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| Sept. 16 Gideon60 Men's 50 42 posts | Just wondering? |
| Sept. 16 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | really cool all tournament patches ! Lol |
| Sept. 16 Gideon60 Men's 50 42 posts | nice!!!!! |
| Sept. 16 boston Men's 60 355 posts | You are obviously new on this board. The consensus is thrill of playing the game you love, being with your buddies and drinking beer.There is nothing else that matters. |
| Sept. 16 Gideon60 Men's 50 42 posts | Thats real cool and to boston,beer leagues have been gone awhile now.We are here to win. |
| Sept. 16 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Ken, Your team should do well, but there are quite a few vg 50's teams listed. Will beat Quigley all to hell. |
| Sept. 16 Gideon60 Men's 50 42 posts | Ya I'm sure,I guess we do the best we can and see how it goes.I think the old saying is ANY GIVEN DAY! |
| Sept. 16 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Yes close to that. Enjoy the sights at night, meet the players during the day. You'll go back too. |
| Sept. 16 Gideon60 Men's 50 42 posts | Ya hope to.Are you going with a Team? |
| Sept. 16 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | Can't afford it. Did at least 5 maybe 7 trips there. Only one bad time due to event scheduling. (LVSSA). |
| Sept. 16 cyborg45 Men's 75 194 posts | Playing against the best should do it for you! You will find most of them at Vegas. . |
| Sept. 16 ShaneV Men's 55 393 posts | Uh, directors and umpires that are well rested and sharp after a good night's sleep in a comfortable room. Uh, directors that love the game, because they certainly are not getting rich doing this. Uh, decent umpires who love the game, who pay their own expenses to get to Las Vegas, pay for their own meals, etc., and who also are not getting rich. Uh, decent playfields that are usually not free. Uh, all that Las Vegas has to offer. Of course you're there to play softball but you have some free time to kill in a great location. Almost like a free vacation beyond the softball. Uh, time away from the everyday, whether that's work OR retirement. I think I could go on and on... ShaneV |
| Sept. 16 Olden Slow Men's 75 209 posts | Shane gets it..I play...well, because I still can... |
| Sept. 16 Duke Men's 65 908 posts | $695 per team!! |
| Sept. 17 THECAT 65 posts | The other qualifiers almost look the same. $525 or more with patches and also some great grab bag gifts most likely donated or cost of $8-10 and then of course options to BUY RING.Now that we are playing almost the same teams over and over again IN THE QUALIFIERS let's at least get a better bang for the very important dollars spent to get to and stay at all tourneys chosen by the SSUSA. THE T-SHIRTS AND POLO SHIRTS YOU HAVE TO BUY AT THE TOURNEYS HAVE MORE VALUE THAN THE AWARDS GIVEN OUT AT THE QUALIFIERS. INTERESTING HEY!!! I QUESS WE HAVE TO MAKE ENOUGH TO GIVE OUT THE FREE RINGS FOR TOC AND THIS WORLD TOURNEY. |
| Sept. 18 JamesLG 420 posts | It is not about the $695, it is about playing teams from all over the country and having a blast. I sent the check in for our club and felt like it was a bargin just because we will be playing teams we rarely if ever see at a great place to place ball. James |
| Sept. 18 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | JamesLG, That is one side of the coin (players) other side is the business end, Profit. |
| Sept. 18 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Did I forget to mention the Cool all tourney patches.. :0 |
| Sept. 19 ShaneV Men's 55 393 posts | I don't have any specific details to defend SSUSA or the price of this particular tournament, or any others for that matter however there is this, referring to the "non-profit" status. Imagine if SSUSA also had to make a profit for it's owners, pay income tax and charge sales tax. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think "profit" comes into play here. Salaries - yes, per diem - yes, a few perks - maybe yes, bonuses - maybe yes, profit - I don't think so: Financial Disclosures - IRS Required Senior Softball World Championships, Inc., is a tax-exempt organization, under IRC ยง501(c)(3), subject to the Internal Revenue Service financial information disclosure requirements listed below: Public Disclosure Requirements Applicable to Tax-Exempt Organizations In general, exempt organizations must make available for public inspection certain annual returns...and must provide copies of such returns...to individuals who request them. Copies usually must be provided immediately in the case of in-person requests, and within 30 days in the case of written requests. The tax-exempt organization may charge a reasonable copying fee (the current Federal approved photocopy rate is $0.20 per page) plus actual postage, if any. Exempt Organizations - Documents Subject to Public Disclosure An exempt organization must make available for public inspection and copying its annual return. Such returns include Form 990, Return of Organization Exempt From Income Tax (Senior Softball World Championships, Inc., files Form 990), Form 990-EZ, Short Form Return of Organization Exempt From Income Tax, Form 990-PF, Return of Private Foundation, Form 990-BL, Information and Initial Excise Tax Return for Black Lung Benefit Trusts and Certain Related Persons, and the Form 1065, U.S. Partnership Return of Income, filed after August 17, 2006. Returns must be available for a three-year period beginning with the due date of the return (including any extension of time for filing). |
| Sept. 19 southernson 280 posts | ShaneV, You are sadly mistaken if it's about the "love" of the game in it's entireity. Profit has become quite the thing in Senior softball. It's obvious you don't write any checks for entry fees..or hotels, or food, or transportation, or....the list goes on. Is it hard to make profit disappear in the form of expenses or reserves? Ask an accountant that question and watch them laugh... SSUSA does a good job. But $695 is just the beginning... |
| Sept. 19 ShaneV Men's 55 393 posts | I rewpect your opinion southernson and don't expect to change it any time soon. I do love the game and ask myself "how much?" each day. I do, in fact, 25% sponsor a team, travel around WA and to CA, NV, UT, CO & AZ with that team, pay for flights, gas, hotel rooms, meals, slots, water, pop, beer (only for K's since I don't drink), etc. Unlike a non-profit, I do profit, or at least earn wages directing tournaments and umpiring, and that offsets most of my softball expenses. I could not afford to travel as much if I didn't. I wish I had more details of the books of the big softball organizations. Until I know for sure we're being "gouged", I'll continue to defend them. ShaneV |
| Sept. 19 ShaneV Men's 55 393 posts | respect, not rewpect! |
| Sept. 19 stick8 1992 posts | Gidgeon60 I would think everyone is there to win |
| Sept. 21 wingfoot 18 posts | THATS OK GUYS, FOR MY $675.00 I GET TO PLAY IN A BRACKET WHERE IF WE'RE HAVING A REALLLLYYY GOOD WEEKEND WE MIGHT WIN 1 GAME. LOVE THE THE GAME, BUT DO NOT APPRECIATE THE "ATTITUDE" TOWARDS THE PLAYING LEVEL TEAMS. I'M VERY SURE THEY WORK VERY HARD IN THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S "ALL ABOUT" THE PLAYERS. |
| Sept. 21 southernson 280 posts | ShaneV, Thanks for the info,appreciate it. OK, you obviously do have some insight to the expense side...I respect that, and your opinion. |
| Sept. 28 Ernies 53 Men's 50 22 posts | 446 teams at Vegas, 310,000! Not a bad weekend. Lots of costs to cover though. |
| Sept. 29 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Yep Ernies 53,,, they have a few hundred sweet patches to give out! ;) |
