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March 7, 2013
JamesLG
324 posts
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Hi Alan:

did you get a chance to test this bat? A few guys I know have the 2 piece Miken's and they are very pleased with the performance and durabuility.

Thanks:

James

March 8, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4489 posts
Tri18,
Am curious, did the bat break or what? your words sounds as if it did:
"It responds well after 50 or so hits and continues to get better up until the 200 or so range where it levels off before it's life ends."
'Life ends', to me sure means it cracked or broke.
Please explain.
Even with the durability is better etc etc what life ended?
March 8, 2013
bkb555
152 posts
thats what i read into it too taits
March 8, 2013
JamesLG
324 posts


I know guys who have been hitting these bats in cooler weather and I have not heard of one breaking.
March 8, 2013
Bomber23
51 posts
Is the new 2-piece U2 truly replacing the Red Maxload U2 or is this just a sales ploy?
March 9, 2013
Ugly Stick
Men's 60
20 posts
See now this is where I get confused. All these percentages and numbers. Do I really need all of this. I just want to buy a bat. You say you sell all of the senior bats. Do you sell Demarini or Worth. I heard both of their senior bats were hot as heck. I was thinking about buying a Demarini. The One it is called. Do you get them from the facotry, or do you buy them second and third hand... Thanks in advance. I just want the best bat for my money.. I know most seniors have a lot of money to spend on bats, I ufortunately don't.

Ugly Stick
March 9, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
167 posts
Alan, Is the new supermax a 1oz. end load.
March 12, 2013
BB#16
5 posts
225-350 swings, not durable enough for my wallet. IJS
March 12, 2013
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
You say another fine bat by Miken, after saying it will average out in 225-350 swing range, I can see how some get confused by your endless posting.
March 13, 2013
BB#16
5 posts
Tri18,
Doesn't take a whole lot to be an improvement over the red Ultra II. 225-350 swings should not be acceptable to anyone. Every senior bat should have quality assurance test to the 800-1000 swing range.
March 13, 2013
big cat7
Men's 50
99 posts
I talked to alan today from Team 1 sports and he was very helpful in answering some questions i had about this bat.And the man definately knows what hes talking about as far as hitting and bats go.I plan on doing business with him from now on. Thanks alan
March 13, 2013
Allan55
91 posts
BB#16,

I agree with you. Miken comes out with a new bat, and it gets 225-350 swings. I guess Miken is really not too serious about regaining the market. They are just looking for more suckers. One day they will open their eyes and wonder why they are not selling many bats. When TPS produces a bat, Mikens may be on their way out. The new TPS kid bat (Z3000) is incredibly durable. The break-in period lasts longer than a Miken. If they put together a senior bat...the bat companies will be forced to make a more durable bat. Right now, they are too greedy.
March 14, 2013
Tim Millette
615 posts
TPS..now called Louisville Slugger already has a senior bat that has passed the BFF test.

It outperformed all the other senior bats we had during testing in exit ball speed...plus....the one I used had 780 swings on it when I gave it back for evaluation...

Of those swings...over 600 (530 of them by me) were done using the stadium high core/compression balls in 50 degree weather...these balls were old bp balls....the bat was producing exit ball speeds that averaged 103 mph with the top speed of 110mph

Last weekend we again went out to test the senior Louisville...on a baseball field 335 down the line...365 left center...395 straight away... many balls were leaving the park....around ten guys shared swinging four bats for six hours....four of the players were or currently are USSSA major/elite list players....70 degrees....all stadium balls.....maybe 3,000 swings.....no bats broke.....
March 14, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
167 posts
TPS doesn't have the best reputation when it comes to durability. High performing bats that don't last very long. SB34 Genesis, Black Nexus,Z2000, all great bats, but all are known for poor durability. Supposedly that problem has been taken care of with the Z3000 line . Allan55, you say the 3000 has better (incredible)durability, but as far as I know this bat is a preorder and is not sheduled for release until April? Tim, Stadium balls are.47cor/450comp. It's amazing that a senior bat could withstand that kind of punishment. I am a soon to be 60 year old and I would never use a senior bat in temps below 60. I have broken USSSA and ASA bats with 44/375 balls in 50 degree weather, and I'm a linedrive, once in awhile HR hitter.
March 14, 2013
Tim Millette
615 posts
Ju, my points/numbers were nothing more then sharing information. And your right....under the conditions we were swinging in....no senior bat should have lasted.

I know I'd love a bat that compares to the senior bats and doesn't break in less then a thousand swings....even in cold weather with rock hard balls.

I think one of the problems with seniors and composite is the manufacturers have not been able to give the powerful hitters something better then the kids bat but more durable then the combats and Mikens I have used that don't last 100 swings even if it's 80 degrees.

If......the H&B senior bats that make it to market are comparable to the ones I have been testing......things will be changing.

I had the first genesis on the west coast.....it lasted around 50 swings.....or.....put another way.....maybe 25 less then a new ultra. My last Combat/yellow didn't make it to 85 cuts....my last ultra lasted about the same...I had a friend buy a red ultra at worlds three years ago....two of us shared it/it lasted four games/but it did break during a night game in phx.

Ju, I like you have had kids composites last forever....I have broke a few genesis bats, my original synergy and.....that's it. I sold my oh freak after five years....still have three synergy +s and a blue Worth.....all have thousands of swings on them.


March 14, 2013
Allan55
91 posts
ju25,

You are correct regarding the Z3000. They are due to come out soon. We were testing them recently.
March 15, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
167 posts
Just read that the release date of the Z3000 has been pushed back to June.
April 3, 2013
SD
Men's 50
5 posts
Can I ask a dumb question about the Miken 2 piece End Load (supermax)? I have a Miken Ultra II 28 Maxload, does this 2-piece bat have the same kind of weighting? Just trying to figure out what to get. Been told the 2-piece Balanced feels slightly end loaded also. Anybody have any suggestions ... besides not asking stupid questions, lol. Thanks
April 4, 2013
SD
Men's 50
5 posts
Alan, thank you for taking the time to explain, i sincerely appreciate it.. so, if i if think my 28 ultra II maxload is a little too heavy, a 28 2-piece balanced may be perfict. Or even a 2-piece 27 maxload. Jeez, i sound like i am talking to myself here, but Alan, does what i said make sense. Thanks, Steve D.

Ps- dennis turner of louisville told mr the tps z senior bst will be ready to be released in feb 2014. They want to make sure its prrfect. Met DT through hank basset and i see him every year at the asa national convention. Great guy. Alan, I wish you the best of luck, SD
April 4, 2013
SD
Men's 50
5 posts
Can I ask a dumb question about the Miken 2 piece End Load (supermax)? I have a Miken Ultra II 28 Maxload, does this 2-piece bat have the same kind of weighting? Just trying to figure out what to get. Been told the 2-piece Balanced feels slightly end loaded also. Anybody have any suggestions ... besides not asking stupid questions, lol. Thanks
April 4, 2013
SD
Men's 50
5 posts
Ignore that last question, I already asked it and Alan has answered it, why it was posted again, I have no idea, how do you delete a post so one does not look like a jacka$$. Thanks
April 4, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
456 posts
You can't. Get out of the thread immediately after you post and double posting shouldn't be an issue.
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