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Discussion: Has Anyone Else Had Problems With The Reebok ME'LEE Legend Senior Softball Bat Because Mine Cracked After 45 Hits Any Durability Problems?

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Jan. 20, 2011
Hombre33
3 posts
Has Anyone Else Had Problems With The Reebok ME'LEE Legend Senior Softball Bat Because Mine Cracked After 45 Hits Any Durability Problems?
Well my Reebok ME'LEE Senior Bat Fell apart I had about 45 hits on it, Be Careful if you are thinking of buying one I would not do it, You are better off with a Miken.These Reebok bats are not Durable.
Jan. 21, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
Mine broke after 60 swings. Shipped it to the Reebok Rep for evaluation. I'm still awaiting word. Hopefully they will do the right thing.
Jan. 21, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
367 posts
I broke a Red Miken II on the first swing, my Reebok has 350 swings on it right now. My expierience with the Mikens was not a pleasant one. I broke 3 and had a total of 250 swings on them. I'll stick with this Reebok for now.
Jan. 21, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Just curious. Do all you guys really count the number of swings on your bats? And why?
Jan. 21, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
367 posts
I don't count the number of swings on bats, but I do count how many swings I take in bp and what bat I used. And when a bat breaks on the first swing in a game, you kinda remember that. If you are taking 50 to 100 swings a day to stay on top of your game, that gets real expensive. I just want a bat that will last!!!!
Jan. 21, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Mario, durability is what is sacrificed when guys insist on the hottest bats around. I don't think there is a very effective way to give the best of both.

When guys want to live on the edge, sometimes they fall off.
Jan. 21, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
367 posts
Gary19, I agree, but these senior bats are what we have to deal with right now and I'll take the Reebok until I can find something else that will out last them.
Jan. 21, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Yes we do count swings on new products that have not been proven! You would be a fool not to. My Combat took over 160 swings to get were its real Hot. And I now have over 300 and stopped counting. I DO EXPECT OVER 300 hack at least from this Reebok.
Kennard
Jan. 21, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
I don't count, but I knew that I had hit 2 buckets of 20 balls one week and noticed the bat was cracked after the first bucket the following week. I have had 3 Red Ultra's break in the past year and a half with not many swings on them, probably a few hundred swings a piece. I have 2 MM Senior Combats that are over a year old and have hundreds of swings on them and still going strong.
Jan. 21, 2011
stick8
1261 posts
Mario, just a suggestion here. To make your bats last you may wish to use a different bat when taking bp. Using your Reebok bat only during games might make the bat last longer. For example, in bp I use a 4 year old Miken Freak Unlimited. In a game I use a TPS Voltage. Only a suggestion
Jan. 21, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
I don't have the money like some of you upper Middle Class People, So how many swings I get on a bat for the money that I paid for it, means a hellava lot to me. The truth about this bat is “IT HOT OUT OF THE BOX! NO BREAKIN BP NEEDED! Use for games only or to show it off. There is nothing like it, unless you use shaved fixed bats.
Jan. 21, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
Hombre33

How about some details about how the bat broke.

1) What part of the bat is broke?

2) What was the temperature when it broke?

3) What kind of balls core/comp were you hitting?
Jan. 21, 2011
La Legends
1 posts
My 26el busted somewhere between 150-160 cuts. All cuts were taken in 65-70 degree weather.
Jan. 21, 2011
softball4b
Men's 60
719 posts
Today, we were hitting in 75 degree temps. My bat 28 EL, 30 swings, hot out of the wrapper. Few stress lines in the paint. 10+ balls over 300', 5 or so over 330', 2 over 360.

My buddy swinging a 29 EL, not typically a HR hitter.Total of 40 swings and it cracks. Typical composite crack around the bat in a jagged pattern. We received our bats from different individuals. Mine came from Hollis, Castro's was part of a group that was sold in Hemet last week. As I understand it, 3 of that group have already cracked.

Overall the bat seems to have comparable distance when compared to my MM and U2. If it cracks anytime before 500 swings, I won't swing another one.

Mike Adair
Jan. 21, 2011
JamesLG
296 posts

I am expecting delivery of my 28 EL soon and will not take BP with it. I bought this bat because of the hype that is was durable and hope it lives up to that plus has some pop. If it does not will just go back to the U2. I am sure Miken is paying attention to what is going on and hopefully they can make there bats a little stronger. I don't mind a bat breaking in 300 swings but in less than 100 something needs to be done. I guess money talks and we the players should buy the best bang for the buck.

Thanks:

James
Jan. 22, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
My 28EL Reebok broke in 60 swings in 60-70 degree weather. It came from Hollis/Dorrell.
Jan. 22, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
367 posts
Since braking these senior bats is the norm, I no longer use them in BP. I also broke a Freak Plus after 6-700 swings. Just want a bat that will last.
Jan. 22, 2011
leftyfalcon
Men's 65
158 posts
Does anybody have a reebok that hasn't broke in less than 150 swings. I have a 28EL coming in soon and I can't cancel cause I ordered from a friend. He wouldn't knowingly screw anyone and sell them a bad bat .In the late summer when it was hot that's all you heard was how many swings this bat can give a major+ player. I hope they find the problem soon for all of us that want a bat that can last.
Jan. 22, 2011
birdie
Men's 60
676 posts
Great question. I did not order one but the demos were great.I am waiting to see what happens. Had a few teammates order some and will see how the results turn out. Not a good time of year to judge because of the weather no matter what part of the country you are from except maybe Hawaii. Thanks Harry
Jan. 22, 2011
DoubleL10
Men's 65
809 posts
I don't order "the bat du jour" anymore until the reviews are in. I remember several years ago I bought a 3DX that a number of guys were touting as "the next great bat". I saw guys swing it and it appeared hot. I used one from a friend after they got knocked out of a tourney and it WAS hot. When I received mine, it was a DUD! Come to find out, these guys were swinging DEMOS and the production sticks were not nearly as good. I will not make that mistake again!
Jan. 22, 2011
birdie
Men's 60
676 posts
Larry, I agree with you. I do think that the time was right and the demos are better than the real ones. Thanks Harry
Jan. 24, 2011
Mario
Men's 50
367 posts
I have a 29 oz Reebok that has 370 swings on it.
Jan. 24, 2011
softball4b
Men's 60
719 posts
Used the 28 EL in 3 games with great weather. Weighted different than my other bats so my swing was a little off sometimes a lot off. Hit one on the screws..320 fence and it hit 70 feet behind that. My plan is not to use it, except in 80 degree temperatures.
Jan. 24, 2011
stick8
1261 posts
If it's destiny for me to crack or dent a bat then I'm going to sure has hell make sure I do it in a game.
Jan. 24, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
CRACKED my Yellow Melee 27 EL, Did it this pass Thursday less than 80 swings, real hard to see the crack because of the graphics’ but you could hear it when it cracked. I took it to Hemet, CA (SCSSA), turn the crack facing the catcher. 2 Hits with it Sunday, the crack didn't get any larger but I'm sending it back. I also bought a 28 Balance because the word at the Park was that the End Loads are cracking and the Balance bats have been lasting. If anyone has cracked a balance please say so. We have been swing both 27oz balance and end load and the end load are not lasting. If you have one, save it for games, there is no break in period. I found that out the hard way. I was in love with that bat and it cracked much too early. Now I'm hooked on the Distant, The red one has POP good POP but the EL was Ridiculous. I like to hear about the Red Melee Legend
Kennard
Jan. 24, 2011
outfielder
Men's 65
58 posts
Gary19, just curious, what bat do you use
Jan. 25, 2011
RecMan13
17 posts
I have a 28oz end loaded Reebok that has over 400 swings on it. So far, no signs of the bat breaking...I have been very happy with the new Reebok bat!!
Jan. 25, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
leftyfalcon: I had 300 plus hits with a 27 balanced Melee. No problems.
Jan. 25, 2011
leftyfalcon
Men's 65
158 posts
Thanks surf88 and recman13. I still plan on getting the reebok 28el. Might be a better hot weather bat. I just want bp with it and I might just wait until it gets around 75 degrees before I swing it.
Jan. 25, 2011
Tater50
336 posts
DoubleL10: I agree about the 3DX; horrible.

BTW: How do you guys calculate swings on your bat; I never keep up with my swings. Do you figure 10 BPs @ 50 approx. strokes? Just wondering; I never keep up with it.

Tater50
Jan. 25, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Ultra 2.
Jan. 26, 2011
Webbie25
Men's 60
1952 posts
My Reebok balanced has about 30 cuts on it in game competition-holding up so far. I have hit 5 out with it, but am not quite comfortable with the swing of it yet so I am shelving it until after the TOC. It does have pop, for sure. It has been way too cold in Albuquerque to use it for BP.
Jan. 27, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
There may be some bats with flaws as there are flawed items in every product manufactured. It really turns out to be the consumer/customer care that follows an issue. Warm temperature seems to be an important factor. BP in chilly weather may not be wise. On the whole, there has been minimal breakage,as has been the case with other manufacturers products. R&D will address the issues. Perhaps everyone will experience a fair and reasonable outcome. Hopefully,this will result in a better product and will ultimately be a healthy addition to the industry. reebokmeleelegend.com
Jan. 27, 2011
JamesLG
296 posts

I agree 100% that there will be duds in startup of just about any product but if there is it is up to that company to make good on the duds so they can build there reputation for selling a quility product.

Thanks:

James
Jan. 28, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
Exactly!
Jan. 28, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
That is my hope and my expectation. If the company does right by consumers, I'm pleased. If they do not, I will not remain part of the team. Ed
Jan. 30, 2011
Pitcherman
Men's 50
40 posts
Broke my senior 27 EL Reebok yesterday after about 50-75 swings indoors using regular balls. It still had the plastic on it. Not sure if they will do anything for me on it but if not, I will go back to my Combats which are way more durable.
Jan. 30, 2011
birdie
Men's 60
676 posts
Pitcherman. I know a bunch of my teammates just got the new bat and they decided not to use them indoors. The balls are regular the temp is 70. I think that the balls and bats will get cold even if they are stored inside. The drive to the cage could have an effect on the bat and balls if the weather is always in the 30s. Thanks Harry
Jan. 30, 2011
Atefft
Men's 50
14 posts
Reebok Senior Bat = More Pop and Durability or so their advertisement says? http://www.seniorsoftballbats.com/
Jan. 30, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
And, after all, we 'know' that every company's ads are completely truthful and objective.
Jan. 30, 2011
armiho211
Men's 70
406 posts
I AM JUMPING ON THIS BANDWAGON- i ordered a 27 oz senior melee balanced on 1/19/11, from a reebok dealer. recd it on 1/24/11, took it to batting practice today ( sunday 1/30 ) in arlington,tx, 72 degrees. hit it about 30 swings, and it cracked 8-10" from the top, all the way around. my problem is that i ordered a 28 oz in november,which " has not" come in yet. i hope they ( reebok ) will allow me to cancell it, if they dont fix my broken bat problem. i emailed surf 88 a copy of the invoice on the broken one today ( 1/30 ). i hope he can handle this for me. 4 or 5 guys on my team were planning to order one, they are holding back now until this matter/problem is resolved. by the way, i am a 69 yr old guy, so i am not a power hitter.
Jan. 30, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
armiho211

How did you manage to get your Reebok Melee Legend bat in 5 days of your order?

I made an order for that bat several days before Christmas and still can't even get a UPS Tracking number.

What dealer did you deal with?








Jan. 31, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
Every manufactured product is going to have some percentage of problems. It comes down to the companies desire to solve problems and correct flaws. It also boils down to their consumer service and cooperation.At the same time, it comes down to how the consumer works with the company. Consumers can choose a patient and cooperative path or a public forum notification, which may not be construed as cooperative by the company.Contact your rep and get the address where bats are to be sent. Send the bat with a brief description of what happened, where it happened, approximate swings and what was temp. Posting it on public forums may not be the best path to take to get problems solved. Just trying to be helpful with this thread. Ed http://www.reebokmeleelegend.com
Jan. 31, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
surf88



Do you know of anybody other than armiho211 getting a Reebok Melee Legend delivered 5 days after making the order?

If so, tell me how to do it?

Jan. 31, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
What is this a government conspiracy we are not allowed to talk about?? Truth is, they are breaking and Reebok is not acting swiftly to replace defective bats.
Jan. 31, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
send me an email.Can't and won't discuss it in this forum. ed@ewandrews.com
Jan. 31, 2011
turn2
484 posts
He may have gotten the bat from a rep who had them in stock. Also I see several guys that are selling them on Ebay and have them ready to ship.
Later
Donnie
Jan. 31, 2011
Pitcherman
Men's 50
40 posts
Surf88, while I respect everyone's opinions here, this is a forum for softball players to share information and I think the fact the these bats are touted as being so durable is the reason why this is a topic that should be shared here. While it is true that maybe the company will do something for all the people that have these durability issues, it still doesn't change the fact that almost-new bats are breaking and the reason I and many others have purchased these bats is the highly touted durability. I do not like having to take my time to deal with this issue even if they do take care of it. It still takes me time and money to resolve it when the only reason I bought this bat was for the supposed durability. Coming from someone who is affiliated with the company, I do not think it appropriate to make veiled threats that if people speak about their problems with the product, that they may not get cooperation from the manufacturer.
Jan. 31, 2011
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
Pitcherman, I was a little taken aback by Surf88's implication as well. Seems like a reputable company will stand behind its product and replace any defective bat, whether the customer had complained publicly or not. They must know that if the product is not durable, there will be hundreds of informal private complaints...and to their potential future customers!
Jan. 31, 2011
wagon487
Men's 50
516 posts
This is why i swing combats, they have the best bat for durability. And the pop and distance is second to none!
Feb. 1, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
Pitcherman and Omar K, well stated. The reps were running from tournament to tournament touting how durable this bat is and taking orders. Now that they are breaking at an alarming rate, we the consumers, are supposed to be quiet and take it on the chin. The " Reebok Rep" that I bought my bat from has somehow nothing to do with the replacement, instead I had to send mine to the East Coast distributor in Mass. and it has been 4 weeks!
Feb. 1, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Guys, what was anyone expecting THEIR reps to be saying?

Buyer beware.
Feb. 1, 2011
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
We were some of the first to swing the Reebok in Austin and there were only "two" players who liked them, they didn't buy one though.
From all of the negative comments and all the news about them breaking.....think I will stay with the "proven" ones. IMO, Ultra 2 and the Toxic, they work for me,
Feb. 1, 2011
titanhd
Men's 50
324 posts
Guys you should have seen this coming.It's all Marketing.
After all, you guys are buying bats from a SHOE company.
Feb. 1, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
P.T. Barnum was correct.
Feb. 1, 2011
Enviro-Vac
Men's 60
388 posts
Gary -that was funy...LMAO
Feb. 1, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
Considered how many numbers have been sold and how few problems exist? Remember how many bats have broken from the other manufacturers, including Miken? It happens. I feel a need to respond to negative feedback. My response was no threat. It was designed only to be helpful. Reps have no control over replacement process but can only be helpful to those who have problems. None of us are pleased with the issues but are certainly hoping it will get resolved and the product made even better. I have heard many positive stories from players who have this bat and love it. I plan to refrain from adding to this thread. It is not productive, in my opinion.
Feb. 1, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
surf, since you are sort of referencing hard data, could you take your post a step further and give us an actual percentage of bats sold that have had reported failures?

Perhaps it is "few problems", but could you quantify that for us?
Feb. 1, 2011
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
Thanks, Gary19, well put. surf88 is right that all the composite bats break, but what is the rate for the Reebok compared to the Miken, for example.
Feb. 1, 2011
hitman
Men's 65
298 posts
I don't have the facts but have heard that it is between 2-3% and it's unfortunate to have any but I have heard that most will be taken care of.
Don't know the Miken or Combat rate but we all know that Miken has been a number 1 selller for some time but due to their breaking problem the door is open for other suppliers.
Question about some of the breaks being cold weather??????
Time will tell!!!!

The Hitman
Feb. 1, 2011
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
order my bat on 1-3 and still not here!!
Feb. 1, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
Below is a thread talking about a U-II breaking. Tons of guys have shared me that their Mikens were breaking left and right. The point, bats are breaking and companies (plural) need to address the reasons why. When the Melee came out, bats were tested and durability was clearly there. Senior players wanted a new product and sales reached the point that inventory could not meet the demand. So, if the percentage above is close to accurate, that is good but it needs to be further reduced and as hitman said, time will tell. Again, the issue is across the board.
Feb. 1, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
Today I discussed the Melee Legend bat breaking problem with a Reebok Order Taker. He indicated to me that of the Reebok Melee Legend bats he dealt with, about 7% have came back broken.

I don't know about you guys, but I think that 1%-2% is bat breakage is acceptable.

Seven percent breakage is just too much for a so called durable bat.



Feb. 1, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
surf, not sure how much "addressing" the companies can do. As long as guys insist on the pop of the special bats durability will be sacrificed.

You cannot technologically have both.
Feb. 1, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
Today I discussed the Melee Legend bat breaking problem with a Reebok Order Taker. He indicated to me that of the Reebok Melee Legend bats he dealt with, about 7% have came back broken.

I don't know about you guys, but I think that 1%-2% is bat breakage is acceptable.

Seven percent breakage is just too much for a so called durable bat.



Feb. 1, 2011
wagon487
Men's 50
516 posts
FOR THE LAST TIME, Go with COMBAT!!!!!
Feb. 1, 2011
Player
27 posts
Why complain about the breakage! I'd just like to receive mine! I ordered (and paid for) a 28 oz EL on NOVEMBER 08, 2010! I still haven't received it! Evidently, it's stuck in the snow in North Carolina!
Feb. 1, 2011
cliff21
Men's 60
6 posts
On Nov. 18, 2010 I hand-delivered 4 melee legend orders to the Las Vegas Reebok rep. A month ago 2 of them were delivered, the other 2 guys are still waiting for theirs (of course their credit cards were charged a long time ago). I am pissed because these guys (who play in our community league)bought in large part because of my recommendation after swinging demos. Why should it take so long, and how the hell can it be that with all these unfilled orders from November one could order one Jan. 19 (see armiho thread above)from a Reebok rep and receive it Jan. 24?
Can anyone connected with Reebok explain, or, does anyone care?
Feb. 2, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts

I ordered the Reebok Melee Legend before Christmas and still can't even get a UPS Tracking Number.

A QUESTION FOR REEBOK REPS/ORDER TAKERS

If it takes months to get delivery of the Reebok Melee Legend bat that are prepaid orders.....

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR THE BROKEN BATS TO BE REPLACED?

EASTER?

4TH OF JULY?




Feb. 2, 2011
armiho211
Men's 70
406 posts
since my " handle" has been mentioned a couple of times about how i recd my reebok melee balanced so fast. just like a lot of you , i ordered one on nov 7th . i have not recd it yet as of 2/2. since i wanted to take one to the TOC TOURNAMENT. i found one on EBAY from an authorized reebok dealer that had 7 in stock at the time.
Feb. 2, 2011
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
I think a better question would be, who hasn't had a problem with the Melee bat !
Feb. 2, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3935 posts
i haven't,oh i didn't order one,guess maybe that's why.


sticking with my combats till something better comes out,if it ever does.
Feb. 2, 2011
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
mad dog, which one grey or yellow. What asa bat do you use in league ?
Feb. 2, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
armiho211

I'm sorry your getting the "shaft" from Reebok on 2 different issues. One being the no delivery of your order and the second is the broken bat.

I can only hope that readers of this thread take notice....

BEFORE THEY GET SUCKED INTO THIS MESS!

Feb. 2, 2011
mad dog
Men's 60
3935 posts
either combat,i have both for senior ball(total of 6, 2 yellow and 4 gray,so i have a little stash,LOL).
depends on what park,one allows any ASA/USSSA stamped bat, but ultra's(which sometimes get thru b/c of the stupidity of the umps) for this park i bring out a lady virus or my syn-2 and the other is mostly just regular ASA this one i use a combat anti-virus,afflicted and a couple of easton fastpitch bats (scn1b,scx24b).
Feb. 2, 2011
sanlot17
13 posts
I bought one last month..found out they where blowing up..soooo sold it fast! Got a nice (asa) U2 and a nice grey Combat senior...going to get the new MM Combat when it comes out...Mikes the man!
Feb. 2, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
softballnuts: your a piece of work. You do your thread bashing and don't even put your identification on the board. You probably work for Miken or Combat have an agenda. Negativity breeds negativity!
Feb. 2, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
surf88

send me an email.Can't and won't discuss it in this forum. ed@ewandrews.com
Feb. 6, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
ANOTHER WEEK GOES BY

AND

NOT EVEN A UPS TRACKING NUMBER.

I'M JUST LOVING MY REEBOK IN MY DREAMS!

LAST NIGHT I HIT 5 HOME RUNS WITH IT!

AIN'T IT GREAT?
Feb. 6, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
ANOTHER WEEK GOES BY

AND

NOT EVEN A UPS TRACKING NUMBER.

I'M JUST LOVING MY REEBOK IN MY DREAMS!

LAST NIGHT I HIT 5 HOME RUNS WITH IT!

AIN'T IT GREAT?
Feb. 7, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
softballnuts shut the #@!$ up. Call your rep. Don't cry here.
Feb. 7, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
surf88


Negativity breeds negativity!

send me an email.Can't and won't discuss it in this forum. ed@ewandrews.com

Feb. 7, 2011
tg69
304 posts
cant say about the reebok senior bats but I can tell you I bought 2 of the NSA/USSSA bats and they both busted the first time we hit them.We were indoors at about 70degres so take it however you want.
Feb. 7, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
surf88


Negativity breeds negativity!

send me an email.Can't and won't discuss it in this forum. ed@ewandrews.com

Feb. 7, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
tg69

Just hope the "THREAD NAZI" don't go after you for your post!
Feb. 7, 2011
garyheifner
349 posts
If you are not concerned about great bat head speed and HRs, you place hit good line drives, I strongly suggest you try the Black U2 in a 29 or 30 oz.

My team has had great success with the heavier weighted bats (durability). I have one with 1000s of hits on it (used now only in pre-lim games) and a second I with much less hits I use in Championship games. I am 66 weigh 200 and am 5-10. I swing (29oz) very hard and can still hit it out at times. I think since the U2 came out I have only broken 2. Those after countless hits. I gave a 3rd with many hits on it to a friend and it lasted a year and a half in 14 and 16 inch leagues. Just a thought.
Feb. 7, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
garyheifner


Thanks for the info. However, last year I made the BIG MISTAKE of ordering the Reebok and still haven't got delivery. I didn't realize I was buying into useless words and promises. I wish I could cancel the order, get my money back and be done with it!



Feb. 8, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
I don't think you ordered a Melee. If you had, your rep would have taken care of you. My guys call me and I make sure they get their bat. I really do think you have a smear agenda. If perhaps you really are genuine, then call me and I'll make sure you get your bat. (970) 729-3145.
Feb. 8, 2011
softballer
Men's 55
560 posts
don't have mine yet either and no info on it either! should i cancel it and order a combat!
Feb. 8, 2011
JamesLG
296 posts

My buddy who is one of the big guys who routinely hits the ball over 400' hit his balanced Melee today and said it was extremely hot out of the wrapper. After about 40 cuts it had spider cracks but that was it.

Thanks:

James
Feb. 8, 2011
Rino
16 posts
My team used a borrowed 26 oz. balanced with 600 hits on it in a game last week and it was on fire. Bat still looked new, no noticeable webbing. Must of been from one of the good batches. I have a $99 U-trip Melee on the way. If it's 75% of the Legend, I'll be happy.
Feb. 9, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts

Well Guys, I have bought 3 new Reeboks bats, Senior Melee 27 EL (cracked with 80 swings) Senior Melee 28 balanced (30 swings and I'm scared to swing it hard) and my BP bat- the 28 balanced Vector(with the holes) USSSA bat ($99.99), which now has over 100 swings and has great pop for a USSSA bat, and of course, the harder the ball the further the distant. Th I have high hopes that Reebok replaces the Cracked End Loads because of the high number of issue that they are having with their product. I'm sold on the distance that I was able to get from Melee but I'm still out to lunch on the durability issue. I sure hope that End Loads came from a bad batch, and that we are still able to get a durable End Load.




Feb. 9, 2011
Hawkeye49
Men's 60
14 posts
Only after the first swing. First swing was good contact with Melee 27 EL. On the screws so to speak, but something felt funny, and then I noticed the knob had broken off in my hand. That was Jan 8th. It was sent back, but have not received replacement yet.
Feb. 9, 2011
Capt Kirk
400 posts
I have never owned a Reebok Melee Legend or the Veterans Bat, one of my teammates bought a Veterans Bat when where in Phoenix in Oct. 2010, it cracked in just two (2) months, he is still waiting on his replacement bat. My red Ultra 11 max-load 27oz bat had over a 1,000 swings before it cracked. I have a silver ultra ii 29 oz balanced legacy that still is going strong with over 1,000 swings on it. What is a bat acceptable level for performance and durability for senior softball plsyers?
Feb. 9, 2011
canIjack
Men's 60
321 posts
Great Question!
What is the range of durability (Swings) for Senior Bats that are rated higher than 1.20?

How many swings should we be getting from our bats before the crack?
100?
200?
300?
400?
500?
600?
700?
800?
What is Acceptable?
I would love to get 500 plus swings on any Senior bat.
Feb. 9, 2011
RoyHobbs
14 posts
I have been hitting with a friend who bought a 26 ounce endload Reebok Melee. Some of the balls that we have used were Rocks, which are about as hard as a rock. We estimated that he has put approximately 400-450 swings on his bat with no issues whatsoever. Many of his swings resulted in 330-350 foot distances. I am hoping that I do not receive a lemon when I finally get my bat delivered, which I paid for in early November of 2010. I will keep my fingers crossed. Also, I bought a Miken endload Maxload 28 ounces last year that lasted only 6 FHC games! I do not use my senior bats when it is cold and I did not use the bat in batting practice either except for about 25 swings initially. Also, I loved the Senior Gear Combats; however, mine had had end cap issues. My hope is that the Reebok will last at least 400-500 swings before breaking, especially since durability was a major selling point. I am sure that I will be afriad to swing my new Reebok once and if I ever receive my bat.
Feb. 9, 2011
Marv19
Men's 60
429 posts
Hey Roy. I really enjoyed you in that movie where you played Robert Redford :O)

I think you guys miss the basic point. That is bat speed. Having someone say he got 500 to 1000 hits is totally misleading. Bat speed will determine the life of a senior bat in most cases. After that it will be how well the bat is constructed. Inferior and inconsistent Chinese manufacturing processes have been the culprit in the recent flurry of bad carbon fiber bats. Even bat companies that have reps living there and being at the factories daily hasn't helped. I guess now that they aren't poisoning our children, dogs and drywall they are picking on senior bats :O)
Feb. 10, 2011
batman27
Men's 65
24 posts
I ordered the Melee before christmas also and still dont have a bat or tracking number. puzzling to see some have recieved them promptly and some still wait, Im thru Hollis
Feb. 10, 2011
trip25
8 posts
batman27. i ordered my bat the first week of jan. it came feb 4, i live in canton ohio, my bat came from florida. i got a 29 oz end load,the bat is verry nice. i will hit my miken ultra II.I will bring this bat out the end of may to break it in.hope you get your bat soon.
Feb. 11, 2011
Pull My Finger
69 posts
trip25

Who or Where did you order from?
How much did you pay for the bat?

Feb. 11, 2011
Pull My Finger
69 posts
trip25

Who or Where did you order from?
How much did you pay for the bat?

Feb. 13, 2011
Player
27 posts
I was just "browsing" and saw a Reebok Melee Legend, 30oz, EL, ready for shipment, on ebay. The problem? It has a BLUE barrel (it shows it on the bat) instead of the RED or YELLOW. Since I've never seen one - or even heard of one - is this another version?
Feb. 17, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
Player: that was not a Melee Senior bat. The senior Melee is grey w/red trim for balanced and grey with yellow trim for end load. Can share more if desired. ed@ewandrews.com
Feb. 18, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
Reebok International has had my broken Melee end-load since 1/6/11 and have not heard anything yet:(
Feb. 18, 2011
Pull My Finger
69 posts
The Blue Reebok Melee Legend on ebay is being advertised as a senior, 1.21, SSUSA approved bat. And only the 34X30 model is available at this time.

Sold by BATWIZARDS2011

Check it out!
Feb. 18, 2011
Player
27 posts
Ed, I'm happy once again. I finally received my long awaited yellow, Melee EL, thanks to Bobby Davis. And, it's all I expected it to be. 'Course, I only have about 30 swings on it so far, but "it be doin' good."
Feb. 18, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
John27: I learned yesterday afternoon that Reebok R&D sent out replacement bats this week to players. Those of you who are waiting to hear what's up, could get yours anytime now. Some of the returned bats were used a ton I was told. To all who have been patient and positive, THANKS!!! Going to be warm around the country soon. Ed Andrews
http://www.reebokmeleelegend.com
Feb. 18, 2011
J R
179 posts
My only trouble is i cannot seem to get my bat was ordered 1-05-11.reponse to inquiry is they are in U S .Then they are in Florida. I worked for a company and we could get anything anywhere over night.I am in Houston. I know alot of guys here waiting for them
Feb. 18, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
Thanks, surf88! I'm actually over it now, don't really care if Reebok makes it right or not. I know mine was hit less than 60 swings. It is a shame the dishonest always makes it hard for the honest people. :(
Feb. 18, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
It is not a matter of dishonesty. It is more that no one had their crystal ball and truly realized how big this would become and they were not prepared. The past few months have been catch up and with each week, they are gaining ground. It has been unfortunate for some but it getting better and will continue to do so. Yours is most certainly on the way.
Ed http://www.reebokmeleelegend.com
Feb. 21, 2011
RoyHobbs
14 posts
I finally hit with my 28 ounce end loaded Reebook this past Saturday and Sunday. It took about 50 swings to get used to the end load feel of this bat. I was swinging a 28.5 ounce Jeff Hall end load that actually felt lighter than the 28 ounce end load Reebok. I was late in swinging the Reebok initally since it was swinging quite a bit heavier than I expected. The end load must be heavier than my Jeff Hall. However, when I finally started swinging more towards left center/center, I started hitting bombs. Logically, I suppose the trampoline effect increased once I started swinging more towards left center/center. It made a big difference with my particular swing. I probably swung the bat approximately 100 times total this past weekend. It is definitely broken in now and is staying in my bat bag until tournaments. I do not see any signs of breaking whatsoever. So far so good and then some.
Feb. 22, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
Today I got delivery of my before Christmas 2010 Reebok Melee Legend bat order.

The bat was promised to be delivered before the end of January 2011.

The delivery is about 3 weeks late.

So I believe it would be fair and reasonable to give Reebok Customer Service a "D" grade.

Since I only got the bat today, I can't give any grade about the bat's durability question at this time.

Stay tuned....





Feb. 23, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
Softballnuts: We give you an "A" for negativity on this thread. Hope you like your bat.
Feb. 23, 2011
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Yes he might be saying negative things, but is anything he has said not true?
Feb. 23, 2011
Shut Up & Pitch
54 posts
I have been reading this thread and I have a question.

Did surf88 happen to notice the title of this thread?

Maybe this will help him.

Discussion: Has Anyone Else Had Problems With The Reebok ME'LEE Legend Senior Softball Bat Because Mine Cracked After 45 Hits Any Durability Problems?

Sounds like NEGATIVITY to me!
Feb. 23, 2011
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
Shut Up & Pitch,
I have to agree with you ! I am a small Texas Rep for Tanel360.If there is a problem with "anything" I sell you and you get in touch with me and tell me the problem, I replace it....PERIOD, no questions asked.
That's why I tell everyone, the reason I wear Tanel and Play for Tanel is "quality, but the best customer service I have ever dealt with. And being a remodeling contractor, I have dealt with all kinds off customer service. And Tanel has the best there is !!!
Feb. 23, 2011
#6
Men's 60
1183 posts
Stand behind what you sell...or don't sell it. Pretty simple really !
Feb. 23, 2011
Shut Up & Pitch
54 posts
#6

Yep!
He seems to think that anybody that tells the truth is being NEGATIVE! I guess he can't handle the truth. Truth is truth weather it is negative or not. It looks like he just wants it covered up or simply not discussed and hope these problems go away. Softballnuts is telling his story about his Reebok experience and it bugs surf a great deal. It don't take much detective work to read it in his posts. From what I have read of softballnuts posts, I see no reason why he would lie. And I see nothing of him promoting any other bat or company.
Feb. 23, 2011
John27
Men's 50
32 posts
Received my replacement bat today. Thank you :)
Feb. 23, 2011
Shut Up & Pitch
54 posts
#6

Yep!
He seems to think that anybody that tells the truth is being NEGATIVE! I guess he can't handle the truth. Truth is truth weather it is negative or not. It looks like he just wants it covered up or simply not discussed and hope these problems go away. Softballnuts is telling his story about his Reebok experience and it bugs surf a great deal. It don't take much detective work to read it in his posts. From what I have read of softballnuts posts, I see no reason why he would lie. And I see nothing of him promoting any other bat or company.
Feb. 23, 2011
Pull My Finger
69 posts
John27

If you just received your replacement, how long did your first bat last?

Feb. 23, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
Rational responses to some individuals is not always helpful. I believe the Melee is a good bat. The manufacturing and shipping in the beginning, did not meet demand and did not fulfill what was promised. There were and there are good people who have been trying hard to help players and to provide good customer care. I am one of those Reps. I will continue to help, to serve and to represent this product to the best of my ability. To those who are upset and unhappy, I hope in the long run, the Melee will bring you the enjoyment you ultimately hoped for. On behalf of those of us who have worked hard to try to make this a little bit better for you, thanks for the opportunity to share this response. All your views are appreciated and understood. I respect your right to post. Hope to see you on the fields somewhere in the coming year and to all thanks for your patience and your understanding.
Feb. 23, 2011
neck10
488 posts
just buy a miken ultra with the asa stamps they are all over the net a used one will last 3 times as long as these new bats
Feb. 23, 2011
hoovedog
Men's 50
69 posts
Yep!! 400.00$ for a Old U-2. The Reebok Melee balanced is twice as hot! Mine has 300 swings and going strong,, Who knows how long they'll last, they have never been given a full season!
Feb. 24, 2011
Lefty
Men's 65
463 posts
Are you saying instead of hitting it out 320ft your hitting it 640ft. Shouldn't take to long before they will band the senior reebok. I haven't hit with mine yet. I hope your wrong about twice as hot. I just want it to last longer.
Feb. 24, 2011
J R
179 posts
I got and email from Reebok in Florida saying no bat til. 3-15-11. I cancelled the order and called Anaconda they have them in stock and will ship today.
Feb. 24, 2011
neck10
488 posts
there is no bat twice as hot as ultra 2 they were using them (reebok melee)at the TOC one of the pitchers from hollis was swinging one it didnt look like to me it was any hotter than the new ultra 2's & no the U2 ASA stamp model will cost you anywhere fron $125.00 to $225.00 allover ebay got 11 or 12 of them myself!!!!!!!!!!
Feb. 24, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
The Melee has good pop. It is not double what U-II has but it is absolutely equivalent and I believe more durable at least for now. I'm sure Miken, Combat and everybody else will begin (or have already begun) to modify manufacturing to compete at a higher level. It is only logical to think that will happen. In the meantime contact your person or shop of choice and try a Melee to see for yourself. Everybody has an opinion as to what they like.
March 3, 2011
softballnuts
78 posts
Today it was warm enough (70 degrees) to take about 50-60 hits on my new Reebok Melee Legend bat.

The bat feels good to swing.

Most of the balls were 44/375 "Rocks".

I was able to hit most balls well. The balls seemed to shoot off the bat. I hit 6 of those balls about 340-380 feet.

I noticed the bat showing the "webbing".

As for bat performance an "A" grade.

Something I noticed was that the bat seemed to "vibrate" in my hands.
Weather this is good or bad, I don't know at this time.

I have yet to investigate or report on the "durability" issue.

STAY TUNED....



March 3, 2011
surf88
Men's 60
862 posts
softballnuts: Thanks, I got the surface "webbing" on mine early as well. It is clearcoating and not structural. Took me a little time to get used to the swing after swinging a U-II for years.
March 15, 2011
gott2play
Men's 55
138 posts
26oz Balanced. Only taken one swing. If interested, contact me 310-489-4957 or anthony.baltazar@boeing.com. Will be in Mesquite with 50 Major team
March 15, 2011
Steinbrenner
Men's 55
27 posts
I just received a 26oz balanced & broke it in 3 places, with the wrapper still on it in less than 15 swings. Bat was warmed up in a Pyroflite Bat warmer. The balls were stored indoors & warm. It was 65+ degrees out. To say I was disapointed is an understatement. If anyone cares to contact me, I can be reached at mark00asa@aol.com
March 15, 2011
gott2play
Men's 55
138 posts
Mark,

Not sure why I purchased the Melee as I was always a Miken U2 guy. After breaking yet another U2, I was done bought the MM Combat (love it), and just ordered a Launch 510 from "batsunlimited.com". They had Worth make 500 for them. You may want to try one out. Their toll free is 800-929-0959

Tony Baltazar
#22 Barcelona Bandits - 50 major
#35 So Cal 55's - 55 Major
March 15, 2011
Steinbrenner
Men's 55
27 posts
WOW...What a surprise!!
Within an hour, I got a response from surf88, (Ed Andrews). He let me know that Reebok, is taking care of the bats that break prematurely, on a case by case scenario. I shipped off my broken 26oz balanced Melee back to the Bat Return Department of Reebok International. Ed is going to hand deliver a new Melee to me in Mesquite, in a week and a half at the SSUSA Spring Nationals!! Having played ball for the last 30 years, I have never received this kind of Customer Care from any of the other bat manufacturers. I have broken 1 other brand new bat (not going to mention who, (MIKEN)), within 25 swings & was told that I was out of luck. Surf88 has gone out of his way to make it right & I didn't even buy it through him. My faith in mankind has been reaffirmed.

Thank You Very Much Ed - surf 88

Mark McDaniel
#44 Timberworks Const - 55 major
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