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Jan. 23, 2020
nporee
6 posts
impact player
As I was trying to add to my roster last year, I was told by the main office I could not add a certain player, cause he is an "IMPACT" player. But yet he was allowed to play on another team against us? Can someone shed a light here?
Jan. 23, 2020
TimMcElroy
691 posts
I don't know which team or player you are referring to but I will take a stab at it.

Charlie's Cars can have a max of 3 players from a higher classification level on their roster. The entire team goes up if Charlie's Cars adds a 4th out of rating player. Maybe the Charlie's team already has 3 and the Mike's Bikes team that eventually added the player in question had less than 3.
Jan. 24, 2020
nporee
6 posts
Thanks, Tim, good guess. But we are 55 AAA team and we do not have Major rated players on our team only AAA-rated players. The player who was going to come over is rated, Major. I followed all the rules and procedures to have him join us, and was initially told he could be a part of our team. 10 days later I was informed that he is an "impact" player and could not be on our roster. But he could play for another team in our same division and against us. My question(s) is simple, how is it possible that he cant play for me, but can for someone else in our same division? and if SSUSA has rules and procedures and they are followed, why is this issue coming up? I am looking for clarity as we are again attempting to have him join us again this year.. and I would like to know which direction or whom should I really speak with?
Jan. 24, 2020
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1331 posts
nporee, Tim did make a good guess. He is a very smart man. Since you are the coach, I would call the office and talk with a ratings specialist. On the Message Board, non-coaches often vent with no knowledge of what goes into coaching. Of course the office is not going to put details on here for the same reason. Being a coach is a tougher job than most people can ever imagine.
Jan. 24, 2020
mck71
217 posts
nporee - you would need to speak specifically with George or Tiffany in the home office to get your answer, PERIOD (sorry, caps are meant for emphatic answer, not shouting). Anything else is simply speculation as Nancy stated.

And I will add that I have been managing our team roster for YEARS and haven never heard the term "IMPACT" in reference to a player yet, assume that means they are M+?
Jan. 24, 2020
nporee
6 posts
Nancy, mck71, thank you both.. and yes Coaching and Managing is tough and demanding. But its why we love the game or have rocks in our heads.. anyway I did speak with the home office and this is why I posted this to see if anyone has experienced not being able to have a player because of the IMPACT rule or status. Seems like I am not alone in not knowing what exactly that means. But I will reach out to them again. I did discuss this with a director in Las Vegas in September, and too also did not understand the IMPACT player status. He made a few suggestions, and I can follow up on them. thank you both and Tim.
Jan. 24, 2020
TimMcElroy
691 posts
As Nancy and mck71 suggested, the roster specialists at the home office are the best source of info because they have all of the facts in front of them (team history, player history, etc).

I just had a thought.... By any chance, were you trying to add a player for SSUSAs upcoming TOC (February 7-9)? If so, there are special roster rules for that tournament to promote a level playing field.
Jan. 27, 2020
grayhitter59
Men's 55
258 posts
nporee, Impact player is not a SSUSA term, they rate players by triple A, Major or Major+, so maybe you are referring to another associations.

As stated you can only add certain amount of higher rated players until you get bump up to next level.

As a triple A team you can not add a Major plus player in the same age bracket.
Jan. 27, 2020
nporee
6 posts
Tim, thank you again, but no this was not for the upcoming TOC. this was actually for the Worlds in Las Vegas last Sept. I did follow all the procedures and rules. but was denied. So I came here for some guidance in case I missed a step, and sounds like I did not. Grayhitter, thank you for your information, but the term "IMPACT PLAYER" was the term SSUSA used not me. and I do not belong or am I involved in any other association other that I run Local leagues, and I am aware and understand about whom I can or cannot add to my roster.. this gentleman is a Major, and we are AAA and he ( as far as I know) can be added to my roster. But I will go to the SSUSA home office again and speak with George and see what if I did anything wrong or attempt to set my roster. Thanks to you all..
Jan. 27, 2020
chico senior
Men's 60
125 posts
Grayhitter - Actually, years ago SSUSA did use the term “Impact Player”. If I am not mistaken, it referred to those players that were Hall of Famers and there were restrictions put on them as to what level they could or could not play.
Jan. 27, 2020
DoubleL10
Men's 70
899 posts
‘‘Impact player” is a SPA category. Players classified as such can only play at the Major Plus and Major levels. Unless the rules have been changed, They cannot play at a lower level in ANY age group.
Jan. 27, 2020
chico senior
Men's 60
125 posts
The only organization that I have ever played in is SSUSA. Many years ago we were a AAA team and we tried to add a player. SSUSA said we could not do so as the player was classified as an Impact Player and could only play Major or Major +. They did not say that a Major + player could only play Major + or Major, they said he could not play with us because he was an Impact Player. And because of that he could not play with us. I understand what the rules are for Major + players but the term they used many years ago was Impact Player.
Jan. 27, 2020
nporee
6 posts
Double and Chico, that totally makes sense.. but the gentlemen I am referring to, is a major player, not a major+ and yet he was allowed to play on another AAA team against my team. so that's where my confusion is at. Why was he not an "impact" player for them? but was for us. thanks for the feedback.. Helps to know I am not losing it at this age already
Jan. 27, 2020
grayhitter59
Men's 55
258 posts
Chico, I guess I might have been mistaken, I only heard that term in SPA.
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