bravo..You have much more patience than I would..
      »TOMAR77: Now I know what, "Beating a Dead Horse to Death", is all about. I ...
      »Full Monty: In the words of a famous Cartoon Character.... "YABBA DABBA ...
      »Player: My kudos also Fran! I was sick and tired of the continuing nonsense ...
      »TheCat43: Like the others said, you have proven SSUSA to be extremely patient ...
      »The real deal: Real disappointed that the deleted thread turned into a pissing ...
      »Hammer22: Just read Tim's screen shots on the oldscout message board. For all ...
      »Mango: Real Deal and Hammer, I just went on the old scout and looked at ...
      »Dbax: Real Deal, your question was answered by Fran on Nov. 19th.
      »Crusher23: I had been observing the entire original "discussion" prior to it ...
      »16wood: The language has been there for years but this entire episode was ...
      »Slap hitter: One of The worst parts (of many) of all this was calling the GOOD ...
      »Olden Slow: Slap, 2% ??? That's kind of high isn't it ? :-)
      »swing for the fences : BW, I don't think Tim's Tactics with Fran and Dave where in the best ...
      »jimperry19: I think if you are going to ban Tim from defending himself then you ...
      »JamesLG: Great post Jim Perry. I believe there needs to be changes also an ...
      »Stretch14: He gave the sport a bad name.
      »crusher: Great jimperry19. I totally believe you play with the players you ...
      »Slap hitter: Jimperry19--With all due respect, I went back and read every post, ...
      »Allan55: I would like to turn this thread to finding a solution to the problem ...
      »southernson: It's not too far fetched to get different answers from different ...
      »Crusher23: The tournament add-on rules are fine the way they are: What is ...
      »16wood: "Managers must APPLY to SSUSA for approval of these players in ...
      »jimperry19: Two quick things: Crusher23's disclaimer is one of the funniest ...
      »Crusher23: Heh heh. Just killing time with a smile brother...
      »Olden Slow: Here is my take..I don't know Tim or Slap..But the question was asked ...
      »Mario: It will be interesting next year when a bunch of 55 Major plus teams ...
      »hitnrun5: How come nobody is complaining that Joe Brown's Allstars 60 major ...
      »swing for the fences : Probably True, Hitnrun 5... however there is a huge cliff between 60 ...
      »crump22: Mario, when Tim 55 major plus team played in the 50 major, that was ...
      »bkb555: seems like a lot of comments for and against Tim's 2 month ...
      »TheCat43: Most of these posts are right on the money in regards to trusting ...
      »donll: Swing I agree with you. Having 9 50 major plus players, or even 12 ...
      »swing for the fences : Donll, Tim admitted that with his teams success this year they ...
      »rightrj1: I sure hear a lot of Whining!!! "Oh you have 55 major plus players on ...
      »swing for the fences : ronnie, if it is about the Major plus division I agree.. but when you ...
      »swing for the fences : should of read once again on my last sentence... I am discussing ...
      »rightrj1: Rickie, I hear ya! but I don't agree..This is RECEATIONAL ...
      »Slap hitter: Crusher 23 and 16 wood-- Nice posts! Nice summary! Jimperry 19--I ...
      »LeeLee50: donll, Really you are going to ask that same question again. You ...
      »STL0: With respect to this whole discussion, does anyone think it is a ...
      »neck10: there's already enough rule's let's just play ball.
      »Slap hitter: Amen Neck10!
      »STL0: Neck10/ Slap hitter: I am always one to just jump on the field and ...
      »donll: LeeLee. I heard that explanation from both you and Mango. i'm not ...
      »Joncon: At least he livened things up in here. Hell, I even miss ...
      »Thin2Win: WOW Really? Banned? For freedom of speech? Sure am glad all you ...
      »Dbax: A true pansie posts anonymously.
      »LeeLee50: donll, You need to go get some help this diarrhea of the mouth is ...
      »LeeLee50: Before you even get started,I believe Tim's complaint is against the ...
      »titanhd: Thin2 Win. You ranted and then claimed that you have "zero dog in the ...
      »LeeLee50: titanhd, I guess you could assume that I have a dog in the fight? ...
      »swing for the fences : Lee Lee, I have to friends on your team.. Two of my best friends.. ...
      »Thin2Win: I really could care less who it was that was ranting about issues ...
      »Webbie25: Thin2win-who was hiding in the bushes? SSUSA had their annual ...
      »Dbax: Well said Mark. This guy has been no where around during this entire ...
      »TheCat43: I gotta stick up for LeeLee a little bit. I take him at his word ...
      »Bballer3: ---- Just some food for thought... No matter how you want to spin it, ...
      »Benji4: For those of you that are teammates of Tim I commend you for standing ...
      »TheCat43: Bballer: I get your point, but here is some food for thought for you ...
      »Cuervo13: Didn't millette play A/AA/major for 25 years plus? Don't think that's ...
      »Webbie25: I debated Tim several times here. I admit I DO NOT understand the ...
      »Slap hitter: Webbie25...Your last four sentences are spot on! WELL DONE! As ...
      »Bballer3: Cat43 - you make all valid points and I dont disagree with you at ...
      »OZ40: Good God, who says senior men don't enjoy the soap operas? ...
      »TheCat43: Bballer: I think we're in basic agreement. In regards to mid level ...
      »michael697: softball you mean that sport that means nothing and what kids plays ...
      »southernson: Guys I truly have no direct dog on either side of the fence, but this ...
      »SSUSA Staff: The SSUSA Rules Committee discussed the competition related aspects ...
75 Dec. 7, 2015 5128

Batter interference

» reklawr: If a batter intentionally reaches out and either catches or touches a ...
      »B.J.: if the pitch had any chance what so ever of hitting the strike mat ...
      »BruceinGa: While playing in a young guy's NSA tournament 3 yrs ago I saw a ...
2 Dec. 1, 2015 479

Requirements of Rec team

» dtuf: I'm curious, what are the requirements to play as a Rec team?
      »Fred S: No requirements except for age. It's to have fun playing.
      »Stretch14: That's the way it should be for all the teams.
2 Nov. 19, 2015 299

Question for SSUSA or any one who might know.

» rick#8: I last played 55 Major Plus in 2012 and 50 Major in 2013, i have not ...
      »SSUSA Staff: rick#8 ... Your rating experience history has a two-year "shelf life" ...
      »rick#8: The way I am reading this , it seems like a 3 year shelf life and not ...
      »SSUSA Staff: rick#8 ... Here's what you missed: Please don't confuse "calendar ...
      »DaveDowell: Not so fast, Tim! ... This is going to be hilarious! ... You would be ...
      »DOERBAUM: YO TIM !!!! AT OVER 50 YEARS OLD DONT YOU THING ITS TIME TO CHANGE ...
5 Nov. 12, 2015 1475

softballs

» grayhitter59: I understand that for every tournament played directors hand each ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Yes they may be used if they have the SSUSA logo and are the Anaconda ...
1 Nov. 9, 2015 410

Runner Interference at Second Base

» TexasTransplant: We have an ongoing discussion/argument on our team that flares up ...
      »GSWP001: I was called out at second at St George by this supposed rule. I ...
      »B.J.: a runner that goes into 2nd base standing up and bumps a fielder ...
      »stick8: Texas Transplant those umpires in that other forum are exactly ...
3 Oct. 16, 2015 734

Do we have this rule

» garyheifner: Staff In the American league play off game last night the catcher ...
      »DOLFAN: I'm going to say NO, because once the pitcher pitches the ball and ...
      »B.J.: DOLFAN you are correct....once the ball hits the ground or strike ...
      »U-Turn: And to Add to that is the catcher is out of play!
3 Oct. 15, 2015 605

Is it illegal to glue your endcap back in?

» rh25: According to the latest Senior Softball Newspaper a player was ...
      »OZ40: I brought up this exact scenario a while back when the cap popped of ...
      »taits: In 2012 I had my OG grey Combat endcap break in half . I called ...
      »tattooball: The bat you are referring to has taper proof inside coating. If the ...
      »tattooball: March 14, 2013 ju25 Men's 55 160 posts By the way Easton stamps ...
      »rh25: The article never mentioned the bat was shaved. From your comments I ...
      »B.J.: I'd like to know if STAFF considers a glued on end cap an illegal ...
      »tattooball: The bat was not determined to illegal at the field from what I saw. ...
      »Pgh Yinzer: That is considered an altered bat if ha glue end cap back into bat.. ...
      »Az Iz: BUY A NEW BAT... GLUE THE END CAP... USE GLUED BAT FOR BATTING ...
      »curveball: Hey Yinzer, I feel you owe me a refund. That Ultra II Legacy you ...
      »Pgh Yinzer: Hey Robbie the way I look at it you owe me a few more dinero.. LMAO ...
11 Oct. 10, 2015 1591

No batters box, Umpire calling batter out for hitting outside the batters box

» chris7907: Hey everyone. First time poster here. I have a quick question. I play ...
      »mad dog: lined out or not..the box is still there.....most umps don't/won't ...
      »DCPete: As long as the batter doesn't step on the plate or directly in front ...
      »Katzy63: So any call that has to do with going over and beyond a marked ...
      »DCPete: What part of the "box lines are usually gone by the 2nd inning" don't ...
      »STL0: We don't really have all of the details but every time I've see this ...
      »chris7907: I found this page which claims that it pulled its facts from the ASA ...
      »jfsully: In most associations (all that I know of) the batter's bx exists ...
      »Katzy63: If you look at OUR rules, and by that I mean SSUSA, they really want ...
      »joel 1975: not only was there no line in front of batter box umpire refused to ...
      »OZ40: For me to make that call it's got to be so obvious that Stevie Wonder ...
      »Joncon: """"Are you really saying it's OK for the ump to call the batter out ...
      »DCPete: Can't remember the last time we played on a field with the baselines ...
      »Joncon: """"Can't remember the last time we played on a field with the ...
      »Dbax: If you play at Sunset, on the two north fields, there are no fair or ...
      »STL0: What I have a problem with is teams that purposely remove the front ...
      »joel 1975: hey most of the ump's we saw in vegas were great,that one guy in the ...
      »joel 1975: katzy63 if your so worried about pitcher use the screen,then it ...
      »joel 1975: face protector was word I was looking for it doesn't say head ...
      »neck10: Joel the screen should be optional pitcher can use if he or she ...
      »DCPete: STL0; It actually says in the SSUSA rules that a batter should be ...
      »BruceinGa: STL0, we had two called out at Desert Breeze and none at BLD. Imo ...
      »B.J.: calling a batter out for being out of the box...at many tournaments ...
      »neck10: B.J. don't you think it's kind of odd to play softball for 44 years 7 ...
      »Turbo 34: The problem I have with an umpire calling a batter Out for stepping ...
      »Sparky.1: If Senior Ball (all Associations) would ever take my suggestion and ...
      »B.J.: Neck, I don't disagree with you about it being odd...I do know that ...
      »Mac33: There were more than a few guys called out at Fenway at BLD in the 55 ...
27 Oct. 2, 2015 1601

Reclassification of teams

» txnighttrain: Can someone explain how a team can be reclassified on Sept 4, 2015 (I ...
0 Sept. 13, 2015 591

Baseloaded

» grayhitter59: Senerio; Bases loaded, 1 out bottom of 7th inning, batter hits a ...
      »swing for the fences : simple, second out recorded at home and everyone else is safe on ...
      »DMac: Swing is 100% correct. If the runner on second scored then the game ...
      »stick8: Had a similar type play in a USSSA world tournament about 7 years ...
      »STL0: Stick8: You got yelled at for 15 minutes and had to throw at least ...
      »stick8: Well after calling the runner out on the force there was a lot of ...
      »swing for the fences : Stick8, They could change to rule to a walk off walk... and make it ...
      »stick8: They could do that swing. In USSSA they did that on dead ball appeal ...
      »STL0: Stick: That's the first time I have heard of a call of "ballgame" ...
      »stick8: Well, it's not universally accepted or required that an umpire must ...
      »stick8: Let me add this is USSSA, other associations, including senior ball, ...
10 Sept. 4, 2015 1091

Another Safe or out Question

» wazoo: Recently playing in the SSUSA Birmingham Southern Championship ...
      »B.J.: as an umpire, you have to take responsibility for your actions on the ...
      »BruceinGa: I disagree with BJ, double play. Although I have heard of "do ...
      »Turbo 34: Sure wish we had that umpire where we play. We had bases loaded and ...
      »swing for the fences : I agree with BJ... anytime a umpire can correct a bad call, kudos to ...
      »B.J.: Bruce.....this isn't a do over...the umpire by his own error put the ...
      »mck71: As an umpire for over 20 years, I believe it is my responsibility to ...
      »BruceinGa: This reminds me of a situation that a friend encountered. After a ...
      »Nancy Allen: Not even going to comment on the umpire part. I have lost counts a ...
      »BruceinGa: Agreed Nancy! One of the teams that I played with this year would ...
      »Webbie25: I would call an out on the fly ball, batter back to first base ...
      »The Screamer5: Another good one! As unfortunate as it sounds, the umpire shouldn't ...
      »Nancy Allen: This is not an NA opinion, but my 2 man partner would say, you ...
      »stick8: Imagine the championship game of the SSUSA Worlds in Las Vegas. The ...
      »B.J.: STAFF...I would like to know what your ruling would be....as an ...
      »SSUSA Staff: B.J., we agree with you ... We were informed by the Tournament ...
      »The Screamer5: I love this site...where we can respectfully discuss these types of ...
      »SSUSA Staff: Screamer ... We don't disagree at all ... The immediately previous ...
      »swing for the fences : Hey Screamer and Staff.. I think that Most players want the calls to ...
      »OZ40: Most tournaments have an official score keeper, the umpire SHOULD ...
      »The Screamer5: Good points Swing and OZ. Like you said, I guess it all comes down to ...
      »stick8: Swing, of course players want calls to be correct, umpires do as ...
      »swing for the fences : let's put it this way... if guys ask if the umpire can ask the other ...
      »swing for the fences : and one other thing.. it's not about the umpires and their feelings.. ...
      »stick8: Well said Swing.
      »swing for the fences : Thanks Stick8... good conversation!
      »Webbie25: Stick-I loved your World Champion example, and in this crazy game I ...
      »grayhitter59: I think it should be called whatever is fair for one team or the ...
      »Nancy Allen: Webbie25, I feel as an umpire that I am a professional. I do not get ...
      »stick8: Webbie, as one who has umpired numerous USSSA qualifiers, ...
      »wazoo: Thanks for the great input, their was more involved that I didn't ...
      »Webbie25: Nancy, I did not mean to offend you. By working out the signals you ...
      »Nancy Allen: Dear Webbie25, I was not offended. I just think every paid umpire ...
      »hitman: While other associations would have rewarded both Teams with first ...
      »Antique Road Show: Here's one for the armchair umpires: NSA Mens D....bases loaded 1 ...
      »B.J.: sounds like you were doing 1 man....a lot to watch but yes if all ...
      »stick8: Antique when you called time that's it, the play is dead. Just from ...
36 Sept. 4, 2015 1639

bases being loaded

» nine: What should be the proper call when bases are loaded and there is a ...
      »DaveDowell: The only thing certain from your limited factual circumstances ...
      »DieselDan: "Out."
      »DaveDowell: "Safe" ... If the first "bang" of the "bang/bang" was the foot of the ...
      »crusher: It was a triple play, and 3 bangs not 2 bangs bang1 guy on third ...
      »stick8: Crusher i have a triple play on that.
      »Crusher 70: Hey Crusher 70, you youngsters are getting more bang for your buck ...
      »Pull My Finger: "bang bang your dead!"
      »crusher: C-70 I play with Bank of Rison 70 AAA. My number 51. Will be ...
8 Aug. 30, 2015 612
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