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| July 27, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | What Define a Major Plus Player, a Major Player and a AAA player and Who rates Them What is the difference between the Players when you are rating them? 1. Power - How far can you hit a ball 2. Batting Avg. - 800, 750,700, 650 ...ect 3. Fielding ability 4.??????? What I've always wonder how I became a major plus player. I think it was, because I played for a team that was Major Plus? I had never played on or for an A or B Softball Tourney team like a lot of you guys, until I started playing Senior Softball. So how did I get stuck in M plus rating in senior softball? also as I understand it, I won't ever be able to play AAA or AA, even though I'm 60 years old. Just wondering, I see guys who are good but their playing on a lower Div. Team. and wondering as to why havn't they moved up. |
| July 27, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | all of the above kennard(1-3).most of the time it is by playing on a M/M+ teams is what gets you rated,kind of like the kids now a days.play a div and win something and your stuck there unless you want to move up.only time you can go down is if you can prove you were just a hanger on-er for the higher rated team you played with.i like the idea of,if your team wins a major the whole must stay that div for at least one year,than can go down if ya want.also they should allow lower teams to pick up a limited amount of higher rated guys and not affect their rating.but hey what do i know,just throwing out what the kids assoc's do. |
| July 27, 2011 Pricer Men's 50 621 posts | It was more the team you played on. The directors don't have the time or money to watch all individuals to rate them. To rate some individuals and not the all by actually watching each player would be the wrong way to go about it. So rating teams and the players on them is the easiest. |
| July 27, 2011 GSWP001 Men's 60 75 posts | If you jump up in a new age bracket doesn't that allow you to be rerated? IE. .. I turned 65 and am allowed to play AA when I was AAA in the 60's. |
| July 27, 2011 smooth01 Men's 50 128 posts | Someone can correct me, but I thought at one time it was stated that when a player was requesting a move down, a manager of the team he was playing for ,could write a letter stating that the individule was not a Major Plus , Major , or AAA caliber player. If this has changed ,I would like SSUSA staff to clarify. Also clarify when a player can move down or what it takes to move down? (sitting out for a certain period,manager's letter,or change in age divisions?) As plyers get older , they can't stay the same rating,the rating can only come down.I am not trying to burst the bubble of SSUSA which is consistanly trying to move players and teams up ,for the big boy's to play,I am just being realistic. |
| July 28, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | canljack-this is one point I have been making for a while now. Right now the criteria is mainly that you played at that level, no matter how you performed. Any team has to have role players, singles hitters and good defensive players. Not every Major Plus player hits the long ball. So how do you distinguish between a major plus player that never hits a home run, but is a big part of the team for his 'tablesetting' and defense, and the AAA player that does the same for his team?If you start rating players throughout Senior Softball, do you then pick out a AAA player with Major Plus stats and rerate him? What if he hasn't got a Major or Major Plus team within 500 miles? What if a AAA player goes 30-35 with 11 home runs in a world tourney? Do you rerate him? So many different criteria could be used. They do the best they can, for sure. But when you really delve into it and try to do it, it would be a massive database to keep track of all stats from all tourneys. They have a system that is as workable as they can make it with 6 people in the office. If we want better, it will cost $$$$$ to rate everyone. |
| July 28, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | like i said rate the team,let it stand for a year,then be check into.the players from the team can play anyplace else,but limit a lower rated teams ability to pick up higher rated players,that way no one team can stack it.like i said the kids do it this way,and it seems to be working ok........ |
| July 28, 2011 terryspears Men's 55 38 posts | With the ramifications of the rating that you receive (hard to play down) it would seem that a consistent list of attributes for players at each level could be established. Since there is an "official" scorekeeper/scorebook at each game during tournaments, a little computer work would provide stats that could make ratings fair and consistent. |
| July 28, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Terryspears-there are only 6 SSUSA people in the office. They personally travel all over the country running these tournaments for us, coming out of California. A little computer work? Say there are 150 teams in all divisions with 18 guys on each roster. That's 2700 players playing 5 to 9 games each-say 7 average-for a total of 18,900 individual game performances to evaluate, and that is 1 tournament. Granted, not everyone plays every game, but the point is rating players is a massive undertaking. Do you rate just major plus players, or do you include major players, or do you include AAA players-- do you rerate on one good tourney, or two, or three, does the player being rerated (say from AAA to major) even have local access to a major team, and, believe me, if they ever tried to do set up a rating system-there would be a line of people with suggestions of how to rate a player and this and that criteria need to be included, and ................ It's mind-boggling for SSUSA to contemplate. |
| July 28, 2011 tinman Men's 50 75 posts | I played on a Major Team that won a SPA National.I did not play a game all summer due to injury but I was on the roster.The team broke up and Major Plus is my Classification now. |
| July 31, 2011 Islandryder 5 posts | I know a player on a Major team that was moved to Major Plus. He is actually a AAA player. The manager wrote to SSUSA with good stats to prove his case to move the player down. The response: "Sorry, he was on the roster all year." There is no way this player should be classified as Major Plus. So much for letters from the manager. |
| Aug. 1, 2011 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | The brass says if you are NOT a Major-plus player and can prove you are just along for the ride, they will let you move down. Dont' know if that's happening, but it is written somewhere in the rules. |
| Aug. 1, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | Well I wouldn't want to be anything else except a Major Plus player. If I were a AAA or AA or even Major, I would want to be a M+ player. Even as a kid I wanted to play with the big boys. I was just curious? |
| Aug. 1, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | your are right kennard,it should be what we all want,but geography sometimes limits what you can play,there is no 60M+ where i play,we have 1 60M team close to me (and my team is the only 60 AAA within 100 miles of me),it is full with guys who have played with each other for years,getting on with them is a tad hard if ya don't know them.so why not let those guys that are in that situation play with the available teams in their area,your lucky living in socal(or calif for that matter) with the number of teams there.oh well have fun and good luck for the rest of the season.... |
| Aug. 1, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Canljack-same here. We are the only 55AAA team in the state of NM and the closest major or M+ teams are Phoenix. 450 miles. Plus this has become my family. A lot of us have played for 20 years together. If I played for a M+ team, I would have to travel well beyond my budget. |
| Aug. 2, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | MD and Webbie25, You both have given us great answers, as to why we should Join Major and Major Plus into 1 Diviion. As I see it, that would solve the Compettive problem that we face each year. |
| Aug. 2, 2011 DMac Men's 60 207 posts | As one of the Double Edge orphans who has been forced to move up, let me offer a perspective from a first time Major+ player. Offensively, I have not noticed any difference. Good hitters are good hitters regardless of who is in the field. On defense is where I might be overmatched. The game is faster, outfielders need to cover more ground and there are no breaks in the lineup. To those players that know me, I miss the days when I was called 50-50. What I miss the most is playing in tournaments like Reno, Phoenix, and the Western Regionals. Other than Vegas, there are no places to play that will have enough teams to justify the cost. Instead, we play in local tourneys against 50&55 Major teams. By all means, combine the divisions. |
| Aug. 3, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | DMac, I've been playing in So Calif. for 10 years, in every local tournament that I have played in. We always have played different divisions in the round robin. I might see 1 team in our division M+ (A Team from Nor Cal). We always have had Major + playing Major , Major playing AAA , AAA playing AA. Looks like they're combined Locally. The funny thing about it is I've seen AAA beat Major Teams. Really, Why not Combine into Two division? Probably a money thing, like so many other things. |
| Aug. 4, 2011 Duke Men's 65 908 posts | Hey 50-50, Hope you are doing good. I was looking for you at some tournaments, because I have something to give to you. Maybe I will see you in Phoenix or some local tournament. Take care and hope you are having a great time on playing for your new team. I played in Reno this year, although it was windy, raining, and snowing. It was my first big tournament back from my 3 1/2 month tax season, and it showed. I almost got hit by a ball hit right at me, and could not get comfortable to hit consistently, until my bery last game on Monday. Had a fun time and glad it is a few months down the road now. Hope to see you out there, Andy Smith, Double Edge orphan LOL!! |
| Aug. 4, 2011 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Kennard, speaking of playing in so calif are you playing Temecula this weekend? |
| Aug. 4, 2011 DMac Men's 60 207 posts | Andy, I'm doing well; thanks for asking. Not having to run for you has cut down on the wear and tear to my legs:) I've been playing with D&K and having a good time. They are all great guys and have made me feel welcome. The only problem is finding tournaments to play in. I'll be with them on Sunday in Temecula. Give me a shout if you're in the area. |
| Aug. 4, 2011 Duke Men's 65 908 posts | Dennis, I will be in that area August 20-21, if we can get enough players to play that weekend. Since you are playing with D & K, I should see you in Phoenix. I am playing with a 55 Major team this year too. Andy |
| Aug. 4, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | duke,Dmac you both are sandbaggers,you both should be playing M+++ ...DOH,LOL..... how ya going there andy,was it your shoulder that needed fixing,,hope it is getting better.dennis well ok i guess you are ok...LOL..... you able to retire yet,or those little ones still got ya moving...LOL.... |
| Aug. 5, 2011 Duke Men's 65 908 posts | mad dog, I am doing very good. Hope the same for you. I am the oldest player on this 55 Major team, R & R Double Nickels. I am playing with a great group of guys. Like Dennis said above, they have warmly welcomed me onto their team. I am now pitching for them this season. I am hoping to play with a 60 team next season, and play as many 55 tourneys with this 55 team, when the schedules do not conflict. Maybe I will see you out there some time. Have a good rest of the year. Andy Smith |
| Aug. 5, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | E4/E6, No I'm not playing this weekend(D&K 55). I wanted to but my In-laws are reciting their Wedding vows and the wife said that I will be there or I'll be in the Dog House. And my dog isn’t moving over. Yea, I was looking forward to playing in Temecula but I'll be in Hemet 8-21 with Full Circle 60, See yea then John. |
| Aug. 5, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | kennard he would have to be a small one....LOL.....have fun this weekend and enjoy the family...... |
| Aug. 5, 2011 Momoney 2 posts | I've heard some good reasons for rating players.I beleive that everyone really knows their true abilities.I feel that a team that's winning tournaments should be moved to the next higher div.& shouldn't be allowed to move down in divisions just to play in a tourn. I also feel that if a team feels that they can use a lower level player on their team that that player should accept the new classification. As a kid & as of now I prefer to play against the best because I felt that is what would make me a better player. Sure when a team is moved to a higher class, you may not win as many games as you're use to winning, but don't forget that other teams would love to have the chance to win that big game. Don't forget that we all should be very glad to have the chance to play the game we've always loved and especially at our age. It shouldn't all be about winning. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | It shouldn't be, But it is all about WINNING. That is how we are gaged. We're Great when we win the Big one. And just another team when we come in 2nd. And I agree Momoney, If a Team wins a National, They should move up until they can't go any higher. Really, we should not hear of any team repeating as AA, AAA, or Major. If they win, they Move up. No ifs or Buts about it. But when a team is moved up just because a Butt licker calls in and complains about this new team that beat them, Thats Bull----, and this happens all the time. |
| Aug. 8, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | kennard yep,ya win ya move up,take your lickings and be done with it,and i think they should be there for 2 years,now if the players don't want to and feel the need to break up,i would say no more than 2 can go to another team and play the next lower div .they need to spread out amongst other teams,if they don't want to compete at the next higher level as a team.i'm with you a team should never win two national/world tourneys in a row in the same div,unless it is the top div.to me any more than 5-6 left over,you get to play the next div if you win at the one you were at. |
| Aug. 9, 2011 OTE24 Men's 65 123 posts | Guys, Whether a player gets rated down is a figment of someones imagination(Terry's or George). I and one of my players submitted facts that he should not be rated M+. All we received were nasty replies from one of these benchwarmers. They're not overworked,they just don't care. They never let facts get in the way. It's a bush organization. Thank you to all the SoCal(and one Nevada)teams who picked up my guys this year. Andy,glad you're playing; you're one of the best. Dennis ,I'm your witness to that monster HR you hit in Vegas. Lastly, good luck to NCSSA and SoCalSSA. Maybe you two organizations can get together to have a REAL Cal State championship. You can support the players and get them on the field better then SSUSA. Oh my, I think I broke two of the message board rules! John Sadler ex manager Double Edge 60s(Cal) (now living in Mesquite ,Nev) |
| Aug. 9, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | john i believe you,i feel if ya win a major and get moved up,the players should be rated as such for at least 1 year.NOW i do feel if the team breaks up and these guys want to play else where they should be able to,but ya need to limit how many can go to another team,you need to scatter them amongst a few teams.i see the kids doing it,they call it bumps,and limit how many bumps a lower rated team can pick up,i think that should be do able in senior ball. |
| Aug. 9, 2011 Duke Men's 65 908 posts | Hi John, I appreciate a person that says it as it is. Well said and definitely accurate. Hope you are doing better. Say hi to Pam for me. Please give me a call over the weekend. I would like to run something by you regarding next season. Andy Smith, 60 Major Plus/55 Major |
| Aug. 9, 2011 dMON 28 posts | Why should you have to classify players? Players should have the right to play wherever they choose. What should be done is classify teams wherever they choose. To me, a simple solution to all of the ratings hoopla would be to allow teams to play wherever they choose based on the following standards and also narrowing the divisions to 3 and the age brackets by 10-year increments instead of 5: AA (or call it what you want) - 1 HR, then inning ending out. 5-run/inning - 60 minutes + 1 inning AAA - 3 HR, then outs (not inning ending) 5-run (or 7-run)/inning - 65 minutes + 1 inning Major - 7 HR, then single - unlimited runs - unlimited time By increasing the age increments, you should have more teams participating. Play wherever you feel you can play within those guidelines. |
| Aug. 10, 2011 OTE24 Men's 65 123 posts | Bob, Nobody had a problem with the team moving up. However, we had one player out of 15 who asked SSUSA to re-rate him to Major so he could join a AAA team. He had a good argument and the facts to back it up. But, BW #1 told us in no uncertain terms that our people were stuck at M+ for two years,no appeals. No facts,nothing; just no. What a chump! Hope all is going well for you and good luck this season. Andy,will do. Also, the remarks I make do not reflect on the work of others in SSUSA. They have some wonderful people there(Dave ,Fran,tourney directors,umpires,etc.),it's the top two who are the problem. BW1 and BW2. John Sadler |
| Aug. 10, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | got cha john,i think a rating system like the kids would really help us,being able to move to other teams.let the lower teams pick up guys but limit it to a point, and if they go over they get bumped to the next level,just my way of thinking.i had to do the same to drop to AAA from M+ a few years back,it only took me 3 months to do,i got started in jan and was good to go by march,thank goodness.my prol was there were no teams other than the M+ and AAA in my area,thank goodness i was able to convince the powers to be. dmom the age difference can be to much at 10 years a part,it really shows after the 55's. |
| Aug. 11, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | mad dog has a point, when I turned 58 I felt a drop in Strength, muscle coordination, and running speed. I really notice that my legs were weaker. So no on the Ten Year rule. 5 is good, it works so don't try to fix the age grouping. |
| Aug. 12, 2011 Duke Men's 65 908 posts | mad dog/canjack, I played in the 60 division last year, and there was a drop in player skills by guys that I have known for over 11 years. Not all, but enough to take note. The 5 year rule is good. Andy Smith, 60 Major Plus/55 Major |
| Aug. 13, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | hey duke ya called that playing,what i saw in reno.....DOH,LOL..... |
| Aug. 14, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | canjack, typically small brackets at most tournaments is "working"? |
| Aug. 14, 2011 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | Not enough players for 5 year age groups but 10 years is too much difference athletically. 40+ 50-57 58-65 66-73 74-81 82+ You have to have run limits in all divisions. 5 runs an inning equalizes the games, there would probably be even less teams to play at the top without it. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | When did sports become Socialistic???? You equalize the games by working hard to improve, and by playing better. NOT by artificial, cotrived, asinine rules! |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | canljack-I have felt the drop off-suddenly things you never did before happen and you wonder why? I have stepped up my work regimen to try to compensate, but, alas, I fear it is a losing battle in the long run. :-) Jawood-atill not sure I would go over 5 years after 65. Guys in Albuq say the drop off accelerates after 65. But I do like the 7 year increments up to 65. Gary19-at our ages 'improve' is problematic at best-maintain for as long as you can may be more accurate. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Webbie, fair enough. But either way you "equalize" by hard work, effort, and achievement, NOT by hokey rules. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Jawood Men's 50 943 posts | Gary, Not trying to be socialistic. I actually agree with you, it's just most do not want to EARN anything, they would rather get things given to them (equalizers, limits) as opposed just playing the game. Unfortunately, there are not many of us left that think that way. Webbie, As you know, I'm not 65 yet so probably should not comment about the higher age groups. Just trying to come up with ways to get more teams in these tournaments. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | Well Gary19, some of those hokey rules I can live with. Playing with or for a average teams, those rules do help keep the game close and more interesting than just having blow outs all the time. And I don't care who you are, No one wants to be the losers in a lopsided game. The Rules, does make the game of Senior Softball MORE Competitive. And we love a 26 to 25 or 19-22 score in a game. By the way, at what age does Major plus and Major cease to exist? |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Jawood-no offense taken, I'm sure. Just pointing out that I really doubt we improve much as we get older. I've fought injuries-odd ones-for a year and finally felt good in Prescott and had a decent tourney there offensively and defensively. But it gets tougher as you get older, for sure. Canljack- M and M+ never cease to exist is some people's minds!! :-) |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | Does anyone actually feel good about being able to stay close, and perhaps even winning, when a prime reason for that is some contrived rule? Is that fulfilling to anyone? Certainly sounds and smells like Socialism. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Gary. When the system, any system is fair and strong with standards, regulation and enforcement than competition is healthy and thrives. When a system is corrupt and unfair than the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Call it what you want but that's the stuff revolutions are made of like the American Revolution which is still active and evolving. It's not a question of socialism which just means the people come first it's a question of fairness because without essential fairness no system is worth it or will prevail. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 E4/E6 Men's 70 873 posts | Its called Capitalism, at its finest I might add. When this BUSINESS belongs to one of us we will be able to make the changes we see fit, until then it belongs to the current owners who will make small changes to keep the masses appeased at best. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Gary19 Men's 50 2609 posts | So sad that this is no longer a "game". And even sadder that apparently the consumers of this business want crap like run limits to help them stay competitive when they either no longer can or no longer desire to work hard enough to remain competitive. Maybe next we can complete the regression back to t-ball and just give participation ribbons and our wives can bring the post-game juice boxes. |
| Aug. 15, 2011 stick8 1992 posts | "When a system is corrupt and unfair than the rich get richer and the poor get poorer." I'm not 100% certain the rich get richer necessarily because of corruption. There are many who are honest, play by the rules, are good at what they do and constantly strive to improve themselves by learning and taking advantage of resources available to them. No question there are the Madoff types out there. We can only hope that agencies like the BBB or the SEC keeps tabs on these people. Do you feel the majority of those in the business world who have achieved wealthy status did so by being greedy or corrupt? |
| Aug. 15, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | There are tons of people who are honest and play by the rules. All the people who struggle in any society are fundamentally good and worthwhile as in we are all created equal and all children of God. We all do the best with cards we are dealt. It's the entire system and those who represent the interests of all or the "whole" of us that can generate corrupt/selfish thinking that can take and take away more than it gives. It's a matter of conscience, Stick. All anyone must do is ask and answer the question, are we being fair/honest enough with ourselves and one another regarding what is best for us, the planet and everyone else. Unfairness will breed abuse and warping of values, bodies and souls and resentment and revolution regardless of the social structure or what we want to call it. Example. If making sneakers creates pollution which causes global warming is it fair that only a small number of people get the value while the greatest number of people get their environment threatened without any benefit whatsoever? And what kind of values/thinking will this produce? |
| Aug. 15, 2011 gary c 418 posts | THIS IS A SOFTBALL SITE AL GORE |
| Aug. 15, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Got your answer, eh stick8? If you want to talk politics, start a new thread! |
| Aug. 16, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Stick8=I figured you would realize Einstein is way left. I happen to agree with you, but did not want this thread to become political. Sorry, not a slam at you! |
| Aug. 16, 2011 stick8 1992 posts | I believe your spot on Webbie and no offense taken on my end. I follow politics but my response was more of a characterization view rather than political. I can see how some might link politics into that subject so this being a softball board it would be best to nip it in the budd so to speak. Meanwhile I'm still bummed we're not going to St Louis to play. When are you guys playing again? |
| Aug. 16, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Hey stick-Desperados are headed to Denver for Labor Day-Rocky Mountain Inaugural Tourney-will be fun. Then I am flattered that Greco Hitmen 55M+ have asked me to go to Hemet with them. How about you? |
| Aug. 16, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Careful Mark. I have lots of ex teammates and friends on the Greco squad but most to all of them would be politically right of Alexander the Great. You should feel quite at home. Colonel, Suh. Sounds like you've enlisted some able bodied soldiers, suh. |
| Aug. 16, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | After 16 teams in 14 years you have a lot of ex-teammates-period! Sorry, I just could not resist that one. It should be fun though. :-) |
| Aug. 16, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Great guys. Freddie, Imlay, the Colonel himself. You'll have a great time. I didn't even list all the teams, Mark. It's more like 20. Nothing to apologize for. I'm proud and blessed. |
| Aug. 16, 2011 gary c 418 posts | Your act get's old quick. GET A LIFE. |
| Aug. 16, 2011 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | How is this comment not disparaging, SSUSA, in intent and content and it characterizes Gary C and his posts yet you continue to support him in direct opposition to your standards of conduct for this site. Not only does this appear wrong it begs the question why. Why DO you continue to support him in contradiction to your own standards for inappropriate behavior on this site? |
| Aug. 17, 2011 canIjack Men's 60 322 posts | I do believe that my QUESTION has been answered, Thanks ….. But All this other Sh-t that I am reading...... Please put it in your pipe and smoke it. Because, you guys really do get high on negative comments. And I'm really sick and tired of reading it, little boys. So get the F k off my thread! Some of us, really are tired of reading the hate mail on this site. Kennard |
| Aug. 17, 2011 stick8 1992 posts | Webbie our (OKI Players) next tourney is Las Vegas (LVSSA) at the end of September and Phoenix three weeks later. Those west coast teams are awful strong so we definitely have our work cut out for us. But it'll be nice playing in an event that has more than 2 major plus teams!! |
| Aug. 17, 2011 Tate22 Men's 60 280 posts | Good question Joe |
| Aug. 17, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Stick8-doggone it-Greco asked me to go with them to that one too, but our Desperado team is playing in Silver City. Shoot-would have been nice to say Hi! |
| Aug. 17, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | thanks, canljack |
| Aug. 17, 2011 stick8 1992 posts | One of these times Webbie. Perhaps Phoenix? |
| Aug. 18, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | We will be there. Good luck in Vegas. |
| Aug. 18, 2011 stick8 1992 posts | Thanks Webbie, we'll need it!! Good luck to you guys in Silver City. BTW, where is Silver City? |
| Aug. 19, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | New Mexico-fields are in Fort Bayard-huge metropolis of 85 people and 1 cop that works 25 hours a day, but the fields have synthetic outfields. Fun place to play. |
| Aug. 19, 2011 stick8 1992 posts | Sounds pretty nice. Is it in the mountains or in the valley? |
| Aug. 19, 2011 Freddie Men's 55 108 posts | elevation of about 6000 feet, we were there last weekend had a great time |
| Aug. 19, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Mountains all around, stick-hi Freddie-hope you did well. Thanks for the invite-maybe another time. |
| Aug. 21, 2011 stick8 1992 posts | Must be pretty scenic. First time I ever played Huntsman games I get up for my first at bat and looked out at the mountains and clear blue sky. I asked for time and just gazed out for a few seconds. The ump asked if I was alright and I said "yes, just not used to this type of scenary, it's so beautiful" He understood. I've played at some nice places but St George has to be right at or near the top. |
| Aug. 21, 2011 mad dog Men's 65 4191 posts | oh yeah stick,got to agree with ya on that,one beautiful place to play.... |
| Aug. 21, 2011 Webbie25 Men's 70 2414 posts | Stick-Telluride,Co is by far the most scenic place I've ever played. Breathtaking. Surf88-Ed-is going to put together a tourney there next July. Worth thinking about. |
| Aug. 24, 2011 softballgramps57 Men's 55 1 posts | I guess i can forget about writing Sacramento to ask them if I can be rerated from Major to AAA, I'm just an average AAA player but because I played with a Team for one tournment in Janauary after they were rerated to Major from AAA 2 weeks before that tournment, i'm now a Major player, I tryed to join a 55AAA team but was told by George that it would put that team over the limit of Major players to stay AAA |
