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July 16, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
gsc bat latest web site update
Maybe still hope for the gsc senior bat. New site update says bat coming soon. And the gsc does now mean Gods Bat Company. I may bite again and wait another month.
July 16, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Who's running it? Lucifer?
July 16, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Naah, the other one; A$$Obama, it's a stimulus package.
July 16, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
LMAO Taits... I believe it's the new Green Bat company...
July 16, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
The the GSC stands for Good Sports Company. My mistake, it appears, to have shared this information. I get the venting, probably deserved, but I don't want to join the disrespect. My apologies.
July 16, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Gods Sports Company, my mistake again.
July 17, 2012
Paco13
353 posts
Taits, perhaps you did not vote for him, but the majority of the country did. He is our President reagardless of your affiliation and he deserves the respect that the country imparted upon him. Racist pigs likes you is why we as a country could never be unified.
July 17, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
I see nothing "racist" about his comment. Stupid yes, but I don't believe racist. Minorities really need to advance beyond using the race card.

And by the way, things like the NAACP, the United Negro College Fund, Miss Black America, BET, Historically Black Colleges, and Affirmative Action do little/nothing to promote unification.
July 17, 2012
Bomber23
46 posts
Let's stick to the main topic, when will the CORE bat be released? Steve, a note from the boss would greatly lift the spirits here!
July 17, 2012
God'sSportsCo
4 posts
Hello Gentlemen, I am happy to see you have been keeping up with the latest from GSC, and you have found the new website. We are growing continually closer to saturating the softball world with our new bats. The goal of God's Sports Company is to produce a bat that will honor Him. To do so we have been continuing to add the necessary pieces to our company to make sure we are prepared for what is coming. We thank you for your continued interest and patience, knowing that you will not be dissapointed in the final product. Should you have any questions please feel free to contact us...
Thank you,
Chip Kimmich
Executive Director
God's Sports Company
chip@gscbats.com
July 17, 2012
canIjack
Men's 60
319 posts
Hey Gary, I too see nothing "racist" about tait's comment.
But You saying....And by the way, things like the NAACP, the United Negro College Fund, Miss Black America, BET, Historically Black Colleges, and Affirmative Action do little/nothing to promote unification. Only a Hill Billy Racist, would say and think those things. I have been a member and donated TIME AND MONE to those great Institions. NAACP was the driving force behind the Busing to Unifi-
Education.
YOU JUST LIKE RUNNING YOUR F...IN MOUTH.
July 17, 2012
canIjack
Men's 60
319 posts
SPELL CHECK:

Hey Gary, I too see nothing "racist" about tait's comment.
But You saying....And by the way, things like the NAACP, the United Negro College Fund, Miss Black America, BET, Historically Black Colleges, and Affirmative Action do little/nothing to promote unification. Only a Hill Billy Racist, would say and think those things. I have been a member and donated TIME AND MONEY to those great Intuitions. NAACP was the driving force behind the Busing to Unifi-
Education.
YOU JUST LIKE RUNNING YOUR F...IN MOUTH
July 17, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
"Hill Billy Racist" When in doubt, or just out of vocabulary, resort to name-calling. Not fresh at all.....:(

Anything singularly identified by race does not promote unification, by definition. How about we call it the NAAP? Or the United College Fund? And where is the WET network?

So many seem to want to point at whites, right or wrong, as the ones being racist.
July 17, 2012
southernson
250 posts
Chip, nice corporate speak 101....but you're not off to a good start with a "Gods Sports Company" that hasn't produced a bat, yet has proclaimed for over a year to conquer the softball world "real soon". Where can I buy my special holy water and miracle napkin as well?

Right now you've produced a foul vapor of a reputation among players,unkept production promises, funds paid without goods provided for over a year, this whole thing has become legendary as the biggest joke on message board, and trust me from one brother to another...."there's no Honor to Anyone in that".

I'd just use GSC for now if I was you....
until you "Honor" the commitment to those who purchased. Thank God only one of my players did...


July 17, 2012
God'sSportsCo
4 posts
Thanks Southernson,

Please understand this, God's Sports Company has no legal obligation to honor the orders that Gates Sports Company received payment for.

That being said, we fully intend to honor orders for bats that were never sent out by Gates or for replacements bats that should have gone out from Gates Sports Company, even though God's Sports Company itself has never seen a penny from those sales.

Understand that God's Sports Company is not just a name change from Gates. It is new ownership, new production, new staff, and new direction.

Southernson, If you are one of the ones who was mistreated by Gates with your previous bat order, please contact me directly. I will personally make sure you are among the 1st bats sent upon full production.

Thank you,
Chip Kimmich

July 17, 2012
SALSAKID49
Men's 55
101 posts
@TAITS... LOL! NAHHH you got it all wrong..! GSC stands for GOP SUCKS CORPS....;) And to CANLJACK... What's up brother..:)? Well said about NAACP.. I've supported NAACP for years....
Jose NCI...
July 17, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
413 posts
The 1 thing that unifies the GOP is the desire to make the Pres. a 1-term pres. For many it is an honest difference in policy. That said, it is clear to anyone who listens that many who speak against the Pres. are racists. I hear it in my own family, I hear it socially and I hear it from teammates. It is a fact of life and widespread.
There simply is a part of our society which cannot deal with the fact that their way of life is changing. 30 years from now we will not be a predominantly white country and that is a fact.
Many see change with gay marriage which they don't like, but ask the kids, they don't care.
Calling someone a racist should not be done lightly and in my opinion was inappropriate here.

All groups, and not just black groups, have their own organizations which promulgate their issues.
Almost all of us are or came from immigrants and all immigrant groups had societies to help the newest immigrants. To make the generalization that the black organizations did little or nothing to promote unification is factually inaccurate. W/o their efforts lunch counters would still be separate and there would be white only water fountains and we would have separate but "equal" schools. Many whites joined the battle for civil rights and it is praiseworthy. Be careful with labels and be careful with generalizations.

July 17, 2012
jrhunch
85 posts
some of the players on the pace55's team purchased the original bat made in china and also ordered the new bat from bill gates.you know the rest of the story.my team is not worried about our situation.we have played against steve many times and find him to be an honorable man.the east coast rep is also a class act.these 2 men are telling us they will make good on the shady dealings of bill gates.this is good enough for me and my teammates.i realize that they dont have to make good on this legally.i also know that wouldnt be good for a new business.this hasnt been conveyed to me by them they have consistantly stood by their product.i realize they havent produced it yet but i hope when it is finished it will turnout great.there is talk on this site about politicians who continually rob us that the majority keeps voting for and keeps forgiving but an honest man who is trying to do something positive is put down.i am not saying that complaints are not valid all i am saying is what is wrong with giving the company more time to get things right.what do we have to lose they already have our money.keep hitting and stay safe
jr#11 pace
July 18, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Chip, Thanks for your replies. Setting the bad history aside. Can you answer some practical questions. When and how will your company announce it is taking new orders. What is the expected price range. When and how can the bat be demonstrated. Has the bat been approved for senior play yet. Answering these questions will help renew credibility here. I respect your efforts and faith. Hopefully others will also, if you can honestly and simply give your best efforts to answer it will be appreciated. Good luck to you and all involved.
July 18, 2012
southernson
250 posts
Chip,
That's class, and I respect your response greatly.

Thanks...
July 18, 2012
God'sSportsCo
4 posts
CAPT D5,

The plan is to use online and on the ground marketing as much as possible. We are currently adding to our rep force to try and cover the nation as completely as possible.

We have not set a final MSRP but we will be accurately priced for the quality of the bat and the 1-year warranty that will be in place.

Our rep force will have bats in hand to be able to show and demo, and as our rep force grows so will our demo coverage. You can also expect to see GSC representation at most of the large Regional and National Tournaments.

In a meeting this morning with our CEO Steve McKinlay, he confirmed with me that our bats already have the necessary approval to go right into senior league and tournament play.

If you or anyone else on the message board would like to be alerted when the bat is released, please send me a email with your direct contact info, and I will contact you when they are ready to ship.

I hope this answers some of your questions and reassures you that we are continuing to move forward with the P413 Senior bat.

Should you have any other questions please feel free to contact me directly.

Thank you,
Chip Kimmich
Executive Director
God's Sports Company
chip@gscbats.com
July 18, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Wow.. so much drama.... how about giving a ball park on when this bat is going to hit the market... next month christmas next year? LOL.. I think you guys might have a great product with all the ball players that are involved but info coming out is terrible! IMO
No price listed, not time frame listed, no idea how this bat will perform compared to other bats!
July 18, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Guess God knows the answers!
July 18, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
At this point how is anyone taking this bat at all seriously?
July 18, 2012
donll
55 posts
Chip,
I may be wrong but when someone buys a company don’t they get all the company’s assets and liabilities? I’m assuming they bought the debt-it doesn’t go away just because they “say” they are not responsible. Also I was wondering if you could share Steve MacKinlay’s previous experience as a ”CEO” as well as any previous experience he has in manufacturing bats, or sporting goods, or anything for that matter.
July 18, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
More like a name changes with same characters still involved. Just another form of scamming to try & keep the faith. Nothing has ever that I am aware of come to pass that has been stated, dates, BP, sessions etc, Smoke and mirrors.
But MAYBE. Yea, down the road, err; month, year, decade...

Still think it's a painted Decker Jump Bat. Same bat contour. All that was needed was white paint and a decal set. No one knows if it actually exists or I's think at least one person would have said they actually hit with it or saw the inside of one.

I guess that is their definition of integrity through all this.
July 18, 2012
400
Men's 50
74 posts
donll: Interesting cynical approach you're taking. I don't recall seeing you "once" question the capabilities or experience of the CEO's for MIKEN, COMBAT or REEBOK. Leads me to your question your capability to assess or evaluate whatever answer you may receive in return.
July 18, 2012
400
Men's 50
74 posts
taits: Just another grumpy old guy getting on this discussion and throwing stones. It certainly makes me wonder about the integrity of the attacker! Question for you: You post very requently (3500) and counting. How many of your posts are positive comments and opinions or just grumpy old guy negative statements or commentary?
July 18, 2012
Dbax
Men's 60
1223 posts
400.....I don't believe the CEO's from those other companies ripped off hundreds of senior players. Taits, you are 100% accurate in this scam of a company. And now to name it after God, what an F ing joke!!
July 18, 2012
donll
55 posts
400,
Miken and Combat already had bats on the market when I started playing Senior Softball so there was no need to question them as to when they would get their bat out or if they could produce one. Reebok is a multi-million/billion? dollar company. They obviously have experience in the manufacturing of sporting goods equipment. And, they have a bat out. Oh, and none of them to my knowledge have taken money from ball players and not delivered the goods. So perhaps if Chip would share the answers to the previously asked questions people would have a better idea about the feasibility of this bat ever being produced them ever getting made whole.
July 18, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Chip, Appreciated your reply It is obvious your company has made some mistakes. I believe though you are all making an earnest effort. Most of the people here will appreciate more Info when you can make it available People have a right to their views and you have to expect some flack based on the total story here. Your web site has stepped up and given personal backgrounds. Thats a big step toward credibility, as more steps are taken you will likely see rapid support. I will contact you or the nearest representative to put my name on your notification list. Again, good luck.
July 18, 2012
rightrj1
Men's 55
180 posts
Guys, who are complaining about the way a NEW COMPANY that’s just getting started, need to try and start one for themselves! Or better yet purchased a company from someone who already has clients. I personally purchased 3 of the bats. I think Steve’s a stand up guy!I Just played ball with him this past weekend! He has told me numerous times, when the bats are released (We will be pleased) and that I along with everyone else that was done wrong bye MR. Gates and the Gate’s Bat Company would be taken care of! Why does one have to have prior experience running a company? To be CEO of a new company! Maybe Steve just has a lot of money and he decided to buy a Bat manufacturing company? Guys relax, play some softball. I think when released and it will be released, the bat will perform just as well, if not better then our currents bats that we all currently have in our bags! As someone has said ….STOP BEING GRUMPY OLD MEN…..
July 18, 2012
Al33
Men's 55
183 posts
Steve has been trying to straighten out a huge mess that was left to him. Many people know Steve from the softball diamond. The company has told us that they will make good on any previous sales. They are in no hurry to introduce an inferior product to the public and want to make sure it's ready and up to their expectations. I and my team have the utmost confidence that they will make good on their promises. What they are promising is honorable as they don't have to do what they are saying legallly. Cleaning up someone else's mess isn't as easy as one might think. I'm quite sure if they didn't think they had something good, they would've dropped out long ago. Just the fact they are still at and now communicating should say to the naysayers, give them a chance to complete the project. I and my team have been waiting patiently just like everyone else and am excited to see the final product with a one year warranty. I'm sure the big boys (Miken, Reebok, etc) can't wait either. You all just might be surprised at the end product. The design is totally different than anything on the market. Good Luck GSC.
July 18, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
413 posts
I have no personal stake in a GSC bat. From what I read the co. seems to be saying they are close to releasing the bat. If that is true, and it may be, I am wondering why none of the posters here have been asked to try out the bat. I would think that before they went into production, they would have asked knowledgeable SB players to try it out
and comment. Just today a combat seller commented that he is trying out a new proposed bat.
If the GSC bat were to have a 1-year warranty, then it would be insanity to release it before big hitters tested it with, say, 1500 to 2000 hits.
I hope I am wrong and all of this has been done or is in the process of being done.
July 18, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Hmmmmm calling guys asking legit questions is not grumpy... Real simple..

If I'm the company and someone ask me when is the bat going to be out.. I would say when I expect to! If I have hoops to jump through then I would say I have a few more hoops to jump through...

you had two years to come up with a price of the bat..

Then to name the company after God is a bit comical at this point.

My team was testing out the Demarini One this year, early on... We have a Factory Rep on our team.. So they ask us to hit it to see what we thought.. Last year we had three of their Blue SSbats and we broke them in 50 75 100 swings.. So we told them what we think! Promising on performance and not good at all on lasting!!! That bat didn't make it. Now the new one is lasting 300 plus swings and hitting it out there with the Reebok and is out performing what I had seen with the old blue one.
July 18, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
rightrj1..........if you had a lot of money, would you buy a bat company that put out a crappy product with a crappy paint job? A company with poor customer service and a bad overall reputation? Would you keep the same name, GSC, to remind customers of the crappy company? GOD's company? The selling bibles?

I would think that you would want a complete break from any association to the Gates name.

Is this bat going to have the USA flag on it? Will it be painted red, white and blue?
July 18, 2012
rightrj1
Men's 55
180 posts
Sal,
I had the same issues, but they were not with Steve and his company! They were with the Gate’s bat company and Mr. Gates was the one who made all the promises, not Steve!
I think Steve saw all of us getting screwed and he step in Fired Mr. Gates, and has as far as I know been real upfront as to the progress of his new company and the bat being released!
If the man wants to name his company after GOD, what’s wrong with that?
I think its great marketing!! The funny thing about all the guys who are complaining is that they DON”T even has a vested interest in the Bat….
Swing? the guys who are running this company, have played the game, I know Steve is a good hitter…They may decide that the bat is READY bye doing their own BP testing! Not by giving us samples for our review!
July 18, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
I do believe that Steve and his teammates can test the bats. I do have a problem with the name.
Every time a player miss hits a ball, he will blame his G...damn bat!
July 18, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Like I said before there are a lot of ball players(Good ball players) involved with this Bat... I hope it works out for all of them and their customers! I have been watching this for a while now and it's comical on how the info is getting out to it's customers. IMO Knowing how Gates kind of shafted everyone who bought these bats sight unseen, I would try to give as much info as posible to squelch the pissed off guys that invested in the Gates company... Kudos to GSC if they make good on their promise to honor the Gates company's sales!
July 18, 2012
Wayne 37
188 posts
It's true God answers all prayers. Most of the time that answer is NO!
July 19, 2012
jrhunch
85 posts
i know bill gates shafted us,i just wonder how much he shafted steve and the rest of the company.steve is saying he will make it right will end up costing his company alot of money.i wish steve and his company good luck in fixing this problem
July 19, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
In God's time, place & his own way. One may not like what he does. But he does answer.
July 19, 2012
hemi racer
Men's 65
63 posts
AMEN taits, don't sweat the little stuff. And bats are little stuff.

Lost my daughter couple of years ago, so that makes this little stuff.
July 19, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Definitely. Sorry for the families Major loss.
July 19, 2012
400
Men's 50
74 posts
Swing for the fences: Please make sure that you are responding to the right comment. You confused two posts. donll made his post questioning the CEO's resume'. taits post was the one that I questioned by stating, " How many of your posts are positive comments and opinions or just "grumpy old guy" negative statements or commentary?", because he questioned the integrity of someone I'm not quite sure he even knows.
I am involved with manufacturing and understand the issues surrounding R&D, transitioning into production, engineering issues, retooling, quality control of inbound materials and outbound customer delivery and satisfaction. There is alot to be done before the highly critical senior population can be satisfied. Steve and Chip keep moving forward and working hard. I ONLY HOPE THAT YOU FOLKS THAT CHALLENGE CREDIBILITY AND A PERSON'S ABILITY WILL BE THE FIRST ONES BACK TO POST WHEN THE PRODUCT HITS THE MARKET!!

DBAX: Point of Clarification - 1 CEO not plural. (Speaking of Grumpy Old Man) sorry guys we know each other and he IS "OLD".
July 19, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Be careful with what you wish for.
July 19, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
440cents whoops typo...lol,

Better look up the definition of the word integrity. This what ever company is NOT,
in any shape or form I can see and they are that which is used in\on their website.
Yea, I too actually hope something comes about, but after over 2 years and on of hype, it is like I said smoke and mirrors. What's the latest date, at last the fourth one?
Good for you on your job insight. Whoopie. Did most all that in the early 70's while you were probably in grade school.
That from a grumpy old man you say I am & which I hope you live long enough to enjoy as well.
Take care, stay healthy and safe David.

July 19, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Most everyone is all for the GSC. Unfortunately there have been stated availability dates the have repeatedly come and gone with the present management. If credibility is questioned, there has been cause. Unfortunately some have vented frustrations into insulating comments. Most of us understand business complications. Clear honest communication is all that most request. Its only a bat but evidently there is great interest, which doesn't make us dumb. This is great promotion overall, keeping attention on a coming product. When the product comes thru we who break bats often will be happy if the bat is reasonably priced. If the bat has a better sweet spot more will be happy. I don't personally think GOD needs a sport company, but nothing wrong with giving respect to ones faith. Perhaps we are all more than reason alone would suggest.
July 20, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
845 posts
I feel that it is time to speak up regarding this topic. I do not work for GSC. Steve purchased Melee from me early on to evidently test comparisons, etc. so I have had conversation with him. I have been impressed with his forthrightness and I have no doubt regarding his ethic, moral and religious standing.

I recently visited the factory and held a prototype of their bat in my hands. I was again impressed with the young engineer who is charged with building the bats. His desire to achieve quality and his reasoning to go slow until reaching same was clear to me.

It is easy in this forum to press the computer keys and attack others. It is my personal opinion at this junction to give this company the benefit of the doubt and continue to be patient with them. In the same breath, it may be prudent for some of the reps to keep silent for a time as some of the consumer public perhaps feels they have been abused or let down.

Time will unfold the truths in this and all things.
Surf88
July 20, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
surf88......Yes it would be prudent for the reps to keep silent until this wonder bat actually comes out. Bill Gates and his cronies gave us the same shtick before. We saw the results.
July 20, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts

surf88

You claim...
"I recently visited the factory and held a prototype of their bat in my hands."

So...
Where is the factory?
Tell us something more about the prototype!







July 20, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
845 posts
Because it is not my company or my business, that will be all that is shared by me at this point. I simply felt a need to address the negative posts running rampant in this forum.
July 20, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Ed,
I am acquainted with you and I feel your a stand up guy.
Am wondering however why it has taken so long for you to come forward and as the 1st one to do so, the questions remain, where is this place as just asked and were their actually more than the one seen in videos, ie a stock pile of these mass produced bats of the future.
Hope all this is on the up and up.,might be nice for a change.
July 20, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
413 posts
Read surf 88 carefully. You judge what "recently"
means. Prototype and go slowly implies to me that
as of recent visit by surf, the prototype was still being worked on. I assume that sales won't commence until there is a reasonable stockpile.
My guess is these bats at best won't be available until very late summer or early fall is all goes well.
I have no personal interest or axe to grind.
July 20, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts

surf88

You claim...
"I recently visited the factory and held a prototype of their bat in my hands."

So...
Where is the factory?
Tell us something more about the prototype!







July 20, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts

surf88

Why are you the only one that knows where the factory is?

You mean you can't even tell us in what Country or State these bats are being made?


July 20, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts

surf88

Why are you the only one that knows where the factory is?

You mean you can't even tell us in what Country or State these bats are being made?


July 20, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
I repeat, from above.......
"At this point how is anyone taking this bat at all seriously?"
July 20, 2012
Snot Nose Kid
38 posts
surf88 will you at least give us the date you were at the factory and held the prototype? Who was the company owner/manager at the time of your visit? If it is not your company or business, why would you go there?
July 20, 2012
Snot Nose Kid
38 posts
surf88 will you at least give us the date you were at the factory and held the prototype? Who was the company owner/manager at the time of your visit? If it is not your company or business, why would you go there?
July 20, 2012
Full Monty
76 posts

God'sSportsCo

What is the postal address of your company?



July 20, 2012
CallaVett
Men's 50
40 posts
The address is on the front page of their website.
July 20, 2012
Full Monty
76 posts

I mean where is the factory address?
July 20, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
If anyone wants the factory address just go to the GSC web site. Its listed clearly with street address, city, and state. There are also introductions for Steve and a few of his reps. We can be critical but we can also be fair. I believe these are good people from their messages.
July 20, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
The factory being on the East coast and the owner apparently on the West coast likely contributes to inaccurate projections. The last communicated release date was late August. If other than first hand factory supervision is involved misinformation is no surprise. At this point this is like a horse race. I will place a bet on these guys. I WON'T bet on a delivery date of August though.
July 20, 2012
Full Monty
76 posts

I did a Google Earth on the address given on the GSC website. The building appears to be like a Shopping Mall, Shopping Center or some sort of retail or office building. The building does not appear to be set up for any type of manufacturing. Also surf88 claims to have been at the factory but didn't indicate he was at that location. If the address of the factory is public knowledge, why didn't surf88 just say so?



July 20, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Surf88 probably thought no need to give a factory address because it was on the new web site. He indicated he wanted to help limit what he thought was unfair treatment. He also made clear as a rep for another bat company he should say nothing else. He seems to understand how upset so many are over the history of this bat. I share much of the frustration, having waited for over a year now before buying a needed new senior bat. One promised release date after another missed. The company may benefit from the continuing attention. Just give us acurate updates and facts. If you don't know for sure about something, GSC, just say so. It's no sin to not know. An apology might help when release dates are missed, instead of just saying be patient. Most people don't like being treated like over anxious children. Just release the bat when promised. We are prospective customers, nothing else really.
July 20, 2012
the wood
1071 posts
Surf88:
Your goal was to take the heat off the gsc guys? Mission accomplished.
Did U really think that minimal details and 'your terms' would suffice? I truly have nothing at stake here but find this whole issue to be like a Seinfeld episode. All about nothing.

Was it really Bill Gates or bill gately?
I'M sure that I would b pissed if I bought a prospective bat w/o follow up from gately. Who buys a bat w/o endorsements? If u do it's buyer beware. If the new management delivers, great. If not, blame yourself or gately'sgroup.
Taits: what's your role in this? Are u the appointed ombudsmen?
Come on, guys.
BW
July 21, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
BW,
I guess you could say that but more just one who doesn't like scammers. ie sellers of
Items who do not deliver within a reasonable time as said. 2 years plus in not reasonable.
Addy listed is like a strip mall, but could be outdated as well & could also be a mail drop at the UPS Store shown on Google maps.

HJ, of late occurrence or not long past, for recent. I too doubt only one prototype was made. AfterÊall there was supposed to be a BP session scheduled in PHX for players to see the bat. Didn't happen as far as known on here. Nor in Reno where Steve's team was listed to play. So where are all these?
IMO it's New a age 'item' with new age angle on snake oil salesmen without the oil.
If it actually surfaces, good deal. Perhaps it will be a bat of choice, one never knows, because no one had come onboard saying they actually used it or seen multiples of this bat let alone valid info from anyone about talk and moved up dates.
That last video had what looked like a ball bark on the "C" on it as well as at the end cap.. That is a good sign. But still no word from anyone saying they actually used one. Still no stamp from any assn. I could make out.
July 21, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts

Is there anybody out there that can check out this address and tell us what they found out?

The address is:
520 Folly Road P-265, Charleston, SC 29412



July 21, 2012
Snot Nose Kid
38 posts
It is ironic that the company's address is on "Folly Road"!
July 21, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
413 posts
Shut Up- already done by Full Monty above.
It looks like a strip SC and this is 1 unit in a
multi-tenanted building. Ironically, the building
contains a UPS store. In any event since there are restaurants in the SC it is unlikely the zoning would permit actual manufacturing. I don't think this is where Surf was since it would be a long trip to SC from his locale.
July 21, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts
I was wondering if anybody could physically go in and see if it's only a PO Box or what ever.
July 22, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Well IFÊanyone on here has it would be Ed by the way he posted, but I think he may have had to sign a non disclosure form to enter the wedding of the Pop-in fresh and Michelin tire person.
Anyway, a mail drop is not an real brick and mortar address.
Just a back door approach for 'future-rama' as a rep I think.
More smoke. Maybe that engineer involved in all this had too much THC intake. Thus the smoke part, mirrors lined up correctly might look like a 'factory' too... lmao
Who know they may 'eventually' have the last lol on here.
Lots of time will tell.
BTW a UPS store is at that addy.
July 22, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Reminder, Google Maps can be years old, since last update. The end of that complex looks like it could be fairly large. Anyway, many people are not happy with this saga. Hopefully, Steve and his crew are not being played by someone benefiting by stringing this thing along. I have no doubt these are mostly good people just struggling to get this right. I expect to be swinging the bat by the end of August, like Steve last said. If the date changes, I would expect an update.
July 22, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts

I'm still waiting for surf88 to tell us something about the prototype bat he had in his hands while he was at the GSC bat factory.

surf88, can you tell us what weight the bat was?

Since you sell Reebok bats, I would think you would have a pretty good idea of the weight.

Did the bat feel like the Reebok end load or balanced?

How would you compare it to the Reebok in feel?

Did the prototype have the same dimensions as the Reebok?

I can't figure out how GSC could make a "solid core" bat that has the same dimensions as the Reebok, and still be the same weight as a "hollow" Reebok.

surf, with all your bat knowledge and having actually handled the bat, you can shed some light on the above questions.



July 22, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
The hollow bats use a rod in the handle to supply bat weight someone said on this site. Perhaps less weight in the handle is what allows the solid core bat to work weight wise. Just a conjecture. It would be nice if we did have more info on the bat design.
July 23, 2012
B-DUB
Men's 50
29 posts
This is a product that feeds the ego just like greed. God doesn't like either of them.

I too have lost my dear sweet daughter in Nov. 2011 ^^^
July 23, 2012
hemi racer
Men's 65
63 posts
B-DUB I'm so sorry for your loss. I am one of the few people who know exactly how you feel. Losing a parent or other family member is terrible, BUT nothing like losing a child.

Would love to encourage you and tell you it gets better with time, BUT it does not. Lost my daughter all most thirteen years ago. It is the first thing you think about in the morning and the last thing at night.

Thanks guys for letting B-DUB and I get a little off the subject here.

July 23, 2012
Snot Nose Kid
38 posts

Is the video on the GSC website working?
I just tried to get it to play but nothing.
Is it just my computer not working or is this the same for others?


July 23, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Same problem. On old web I stopped getting the video on my mobile PDA, but got it on my lap top. Then I got the new video, on New web site, on my mobile. Now can't get it. To B-DUB Very sorry for your pain.
July 23, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Click on the 'GSC basts update' that works...same old BS video.
July 24, 2012
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
Send me 500.00 via western union and i will send you money that has been put aside for you via unclaimed funds worth 1million in your name.

email Grinch19@iknoweverything.com

July 24, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Tools, quite a magnanimous gesture....:)
Aug. 3, 2012
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
for all of you who have so easily bashed and criticizes,are you man enough to state here as well, that you were WRONG,once the GOD'S sports company proves that they are men of their WORD??? i say you won't. you have no problem condeming men that you don't even know,yet are not man enough to admit you were wrong. SAY it! give your WORD, if it means anything to you, that you will admit HERE, that you were WRONG!! some of these questions you are asking are rediculous.( the ceo,adress, experience,the feel,.....) it is sickening to read some of your post.
i back this man and his company 100%,and i have never met him in person. i also trust 100% in GOD ALMIGHTY, and i have not met him in person. "faith comes by hearing,and hearing by the word of GOD"
Aug. 3, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
By chacnce are you really Billy Graham?
Aug. 3, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Dennis, I actually thing it's close to blasphemous to use GOD in all this because God would not have given many dates to do this or that, not fulfilled any of them as in this case. Nothing to date has come about on time for showcasing any product. That includes the BP session in PHX as well. That is unless they are holding some sort of convoluted services the mail drop UPS location with unknown days and times...
Sure there is 'hope' just like Obama has said... Show is a license to manufacture the bat. Not something you can make up on a pc but than be checked out.
I doubt that too will happen any time soon, so surprise us.
And by your last sentence I would question much of what you say from now on if you think they are and type of g o d. except for maybe 666 which is more likely.
But yes is all this comes to pass with the players getting that which was said they receive, I could admit being wrong, but I wouldn't be up to that date. only after word for which I say anything. And to date nothing said I can think of has been wrong.
What is it now about 3 years and counting with no show and tell. Don't forget all the other companies in line for jumping on the band wagon. Well maybe if and when they become available.
Aug. 3, 2012
HJ
Men's 70
413 posts
Pitcher, there are good people in all religions and there are bad people in all religions who use religion in nefarious ways. I hope GSC bats have honorable people running it now.
Religion has nothing to do with this situation and the name of the co. is irrelevant. I have no personal interest in this bat. Your immediately prior post said the bats would be delivered by the end of June. Clearly that has not come to pass. The simple fact is many people in good faith paid for something they have not received in a timely manner and they are not happy. The simple fact is that you would not give more money
to this company at this time for a bat. I hope everyone gets their bats and they perform well.
That said, based on the long wait, they have nothing to apologize for if, as, and when they get their bats.
Aug. 3, 2012
southernson
250 posts
Taits, agree with you seems pretty close to blasphemy, I really think there needs to be some soul searching there......

I've only been playing Senior Ball 8 years, but this is easily the greatest single fiasco, and if it was going to happen, it would have by now.

So, just wondering how many of the cheerleaders have placed an order in the last 30 days? Yeah, right...





Aug. 3, 2012
Pull My Finger
68 posts

pitcher55

When and how many bats did you order?
When do you expect to get them?
Aug. 3, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
55 has trust in the invisible man and bat! LOL
Aug. 3, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Problem seems to be that so many were once again searching for the latest magic bat that they foolishly paid sight unseen.

Someone once said "caveat emptor" for a reason.
Aug. 3, 2012
Pull My Finger
68 posts

pitcher55

When and how many bats did you order?
When do you expect to get them?
Aug. 3, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
671 posts
I for one ordered a ASA Spirit Bat from GSC. The only reason that I did was because it saved me approx. 120 dollars over the top ASA bat.If I do not get the bat shame on me for not taking the old one that was offered to me as a loaner. I have nothing but time so I will not hold my breath waiting for the bat. If I get it great if not there is not much that I can do about it. I would rather worry about catching the next rocket that is hit at me.Good Luck to my team at the Eastern Nationals. I had to work and could not go. Thanks Harry #20 NV FORCE
Aug. 3, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Harry, remember people tend to get what they pay for. Or in this case, maybe not even that.
Aug. 3, 2012
Pull My Finger
68 posts
birdie
When did you order the ASA Spirit bat?
How much did it cost?
All I see at the GSC website is "COMING SOON".
Aug. 3, 2012
Pull My Finger
68 posts
birdie
When did you order the ASA Spirit bat?
How much did it cost?
All I see at the GSC website is "COMING SOON".
Aug. 3, 2012
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
i have never met steve, but he did call me twice,each day after i left him an email. each time, we had a very nice conversation.i am a pretty good judge of character,and i was convinced that he had plenty!
rememember guys, it wasn't that long ago that he bought this company from bill.it was in dire shape,with many people waiting for the bats that they had paid for. he dedicated his new venture to the LORD,and changed the name of the company to honor HIM. he had no obligation to fullfill the orders of the previous company,but he has stated he would,costing him tons of money.that is character.
if i were him, i would not respond to all this nonsence. it takes time to turn a company around. things happen,things go wrong that were not expected.taits,why are you even on this post? criticizing a man you don't even know,you didn't order a bat.
how could you even say it's close to blasphemy.a believer knows what blasphemy means-- not even close! many believers dedicate there homes and businesses to the LORD. my brother dedicated his deisel repair shop to HIM on the day he opened. i've dedicated my home to the KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS. many,many believers do."for we walk by faith,not by sight,sayeth the LORD". he is a good and honorable man,give him a chance.
Aug. 4, 2012
Pricer
Men's 50
616 posts
Pitcher55, there is a difference from dedicating something and naming it after someone. Your defending someone who don't seem to want to defend himself! For me this is not even relevant anylonger. What bat company?
Aug. 4, 2012
Pull My Finger
68 posts
preacher55
Where is the bat factory?
Have the bats been tested and approved?
When will the bats be delivered?
When will the bats become available to the public?
Define "Coming Soon".
Aug. 4, 2012
Bubble Gum
63 posts
Why do I get the impression this guy gets all mushy when he sees a cloud formation or some other imaginary image?
Aug. 4, 2012
birdie
Men's 60
671 posts
I paid 198.00 on March 17th 2011. It is coming soon. Thanks Harry
Aug. 4, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
It is coming soon? define soon! LOL
Aug. 4, 2012
Pull My Finger
68 posts
If the bat is "Coming Soon", then why can't I place an order?
Aug. 4, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Seens as thought ED, aka surf88, is the only one who has seen one on these wonder bats and actually 'visited a 'plant'. But seeing \ holding only one prototype is strange in a factory setting. Didn't get to hit it either, and there was one ball mark it seems shown in one video. Still no assn stamps either. But then those can be stuck on with no validity anyway as has been done with many bats out there.

Seems strange that he has not said anything else about this, but perhaps it's in hopes of becoming a rep for the invisible bat.
Wonder if ya joined a cult, where all this is is taking place within. Formable Secrecy, promises broken and hidden locations all under they guise of religion as it were, sure is strange.
Coming soon,, . I hope the buyers live that long.

I still think its a Decker Jump bat re-painted. But they break like the U-2, easily.
Come on Ed tell us what you actually saw and where.
Aug. 4, 2012
0
48 posts

preacher55

When you talked to GSC, did they give you any information that we don't already know?

Or did you get just a lot of words?

What did you talk about?






Aug. 6, 2012
pitcher55
Men's 55
130 posts
yes, i ordered and paid for a veteran bat in october of '09. it was shipped to me in january '10. it was made in china, a total dud. i hit 2 buckets off a tee, and sent it back. i was dealing with the previous owner,who told me when theygot the new factory up and running in south carolina, he would send me one of those.about 2 years went by,then steve bought the company. i was wrong on a previous post, i did not email him, i left steve a phone msg. twice around may and june.each time,he phoned me the next day.some things he shared with me,i have not, nor will i repeat. it is his business if he feels the need to share with anyone else. i will only say, that the production end need some unforseen work.
wallmart has a store in my town,and plans on building a super wallmart across the street. it was projected to open dec.'10. issues kept coming up,like drainage,rebuilding the intersection and so on.they will build it i'm sure,but things unforseen happen, even in our lives. steve is not to blame for bats ordered 2 or 3 years ago, he hasn't owned the company that long.
Aug. 6, 2012
Marv19
Men's 60
424 posts
Let's put some facts into the mix here before this becomes more of an urban legend than it already is. I have no dog in this hunt now but the fact is our association was involved as a potential (potential is the operative word) dealer and or regional sales position with GSA bats from the very beginning three years ago this October. As time went on Bill confided to me that he was in need of capitol or a money partner. I personally was the one that introduced Steve McKinley to Bill Gately. I'd have to go back to some old emails but that union with Bill and Steve took place at least two years ago. After that I was only getting information from Bill. Steve was involved in manufacturing and Bill was in sales and R&D. I was only interested in the sales of the product. If anyone wants to discuss this with me I will be glad to anytime but not here. This forum is not the proper place.
Aug. 7, 2012
?
75 posts

Does anybody recall DeMarini or Miken having this much mystery, broken promises and start up problems?

Aug. 23, 2012
1billyd
28 posts
Sure has been quiet, anybody hear anything new?
Aug. 23, 2012
ChiPrimeMarty
Men's 55
65 posts
I sent Steve an email on July 31 asking about the bat promised to me, and have not received a reply. I bought the original white Veteran shortly after it came out, then took Gately up on his $99 offer for the 2011 GBA. I paid for that bat in September 2010 and have yet to receive that or the new Core bat Steve said would be ready in May of this year.

I've talked to Steve a few times on the phone and he sounds like a stand-up guy with a fairly detailed story about production delays caused by difficulty in hiring/keeping employees, but with so many people looking for jobs these days that story sounds a little thin.

Even thinner is the explanation that the thousands of bats he says have already been ordered are delaying the delivery of bats to everyone. Based on the skepticism of Senior players in this forum, I find it hard to believe more than a handful (if any) would place an order without seeing an actual bat first (not just pictures in a web site).

If they really are going to produce and sell bats, you'd think they would be communicating regularly with concrete details and realistic expectations. This is no way to do business.

Despite naming the venture God's Sports Company (which I find a bit presumptuous) I have strong doubts this on the level. I just can't figure out why Steve would bother keeping up the ruse for so long.
Aug. 23, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
why not name the invisible bat after the invisible man... Makes perfect sense to me! ;)
Aug. 24, 2012
Fabe
Men's 50
200 posts
Guys sad to say had some good deals with Gates, but not willing to get caught up with the wait! Time to move on...Ive been having fun swingn the Combat Ambush...Aloha, Fabe
Aug. 24, 2012
0
48 posts


Another month will "SOON" be ending.

OF COURSE.....

NO BAT....

AND STILL WAITING FOR THAT DEFINITION OF "SOON"!


JUST MORE MEANINGLESS TALK!

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.


And the band played on!







Aug. 24, 2012
AndyC
9 posts
I would Like to order one of these bats to show I beleive in this company. How do I do it? If a man dedicates his company to God he has to be honest and I would like to support him.
Aug. 24, 2012
Bubble Gum
63 posts
AndyC

Have you read any of the posts above?

Go to the GSC web site and you will find out that the bats are "Coming Soon" as they have been for the last few years.

What kind of company DOES NOT take purchase orders?

What kind of company DOES NOT advertise?

What kind of company makes promises, like delivery in May and doesn't deliver?

What kind of company only uses a PO Box for a mailing address?



Aug. 24, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Best thing GSC could do now is post some info periodically to update everyone... Bet it would make all the difference in the world.. I'm sure Steve has the best intentions, but the vagueness, in his post only leave all of us wondering...IF GSC feels it is coming out in two years, just say it! Coming soon, like in a cosmic sense?
Aug. 24, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
It's a "top...less secret" complex ,where you have to sign a non disclosure agreement if you see or step into the complex. Err post office mail box building mail drop... ha ha.

Say they do that, a good bet would be that time line would also pass again, with NOTHING... but you never know do ya.

2 years is not soon. They should have also given a time frame back in 2009. Gee 3 years ago.

Integrity... Oh yes. ... NOT
Aug. 24, 2012
Bubble Gum
63 posts

From where I come from, business that do business like this are really fronts for the (Insert 3 letter word here)!

Maybe...
Is GSC really Godfathers Sports Company??


Aug. 24, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Taits, you cannot blame Steve for 09... only on what has happened after he took over fyi
Aug. 24, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Swing for....,
I don't need to do that. It is all about what has transpired back then and up until now. Which is essentially, NOTHING. That is on him.
Whoops, sorry, I can not disclose anything... ever.... Bull pucky.

So which district you in, in old SF. Used to live there. Avenues. Say Hi to Joe. Known him sine 98 or so.
Aug. 24, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
AndyC............please find a more worthy recipient for your donation. Haiti is going to need funds after Isaac goes through there.
Aug. 24, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Actually, they are always in need of funds.
Aug. 25, 2012
Clean Up
39 posts
Gum

A business that operates like GSC could be a front for the government or organized crime?

Interesting theory!




Aug. 25, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
Off of Monterey Blvd.. Monterey Hts near St Francis Woods!
Aug. 25, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
I will say hello... I hit with Joe a couple of times a week and play in league with Joe.. He's amazing at 65 can hit out there with anyone still!
Aug. 25, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Yea, 'laundering'.,. They get the money for a 'product' but that never comes to pass, the money seems to disappear.
Heck, who knows maybe sometime it the future like 2020 or something they will come out with a few thousand, first run bats and then they can say... told you it would be soon.
Showing only ONE BAT in the video is strange enough. But maybe that top secret manufacturing facility is stocked to the rafters by now for release , ha ha, soon I think was said.
Heck, we or at least I am here having fun with concerns about what I think is a 3 year old scam. Not good for anyone interested in new technology, regarding bats.
Maybe I'll be shown the light of day as it were with a actual bat and more info released about the processes for the last 3 years. So be it
Never should have come this far, for so long, that's for sure.
Aug. 25, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
At least you have a couple parks near by. I think Joe is in mid city. He has always been quite the utility guy. Can play any position, 50>65 & hold his own.
I hope they don't use the park in down town SF. One can pretty much throw the ball out.
I lived on 15th near Geary, also 38th & Moraga. Moved to Pacifica for H.S.
I consider it a good city to be FROM, not in. Your in a better area i think.
Aug. 25, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
In Burlingame now.. Raising Kids! Weather is great here.. not moving back to the City,,, My work is mostly in the City so I get my fix of the City every week. Taits, Joe pitched against the East Bay Oldies in the NC States and held them to three runs... He's still got it!
Aug. 25, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
At Moffett field there used to be some great hitters that practiced there. I'm 4 hrs away so I couldn't make them. Might post an ad about it . Your about 20-30 mins away depending on bay shore traffic.
Aug. 25, 2012
swing for the fences
Men's 50
973 posts
yep.. Moffet is not that far but Orange park in SSF is closer. ;)
Aug. 25, 2012
AndyC
9 posts
I'm a little confused now-you say not to buy a GSC bat? I thought Pitcher55 and a couple others on here spoke with Steve the owner on the phone and they were good judges of character and could tell by those phone calls he was a good guy and was doing the LORDS work so he should be honest. Are you saying thats not true? I would like to show I believe and help his cause.
Aug. 25, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts
AndyC

Buying into the the company's name (which some believe is blasphemy) is simply "judging a book by it's cover".

But if you must....
Place your order...GOOD LUCK!

You'll need it!

PS: Keep us posted and updated on your bat order and bat delivery.




Aug. 25, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Andy,
Sure why not? Sent in your money lots of it, to the PO Box listed on their web site. With any stroke of luck maybe you might also get a bat in the years to come.
Pitcher55, Surf88 & whom ever else bought one are reputable guys, but they are still waiting 3 years later.
Video on site also looks and sounds impressive. BUT still no bat.
More like the work of 666 AKA Lucifer that the Lord. IMO.
Address is provided by another guy about half way up on this thread. Need a bat There are some good reps on this site for senior bats. Combat, Reebok, & yea Miken.
Shoot me an email for preferences.
Aug. 25, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Andy.......I guess the joke's on us. Just read your other posts, your're a Gary19 wannabe. Speaking of GOD is not a joking matter. You cannot be serious in that which you posted.
Aug. 25, 2012
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
G19....I'm talking about trying to draw us into an illogical conversation.:)
Aug. 26, 2012
AndyC
9 posts
Salio 2k,
Not looking for any conversation about anytyhing Illogical. It sounds like some people on here are willing to go to bat for Steve the owner of this company. It sounds like some people have ordered these bats. I watched the video and Steve says the bat will blow the other bats away. I also like that he says he is representing the LORD. But I'm becomming a little skeptikle because others on here are saying that maybe he's not going to do anything but take are money. well, mabe I am asking for more conversation but not about anything illogical.
Aug. 26, 2012
Clean Up
39 posts
AndyC

Quit with the useless, posting and yadda, yadda, yadda.

And just send a check for $200 to the following address:

God's Sports Company
520 Folly Road P-265, Charleston, SC 29412

ENOUGH ALREADY!





Aug. 26, 2012
Clean Up
39 posts

On second thought....

Send a check for $300 and a note telling them what weight and model bat you want.
Be sure to include your address.
That should cover any shipping and handling charges.

If the cost of the bat and shipping/handling is less than the $300 you sent, trust God's Sports Company to refund you the difference.


Sept. 4, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
845 posts
I just finished reading every post on this topic above. It took a long time and it was interesting to see the many different positions posted throughout the thread. I was contacted a year and a half ago by Bill Gates. He shared a great deal of excitement about his new bat. I listened to his presentation. I invited him to visit our hitting tent at Senior Worlds in Phoenix last year. He promised to stop by but did not. Later, he contacted me in an attempt to find investors for the company knowing I was in real estate. Last fall, he ordered one of our Reebok bats. It was charged to Steve McKinlay. Some time later, Steve contacted me to share that Bill was no longer a part of the company. He wanted to introduce himself. We have had good conversations, mostly about faith. Steve has helped me to cope with my prostate cancer battle. I believe Steve McKinlay is a man of faith. I believe all the posts in the world will not change that. Steve purchased 3 bats from me. Two of those bats were shipped in good faith prior to payment but payment WAS made. He could have stiffed me but did not. I believe Steve is not attempting to build his ego. I believe he wants to give credit to the final accomplishments to "God". I thank Steve for helping me to better understand what "Faith" truly is. I was not walking with faith and God is healing me.I keep reading and thinking about Phillipeans 4:13.
Ed Andrews
Sept. 4, 2012
Fabe
Men's 50
200 posts
Ed glad to hear God sent one of His warriors your way in time of need. Yet the questions n disappointments of the CORE bat is a reality...I purchased several bats n got a replacement for breakn one. With that I have choosen to move on to other products n let this company make it or fold on their own, that's the American way! Aloha, Fabe
Sept. 4, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Why do I have this feeling God has to have more significant things to be concerned with?
Sept. 4, 2012
Az Iz
30 posts
So...


Steve is one of thousands of Really Great Christian Guys....



that's NOT PRODUCING OR SELLING SOFTBALL BATS!


so what?





Sept. 4, 2012
Az Iz
30 posts
So...


Steve is one of thousands of Really Great Christian Guys....



that's NOT PRODUCING OR SELLING SOFTBALL BATS!


surf88
Where is that bat factory?





Sept. 4, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Ed,
You let the cat out of your bag, not I.
Re: I can do all this through him who gives me strength.
Are you he saying you can thereby take ones money, promise whatever and produce nothing all for HIM...
Give us a break here. Snake oil vendor, but no oil do you get either. 666 beast, imo
You took a bite of the apple signed a no disclosure paper... For shame Ed.
Sept. 4, 2012
CAPT D5
124 posts
Please,jJust produce and sell a good warrantied senior bat at a reasonable price This honor to God stuf, in relation to producing a bat seems a load. Give all your belongings and service to the poor if you wish to honor God, and you will be rewarded for eternity , That is what I believe Jesus asked. Or you can send some money to a tv evangelists and you can be told its ok to be greedy. SORRY, believe what you want, just tired of hearing the self ish sounding use of religion. I have decided I would rather buy a non warrantied bat that comes free of using God in its promotion. None of us are perfect, religion helps many people, it is just too often misused. No disrespect intended, just expressing a feeling. I truely wish the best to all involved with GSC.
Sept. 5, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
845 posts
Iz: South Carolina.
Taits: Your ill will response is out of line, in my view.
Fabe: Understod.
Sept. 5, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
With all of the self-inflicted controversy over this bat, and all of the other equally-as-good if not better bats already on the market, why does anyone continue to care about this one?
Sept. 5, 2012
GSWP001
Men's 60
70 posts
Gary19. Well said. It's time to let it go.
Sept. 5, 2012
?
75 posts
You guys got that right!

WAY MORE WORDS THAN SWINGS....

THE BAT HAS NOT AND DOES NOT EXIST!

LET THE BAT AND TALK ABOUT THE BAT REST IN PEACE!

Let this worn out thread to fade away...


Sept. 5, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Am I correct that there are guys who have already paid money for this bat sight-unseen and are still waiting for it?

You would think guys this age would have learned....:(
Sept. 5, 2012
5ToolsinOhio
Men's 50
160 posts
Repeat19, Good marketing, a great salesman could get anyone ambushed.
Sept. 5, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
No, not really.
Sept. 5, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
Snake oil salesmen... hiss, hiss, slither away,,.... lol

This posted on their web site for this weekend in TX....

1 month away from the FCA God&Country games. Come out to a great event and hang with some great people. See you in TX @fcanews @jfinch27
August 29th, 2012 @ 8:20 AM

So maybe someone going to what ever event it is will see something and pass it on to here.
Sept. 5, 2012
AndyC
9 posts
I couldn't find anyone on here that has known Steve for a long period of time and is vouching for him. It seems to be only people that barely know him that are standing up for him. Also him or his salesman don't seem to be on here anymore. I know cleanup told me to send him a check but I was looking for more people to vouch for him first. So I bought an ambush instead and it hits well. Plus it haas a warranty.
Sept. 6, 2012
Full Monty
76 posts

surf88 claims the GSC bat factory is in South Carolina and was there "recently". (See above post/reply to Iz)

Does anybody recall surf88 taking that trip in the last several months?


Sept. 6, 2012
Full Monty
76 posts

surf88 claims the GSC bat factory is in South Carolina and was there "recently". (See above post/reply to Iz)

Does anybody recall surf88 taking that trip in the last several months?


Sept. 6, 2012
Shut Up & Pitch
52 posts

surf88
Earlier on this thread you didn't, couldn't or wouldn't reveal where the GSC Bat factory was, because of some disclosure. Now you claim is that the factory is in South Carolina, placing you there by your own words.

So why are telling us where the factory is at this time when you didn't do that before? Why the change?



Sept. 6, 2012
taits
Men's 65
4253 posts
This was from a 3n2 circular in Nov 2011 Scroll about 4 pages down you still see Bill G listed too.
plant in Charleston, SC ??
Another Smoke screen. you need whole thing to get to page but using link just goes to current gsc web site. Should raise en eye brow though given it was stated Bill is out of picture...-------

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:sB6QD-m3m3EJ:nfca.org/web_docs/convention/11/11exhibitorpromos/2011%2520webpromo.docx+GSC,+south+carolina+bat+factory&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiw-dd0PiZI2acyVBn9b24xb4HaFoxo5etQEv0S8SNBGuZ_ryzBpRqEvnShOzku18jo5w7X7U9qh_-uNJpcv-2ClSOom_y5_Uz2r2NLU_9XHgR52_99vtnfLimF0pv6qoO5NkOC&sig=AHIEtbRDUqhGtNwHB8IDQ8GDknvkeaxzjQ
Sept. 6, 2012
surf88
Men's 60
845 posts
Because the address is now and has been for some time posted on their website.
Sept. 6, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
Now I am going to sound like a Communist, but shouldn't this thread be closed?
Sept. 6, 2012
Dukes
7 posts
There are so many good bats out there now, it don't make a difference what you swing but more it is how you swing.
Sept. 6, 2012
Gary19
Men's 50
2617 posts
McEnroe once said, "it isn't the racket".
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