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Nov. 15, 2019
lsb/18
5 posts
results
can I get the top 3 teams from the winter worlds in each div.
Nov. 15, 2019
grayhitter59
Men's 55
258 posts
No can do ISB/18 the rock pad broke when someone hit it to hard (stone age)get it. LMAO
Nov. 15, 2019
DaveDowell
Men's 65
2843 posts
Lsb/18 ... All results (top finishers) and game scores/brackets details are available from the links on the event Tournament Page of this website ... (Manny: That was pretty funny!)
Nov. 16, 2019
stever
Men's 70
93 posts
Dave, I can't find the results.
Nov. 16, 2019
JBTexas
Men's 70
398 posts
I can't find them either, I thought it was just me. Saw some for winter Nationals but nothing with world's.
Nov. 16, 2019
Dbax
Men's 60
1863 posts
Nothing is posted on the Winter Worlds.
Nov. 17, 2019
Gonedeep43
69 posts
You know, USSSA has a real nice Program that's able to put up results in real time. Maybe SSUSA should contact Utrip/GSL to maybe get in on this modern program?? Just a thought??
Nov. 18, 2019
dwniel
8 posts
Until they spend the money to purchase a program that will allow each director from each tournament and complex to update games, this will never change. No reason why this organization can't purchase the same program that ISSA uses for their tournaments, all games in that organizational tournaments are updated by complex directors within 1/2 hour of when the games are finished. With the increasing cost of SSUSA tournaments compared to other organizations costs of tournament, the cost is minimal to purchase a program like this and not have to rely on one director sitting in California to always have to input the results. We have been beating a dead horse for several years on this topic and nothing ever seems to be resolved as a solution. Many Senior softball players like to see the results of all of the tournaments that are played but SSUSA has always been lacking in this and will not change.
Nov. 18, 2019
ranhum
7 posts
Nothing is posted?? Winter Worlds
Nov. 18, 2019
TOMAR77
Men's 65
306 posts
Hit the Refresh 3/4-circle.
Tomar
Nov. 18, 2019
TOMAR77
Men's 65
306 posts
I hit it but no scores ? This is how I retrieved the scores in the past.
Tomar
Nov. 18, 2019
Wood_1966
Men's 50
96 posts
The Winter Nationals scores are there, but nothing from the Winter Worlds in Phoenix. Give it a couple days and I am sure it will be updated, it is only Monday after all!
Nov. 18, 2019
Opie83704
13 posts
Phoenix 50+ Major results....1)Homer Lovers - ON, 2)Jayco/ISP - ID, 3)Thunderstruck - AZ.
Nov. 18, 2019
titanhd
Men's 50
570 posts
dwniel.

I've notice that the cost is always "minimal " when someone else is doing the spending! ha!
Nov. 18, 2019
Wood_1966
Men's 50
96 posts
All you really need to use to coordinate/report all the game results is pretty much some knowledge of Microsoft Excel and an internet connection at the fields. If you have that, you can update the results and the schedule quite easily, and share it as well. But one thing I have learned since I started playing senior softball, at the local and national level, is a real reluctance to embrace technology. So much is on paper or manual still that it amazes me.

That being said, I have just adjusted my expectations as to when the scores will be posted and I am a much happier person now...HAHA!

I would gladly offer my assistance to anyone from SSUSA who would like to to give automating the game tracking.....
Nov. 18, 2019
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1331 posts
titanhd, excellent point. What most people do not realize is that the suggestions that a couple of people have made is that there is no OTS (Off the Shelf) software that handles anything like this. They cater to normal softball which is usually round robin or double elimination. This is totally custom, and the magnitude is much greater as the other senior associations have so many fewer teams and much smaller tournaments. I don't have a pony in the race but have been an analyst a long time. This is not an easy or inexpensive one to solve.

I usually make this point about once a year, but another senior association was mentioned. I lost a friend of mine at one of their tournaments. He had a heart attack. There was no on site AED, and apparently no directors were trained in CPR because one of our other Indy teams was there in Ohio on the next diamond. They stopped their game to attempt to rescue him. They were able to bring him back a couple of times before EMTs arrived. He died the next day. He might not have lived with an AED on site, but we will never know. He would have had a better chance of surviving. I would rather have my friend back than to ever know the score of any game. This is why I call SSUSA the organization with a heart. They have AEDs on site, and directors are trained in CPR.
Nov. 18, 2019
Dbax
Men's 60
1863 posts
I say this every couple of months when someone complains. You don't need any expensive software. All you need to do is take a pic of the brackets and post it like Tim did for the Winter Nationals. He also did it for the Worlds in Vegas. Problem solved.
Nov. 18, 2019
lowprofile
53 posts
I think the biggest thing is seeing the entire brackets with scores not just the top 3. As for the worlds being posted, I was looking at the 50's and you could just barely read the hand written scores as they were not always written clearly and someone did it on colored paper lol?
I couldn't even read the 50 majors, I think it was like on pink paper or something on some of the brackets? and barely legible.

I think Nancy makes a valid point as we all are at risk of having a heart attack at our ages and my hats off to SSUSA for having the for-site to have the AEDs on site just incase!

SSUSA does have a great product because we would not be playing if they didn't, I think this is the only sticking point for this organization that almost all the players look forward too seeing but not available. For me I want to see the entire bracket with all the scores not just top 3 JMO. Every year this subject comes up, and I'm sure it's something there looking into.
Nov. 20, 2019
softball4b
Men's 65
1116 posts
https://seniorsoftball.com/?event=1390

Scores Posted
Nov. 20, 2019
jimperry19
45 posts
Thank you to SSUSA for getting the scores for the Winter Worlds on line. I also want to add that even the notion that SSUSA does not get up to date on technology is because they have chosen saving lives over the need for up to date scoring is so beyond ridiculous that is makes my head hurt. I am not an accountant, but I am going to wager to say that with what tournaments cost we could probably have AEDs and some modern technology. SSUSA, thank you for a great event in Phoenix, excellent field care, approachable TD, good umping etc. Thanks AZ Old School and Colorado Thunder for some great games. Your teams are total class acts.
Nov. 21, 2019
grayhitter59
Men's 55
258 posts
I agree withjimperry19, one thing has nothing to do with the other. The money that is made with player and team registration, along with tournament entry fee, should be more than enough to cover the small cost of this software.

I think this has more to do with allowing access to the web page.

my 2 cents.
Nov. 21, 2019
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1331 posts
Grayhitter59, you know that I respect your opinion. For SSUSA I agree that one thing has nothing to do with the other. My thoughts have more to do with some people saying that another association is better because they post scores more quickly. It is that association that did not have an AED machine on site. Since their director(s) did not come to assist, I assume that they may not have been CPR certified. I am very upset about losing my friend during that tournament. So that is what creates my soapbox. The only thing that I would disagree with you on is the cost of software. Custom software is not cheap. No OTS (Off the Shelf ) software covers the tournament format that we are familiar with for seniors. Hopefully someday we can talk about all this in person.
Nov. 21, 2019
grayhitter59
Men's 55
258 posts
Nancy, no doubt lives come way before any of this, my point is that the only place SSUSA is lacking is method of posting score.
I disagree with you when it come to posting scores. The only thing need is the capability to have access to the website and fill in the already posted brackets.

I believe it's management not wanting to give up that access to TD.

my 2 cents.

PS would very much enjoy sharing a Gatorade with you and discussing softball.

Good luck in 2020
Nov. 21, 2019
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1331 posts
grayhitter59, from my experiences, they definitely would like this off of their back as well. I know that they have tried. Unfortunately OTS solutions just won't work for this. SSUSA is a class act in my book. Yes, but mine might be an adult beverage. I would love to swap stories with you. I could tell you about the old days when we just showed up at parks to find out what our brackets were. I have an excellent story about the surprise that we got in Johnson City (definitely not a SSUSA tournament).
Nov. 21, 2019
grayhitter59
Men's 55
258 posts
You mean when the hottest bat was a Howard 36 oz, but you must agree that this organization needs to get with technology. I am not a computer major, but i do know that having access to the web page would allow scores to be entered.
Nov. 22, 2019
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1331 posts
grayhitter, I don't remember a Howard. A lot of our guys (decade older than me) swung 36 and 38 oz Bombats. I had a very hard time finding even a 30 oz. Now that is a "heavy" bat, and I swing a 25 or 26 oz. Ray Demarini was the best thing that even happened to slowpitch bats. It seems that bat speed was important. Yes, it was maybe a real caveman sport before he revolutionized the bat concept. Thanks for the fond memory.
Nov. 22, 2019
Ho
298 posts
I remember the HOWARD FURNITURE bat which came out in the 60's (sold by the HOWARD FURNITURE POWER HOUSE TRAVEL SOFTBALL TEAM at their exhibition games}...the same time SLO-PITCH got huge when players who couldn't hit fast pitch and pitchers who couldn't get anyone out found slo-pitch easier to play.
Batting averages soared from using the "lead pipe" 36-oz to .500 or better from guys who couldn't hit .200 in fast pitch.
It (HOWARD BAT) also cut down on the different weight, size of wooden bats and the varieties of metal bats (water loaded, bent handle, bottle, half n' half, etc) that were available in the early years of slo-pitch.
Fast Pitch softball was the greatest game but when you reached 35-40 you were too old and couldn't keep up with the game.
To all you old fast pitch players , do you remember when slo-pitch leagues started and most of the manager/sponsors were "rag-arm" pitchers who surrounded themselves with the best talent available so they could now shine as a slo-pitch pitcher on a really good team?
Still have that HOWARD FURNITURE bat in my closet.
Thanks for the memories,
Ho
Nov. 22, 2019
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
1331 posts
Ho, thank you. That is really interesting. My older friends have told me a lot about the introduction of slowpitch when everyone was playing fastpitch. I will have to see what they remember about that bat. Now we only have one park left that plays fastpitch here. Coachie gave his Tidal Wave to a friend that really wanted it. I still have the Broadsider (triangular bat). It was nice to revisit those memories.
Nov. 22, 2019
chico senior
Men's 60
125 posts
Back in the late 70ís our team ( Ridgemen of Paradise)won the California State A 2 years in a row. We all swung 36 or 38 ounce Bombats. Now Iím thinking of going to a 25 ounce bat. Times change!

One of the few weekends we were not playing myself and a teammate were asked to do to Elk Grove and play with the Washoe Merchants out of Reno. The ASA tournament had 4 Major teams and 8 A teams. We lucked out and won our first game and got to play Cambellís Carpet. They were like todays Timberworks X 2!!! They must of had 8 guys about 6í6Ē and about 280 pounds of muscle. I believe they were also sponsored by Bombat. We were nickel and diming them to death. The guys we were playing with had never even heard of the team we were playing. We told them to not rile them up. About that time we had a guy head first into 2nd , jump up and start yelling to shove it up their a__. We had them down something like 17- 12 in the fourth inning when this happened. The next inning they came up and hit 17 consecutive homers. We gave them the best game of the tournament and lost like 39 - 19. They made those 38 ounce bats look like toothpicks! They were the best team in the country for years.
Nov. 23, 2019
Fabe
Men's 60
414 posts
60 Majors:
Hawaii Five O
Arizona Legends
Arizona Old School
We were bless to play against n pray with other Braddahs!
Aloha, Fabe
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